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re: Does LSU win 8 games if Hill is booted?

Posted on 5/19/13 at 11:58 am to
Posted by Elleshoe
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Posted on 5/19/13 at 11:58 am to
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LSU hasn't had a consistent running back since Harvey Williams.


frick, you are stupid.




Posted by Elleshoe
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Posted on 5/19/13 at 11:59 am to
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why is "religiously" spelling wrong under your name?



It comes from this beauty of a failed rant.

Religiously (Big Word)
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I figured it was from something
Posted by RockyMtnTigerWDE
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Posted on 5/19/13 at 12:00 pm to
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LSU hasn't had a consistent running back since Harvey Williams.


Ummmmmmmm me thinks you are wrong.
Posted by dbt_Geaux_Tigers_196
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Member since Mar 2012
25235 posts
Posted on 5/19/13 at 12:02 pm to
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Garfield

Who knows how things will pan out but if I had to make a forecast I would say, based on the following:
1. Zach isn't very mobile
2. He doesn't have the best pocket presence
3. Has a rocket arm

that:
1. Odell and Jarvis will play slot, have a lot of quick routes, and get the ball a lot. The safeties will crowd but Zach can throw the ball a mile, but not particularly accurate. If he can get the D to repect the deep throw enough, the slots and TE should do well this year. Of course if there is a rash of OL injuries like last year, all bets are off.
2. I have a feeling Cam will feature a single back O...and we have the RB's to do this. The FB spot, I think, will be the one spot to suffer in Cameron's O.

Again, just one fans opinion...who knows.
Posted by DBeaux225
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2012
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Posted on 5/19/13 at 12:23 pm to
If you go back to 2011, Beckham most of his damage from the slot while Randle was our deep threat. OBJ and Landry will be back at the positions where they belong while newcomers Leslie, Peterson, and Dural will be our deep threats. Don't forget about Kadron Boone.
Posted by CP3LSU25
Louisiana
Member since Feb 2009
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Posted on 5/19/13 at 12:26 pm to
Some idiots have floated to the sec rant. Mother of god. If we lose hill and blue we would still win 8 or more games
Posted by MetArl15
Washington, DC
Member since Apr 2007
13585 posts
Posted on 5/19/13 at 12:26 pm to
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LSU hasn't had a consistent running back since Harvey Williams.
Kevin Faulk.
Posted by LukeSidewalker
Mobile, Alabama
Member since Dec 2012
8417 posts
Posted on 5/19/13 at 12:27 pm to
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Kevin Faulk.


Beast.
Posted by ukraine_rebel
North Mississippi
Member since Oct 2012
3896 posts
Posted on 5/19/13 at 12:27 pm to
Will give you Kevin Faulk, he was good.

Toefield was ok, missed a year and didn't start all of his games as a senior, so i'm not sold.

ETA: Not saying LSU hasn't had talented running backs, the position just seems to be snake bitten. Cecil the Diesel, Alley Broussard, James Jacquet, Keiland Williams, Justin Vincent, and on and on.
This post was edited on 5/19/13 at 12:33 pm
Posted by TTsTowel
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Posted on 5/19/13 at 12:30 pm to
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Some idiots have floated to the sec rant.
quote:

CP3LSU25
I spy one right here.
Posted by CP3LSU25
Louisiana
Member since Feb 2009
52570 posts
Posted on 5/19/13 at 12:33 pm to
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so i'm not sold


No one really cares.
Posted by CP3LSU25
Louisiana
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Posted on 5/19/13 at 12:34 pm to
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TTsTowel
Posted by cas4t
Member since Jan 2010
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Posted on 5/19/13 at 12:36 pm to
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Will give you Kevin Faulk, he was good.

You don't say? No shite Sherlock.

You also might want to go check that one guy that's playing for the Patriots.

Also Jacob Hester was damn good while at LSU.
Posted by dbt_Geaux_Tigers_196
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Member since Mar 2012
25235 posts
Posted on 5/19/13 at 12:39 pm to
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Don't forget about Kadron Boone.

No doubt. It's a damn shame with all the speed we have. Well, hopefully Coach Cameron can put it to use, we'll see.
Posted by Draconian Sanctions
Markey's bar
Member since Oct 2008
88509 posts
Posted on 5/19/13 at 12:39 pm to
Probably won't win 6 with or without him.

LSU fans here are delusional, they lost 17 starters and everyone else brings back their whole team. LSU also doesn't have any development so their players get worse not better while the rest of the league is improving.

3-8 at best IMO
Posted by CamdenTiger
Member since Aug 2009
65897 posts
Posted on 5/19/13 at 12:41 pm to
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quote:Will give you Kevin Faulk, he was good. You don't say? No shite Sherlock. You also might want to go check that one guy that's playing for the Patriots. Also Jacob Hester was damn good while at LSU.



No doubt..Thats almost the stupidest thing ever said, about LSU not having good RB's... Now if he would have said the passing game has carried LSU, that would have won some award...
Posted by Garfield
Kew Gardens
Member since Dec 2011
7817 posts
Posted on 5/19/13 at 12:42 pm to
quote:

Who knows how things will pan out but if I had to make a forecast I would say, based on the following:
1. Zach isn't very mobile
2. He doesn't have the best pocket presence
3. Has a rocket arm

that:
1. Odell and Jarvis will play slot, have a lot of quick routes, and get the ball a lot. The safeties will crowd but Zach can throw the ball a mile, but not particularly accurate. If he can get the D to repect the deep throw enough, the slots and TE should do well this year. Of course if there is a rash of OL injuries like last year, all bets are off.
2. I have a feeling Cam will feature a single back O...and we have the RB's to do this. The FB spot, I think, will be the one spot to suffer in Cameron's O.

Again, just one fans opinion...who knows.



Sounds right to me. I haven't heard anyone say it before, but I think you are right - the one LSU player who probably should not have been happy with the hire was Copeland.

Dude is definitely a beast, but I think he can be a crutch too when your QB doesn't have great accuracy but a strong arm (the defense can compress the field with one less WR/TE). I think LSU will be more efficient with Mett in single back sets.

Copeland maybe should have tested the NFL waters, even as a free agent. Can't imagine you want to many miles on your brain as a battering ram FB.

There is a contra argument to my crutch analysis though. I remember last year in the Bama/LSU game, we had to keep CJ off the field for the most part and put in our bigger thumper linebackers (Trey and Nico) because CJ could not handle Copeland (I remember one play where Copeland just demolished CJ) and this allowed for better match-ups in your passing game with the slower linebackers on the field.

Although much of this was off-set by Copeland's personal foul.
Posted by dbt_Geaux_Tigers_196
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Member since Mar 2012
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Posted on 5/19/13 at 12:47 pm to
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Although much of this was off-set by Copeland's personal foul.


Yeah, I love the FB position but the game has changed, just the way of it. A FB can make a living at next level but he has to pass block well, pick up blitzes well and run good swing routes , in addition to run.
Posted by ukraine_rebel
North Mississippi
Member since Oct 2012
3896 posts
Posted on 5/19/13 at 12:51 pm to
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Also Jacob Hester was damn good while at LSU.


He had one really good season as a senior, average Junior season (at best), and was a minor role player before that.

Again not saying they haven't had talent, they just have the record for most one hit wonders, which goes back to the OP on whether or not they can win. I think Hill will be done and some other random guy will enter and have a better than average season that will help carry the load.
Posted by dbt_Geaux_Tigers_196
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Member since Mar 2012
25235 posts
Posted on 5/19/13 at 12:53 pm to
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