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Doesn't look like the baseball will prioritize going to college any time soon.
Posted on 6/6/13 at 11:10 am
Posted on 6/6/13 at 11:10 am
While reading some draft reports about Stanek, I ran across a couple of statements that surprised me.
Players that go to college are actually hurting themselves in the MLB because they are "aging" while not being trained by farm teams. Even more so for kids who want to stay and graduate. The fact that Stanek is an "old junior" actually hurts his draft stock and he's barely 21. Unless baseball starts changing their priorities, I don't see anything even close to college basketball happening in the near or far future for baseball. It's a shame because we'll never get to see the best talent coming out of high school going to college. So college baseball will always be slightly less quality than what it could be. It seems odd that the NCAA can be so up in arms about basketball being one and done, but continue to let baseball have kids stolen by the pros every single year.
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He's an old junior which may hurt him, and it won't help him at all next year as an older senior. He could raise his stock next year by showing better control which would give him a much better season and give the teams more confidence that he could stick as a starter or reach his ceiling. But, they won't pay him as much next year as a senior who is on the old side.
Players that go to college are actually hurting themselves in the MLB because they are "aging" while not being trained by farm teams. Even more so for kids who want to stay and graduate. The fact that Stanek is an "old junior" actually hurts his draft stock and he's barely 21. Unless baseball starts changing their priorities, I don't see anything even close to college basketball happening in the near or far future for baseball. It's a shame because we'll never get to see the best talent coming out of high school going to college. So college baseball will always be slightly less quality than what it could be. It seems odd that the NCAA can be so up in arms about basketball being one and done, but continue to let baseball have kids stolen by the pros every single year.
This post was edited on 6/6/13 at 11:14 am
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Posted on 6/6/13 at 11:11 am to Drewbie
he gone
Posted on 6/6/13 at 11:12 am to Drewbie
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It doesn't look like the MLB will prioritize going to college any time soon.
Cant think of a reason why they would.
Posted on 6/6/13 at 11:12 am to Drewbie
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Unless the MLB starts changing their priorities, I don't see anything even close to college basketball happening in the near or far future for baseball.
it never will, they have too many farm teams. Unlike the NFL/NBA which dont really have them. NBA DL is not a farm team, its where ex players go to die
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It seems odd that the NCAA can be so up in arms about basketball being one and done, but continue to let baseball have kids stolen by the pros every single year.
$$$$
This post was edited on 6/6/13 at 11:14 am
Posted on 6/6/13 at 11:14 am to LsuTool
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he gone
Posted on 6/6/13 at 11:14 am to Drewbie
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It freakin sucks. Why not let the colleges be the farms?
It freakin sucks. Why not let the colleges be the farms?
Posted on 6/6/13 at 11:16 am to Drewbie
It's hard to duplicate the farm team system.
Posted on 6/6/13 at 11:18 am to Drewbie
Too bad we'll never see the talent on the field that was available in the 1980s.
Posted on 6/6/13 at 11:19 am to TaxmanMSU
quote:Or at least the first step in the farms. I know there's a lot of money in the farm systems, but why not have kids play in college 1-2 years before going "pro"?
Why not let the colleges be the farms?
Posted on 6/6/13 at 11:19 am to Drewbie
who could blame a team for taking a younger prospect, who that know will be in their system, as opposed to a college Jr or Sr.
College baseball's exposure has grown in the last decade, but it's still a much watered down version of the game.
College baseball's exposure has grown in the last decade, but it's still a much watered down version of the game.
Posted on 6/6/13 at 11:19 am to TaxmanMSU
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Why not let the colleges be the farms
What kind of bats you guys using in starkville?
And as pointed out below, the call ups...also that pesky rule about paying players. (insert cam newton joke wherever)
This post was edited on 6/6/13 at 11:21 am
Posted on 6/6/13 at 11:19 am to Drewbie
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Or at least the first step in the farms. I know there's a lot of money in the farm systems, but why not have kids play in college 1-2 years before going "pro"?
They can not monitor them or lock them into a contract.
Posted on 6/6/13 at 11:20 am to TaxmanMSU
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It freakin sucks. Why not let the colleges be the farms?
Serious? Would you have a problem if the Cardinals called up Renfroe mid season?
Posted on 6/6/13 at 11:20 am to lowspark12
quote:Only because the MLB is allowed to suck the top talent out of high school every single year. If that was stopped, the quality of college baseball would significantly increase.
but it's still a much watered down version of the game.
Posted on 6/6/13 at 11:21 am to TaxmanMSU
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It freakin sucks. Why not let the colleges be the farms?
this would hurt the MLB product... I realize for selfish reasons, wanting to see the best players in college for three or four years... but the minor league system is a better developer of talent than a college system would be (especially if aluminum bats were still used).
Posted on 6/6/13 at 11:21 am to Drewbie
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If that was stopped, the quality of college baseball would significantly increase
and probably decrease the quality of MLB. No thanks.
Posted on 6/6/13 at 11:23 am to TaxmanMSU
Stanek tends to lose focus but should be something MLB can fix
As dominant as he was against LSU in sec tourney, he totally lost it one inning, I think LSU had bases loaded and he ended up getting out of it, but how can you be so dominant and then all of a sudden lose it like that. He did same thing in regional.
As dominant as he was against LSU in sec tourney, he totally lost it one inning, I think LSU had bases loaded and he ended up getting out of it, but how can you be so dominant and then all of a sudden lose it like that. He did same thing in regional.
Posted on 6/6/13 at 11:27 am to piggidyphish
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and probably decrease the quality of MLB
Seriously? Having the young guys practice MORE before going to the majors would make the MLB less quality?
Posted on 6/6/13 at 11:30 am to Drewbie
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Seriously
absolutlely, why wouldn't I be?
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Having the young guys practice MORE before going to the majors would make the MLB less quality
You mean instead of playing by the big clubs philosophy with constant oversight by player development coaches and the GM and instead haivng all that future major league talent spread out over numerous different colleges going to class and playing with different equipment.
So yea..i don't have an emoticon to reply with so i'll trust that being pragmatic works.
Or do you not think they practice in the minors? or at spring trainning?
This post was edited on 6/6/13 at 11:31 am
Posted on 6/6/13 at 11:32 am to lowspark12
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this would hurt the MLB product... I realize for selfish reasons, wanting to see the best players in college for three or four years... but the minor league system is a better developer of talent than a college system would be (especially if aluminum bats were still used).
Most of the guys who go to College still spend time in the Minors before being called up.
The minor league system is good for teams to see if they will be able to make it or not, getting the player out of HS means they will be able to make this call in the same amount of time, or so, that the player would otherwise have been in college playing. The difference? Their coaching staffs are working on development and coaching the player while reporting all concerns directly to the management of the big league club, they do not have this access to information with college coaches.
It is cheaper for the clubs to sign a kid out of HS, let him bounce around in the minors for a while then make the call if he will ever make it, keep him or cut him loose and pay for his college.
The difference could be years on the big league roster. Using Stanek as an example, if he signed out of HS and developed to his potential, he could have been pitching for a big league squad lets say last year and this year, 20 and 21 years of age, assuming it takes him sometime to adjust to the ball on the minor league level, the same team could be looking at him being 22-24 before he makes to the bigs, if he does. That is a difference of 3-4 years of having a young arm on your roster, big deal for a MLB team.
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