re: Nation's top recruit Da'Shawn Hand gives thoughts on Alabama, Auburn, SCe

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You're right, my bad. Spurrier has proven time and time again that when he goes head-to-head against Saban on the recruiting trail, he wins the majority of the time.

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I was actually going to disagree with you there, until I thought about it. I remembered the "Top 3 schools" battles for Clowney, Gilmore, Mitch and then I tried to remember who Bama got that we were heavily going after...but I couldn't recall any. Probably some Bama poster knows, but I can't recall a player who we made it to their "final 3" and they ended up going to Bama.

Lol at Carolina fans saying Spurrier out recruits Saban because they got Clowney and Gilmore.

Bama has had the number 1 class every year for 73782653 years it seems. They get guys you don't even have a prayer of.

I think Carolina has the best chance outside of VT at this point, but to say Spurrier > Saban because of two gift-wrapped Rock Hill kids is literally moronic.

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Probably some Bama poster knows, but I can't recall a player who we made it to their "final 3" and they ended up going to Bama.

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From South Carolina? John Fulton and Chris Bonds are the only guys we've signed from South Carolina under Nick Saban.

I was about to post that. And he's from Columbia to boot.

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I think you're missing a big part of the context. Nobody said that SC out-recruits Bama, anyone can look at any of the recruiting rankings over the past 5 years and see that. However, when we are talking specifically about the players where it came down to USC, Bama and a 3rd school in the mix...(Clowney, Gilmore, Mitch), USC did get those recruits.

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You don't think KEEPING guys like Clowney and Gilmore is more of what you should do as opposed to "beating" Bama for a recruit? They're from fvcking Rock Hill. If Carolina didn't get them it'd be embarrassing.

Let's take the opposite, when is the last time South Carolina was able to make it as a finalist for a kid from Bama? You don't even venture in there because you know Bama will pimp slap you back to earth.

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I was about to post that. And he's from Columbia to boot.

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Christian's recruiting got messed up when his dad went prima-donna in the media and also made up stories about Alshon getting into fights in 5 Points. This was over a year ago and we haven't seriously pursued him since BAW said he was going to commit to us at the bowl game.

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but to say Spurrier > Saban because of two gift-wrapped Rock Hill kids is literally moronic.

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Here's what's fricking moronic.

You being here on an SEC Board talking SEC recruiting.

Bama fan who acted all butthurt when I made the statement that Saban and Spurrier cancel each other out.

My reply was in response to that.

Who have the two recruited against one another? I dunno, don't care either, I was just making an aprpos response the one the Bama fan made immediately after I stated they cancelled one another out.

Then again, let me think ... Brandon Shell, Phillip Dukes, one of the Dixon Brothers, Marcus Lattimore, Stephon Gillmore, Jadeveon Clowney - all of them from SC yes, but I could give a rat's arse. I didn't qualify my statement by limiting it to states. I simple said, they cancel one another out ... and they do on those that they go against one another. It's about even. Can we split hairs? Sure we can, and apparently we are - but I don't care, it's nonsense.

I like our chances with Hand. Deke Adams has been recruiting Hand since he was a sophomore in High School and we're in his Top 3 or 4. I'll take those odds. Plus I like the fact that he talks regularly with Clowney. I think that alone is worth something.

Eta: Oh, and don't tell me Saban was not after every one of those kids I listed above because he had late, in home, visits with all of them. And Rumpf had numerous visits with some of them before Spurrier ever went in.

Here are the players, and where they are from, off of the last class we just signed in February, who had offers from both SC and Bama:

Larenz Bryant - LB - Charlotte, NC
Connor Mitch - QB - Raleigh, NC
DJ Park - OT - Dillon, SC (Bama's Chris Rumpf withdrew offer after he committed early to SC, and then played all butthurt claiming he never offered DJ even though DJ was sitting on 44 offers from everyone at the time.)

So far this year, for the 2014 class ...

Bryson Allen-Williams - LB - Ellenwood, GA


And Bama and SC are both after another eight or nine prospects that have both of them listed in their final four or five as we sit right now - so we'll eventually see how that shakes-out.

One of those four listed above is from SC.

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Spurrier's philosophy is to go after good players that want to be here

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This, bama never really had a great shot with all of those players because they all really wanted to be at usc. It would be like usc getting milliner, julio or kirkpatrick from bama.