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Posted on 5/9/13 at 8:00 pm to SwayzeBalla
Posted on 5/9/13 at 8:00 pm to SwayzeBalla
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It's a conspiracy against State. I read about it.
Exactly like the Scout conspiracy against Ole Miss...
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Posted on 5/9/13 at 8:01 pm to engie
Link?
ETA: I've never made that claim. I prefer scout to rivals.
ETA: I've never made that claim. I prefer scout to rivals.
This post was edited on 5/9/13 at 8:03 pm
Posted on 5/9/13 at 8:14 pm to SwayzeBalla
I didn't say you made that claim -- but a significant portion of your fanbase believes it.
I think Scout halfass scouts MS -- and they generally overrate those players. And Rivals halfass scouts MS -- and they generally underrate those players. This results in the skew between our rankings(mostly MS kids -- favoring scout) and your rankings(many more OOS kids -- favoring rivals)..
When it comes to player evaluations, I look at 24/7 -- and the rest of them just for supporting evidence... At least on the MS kids. When you've got regional and national analysts at every summer camp at both OM and MSU, and games every Friday, you get a much better actual evaluation of those players. That's why they were 4-5 months ahead of everybody else on the Chris Jones bandwagon...
I think Scout halfass scouts MS -- and they generally overrate those players. And Rivals halfass scouts MS -- and they generally underrate those players. This results in the skew between our rankings(mostly MS kids -- favoring scout) and your rankings(many more OOS kids -- favoring rivals)..
When it comes to player evaluations, I look at 24/7 -- and the rest of them just for supporting evidence... At least on the MS kids. When you've got regional and national analysts at every summer camp at both OM and MSU, and games every Friday, you get a much better actual evaluation of those players. That's why they were 4-5 months ahead of everybody else on the Chris Jones bandwagon...
This post was edited on 5/9/13 at 8:19 pm
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Posted on 5/9/13 at 8:28 pm to engie
If State has so many elite running backs, how come they're never great at running the ball sans an option quarterback?
ETA: I'll give you Norwood. Boobie had 2 or 3 decent games. No more than Brandon Bolden
ETA: I'll give you Norwood. Boobie had 2 or 3 decent games. No more than Brandon Bolden
This post was edited on 5/9/13 at 8:50 pm
Posted on 5/9/13 at 8:48 pm to engie
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Exactly like the Scout conspiracy against Ole Miss...
Well there's an actual explanation to Scout's rankings favoring State. Steve Robertson, who you know is a crazy State homer has the power to rank players in his region. He holds one of the highest positions at scout in terms of recruiting rankings. What is your explanation, not conspiracy, for Rivals dislike for MSU?
This post was edited on 5/9/13 at 8:50 pm
Posted on 5/9/13 at 8:49 pm to Whereisomaha
HAF
Posted on 5/9/13 at 8:50 pm to engie
Gotcha
Posted on 5/9/13 at 8:53 pm to engie
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I think Scout halfass scouts MS -- and they generally overrate those players. And Rivals halfass scouts MS -- and they generally underrate those players. This results in the skew between our rankings(mostly MS kids -- favoring scout) and your rankings(many more OOS kids -- favoring rivals)..
I think you're right. Hmmmm
Posted on 5/9/13 at 9:01 pm to sorantable
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If State has so many elite running backs, how come they're never great at running the ball sans an option quarterback?
Just how young are you?
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ETA: I'll give you Norwood. Boobie had 2 or 3 decent games. No more than Brandon Bolden
2 or 3 decent games? Boobie had 4k rushing yards over 4 years on 3 shittastic offenses ranked below #100 where he was the only weapon. He routinely gained tough yards against elite defenses when they ALL knew it was coming.
You are obviously too young to remember Griffith, JJ, McKinley, and Keffer -- so no need in me even bringing them up...
Posted on 5/9/13 at 9:04 pm to engie
I can't recall a State running back having a career that could rival an actual elite back like Deuce McAllister.
State has had serviceable running backs over the years but to say they've had elite running backs is silly.
State has had serviceable running backs over the years but to say they've had elite running backs is silly.
Posted on 5/9/13 at 9:07 pm to sorantable
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Boobie had 2 or 3 decent games. No more than Brandon Bolden
Posted on 5/9/13 at 9:07 pm to Hardy_Har
I thought you guys would like that
Posted on 5/9/13 at 9:09 pm to sorantable
It was pure premium unleaded no ethenol fuel.
This post was edited on 5/9/13 at 9:10 pm
Posted on 5/9/13 at 9:12 pm to Hardy_Har
Posted on 5/9/13 at 9:14 pm to sorantable
That was too easy
Posted on 5/9/13 at 9:19 pm to SwayzeBalla
Hair-trigger
Posted on 5/9/13 at 9:29 pm to sorantable
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I can't recall a State running back having a career that could rival an actual elite back like Deuce McAllister.
Deuce wasn't even the best RB in this state during his own career. An average of 800 yards/season is supposed to be what in college? Average for the past 20 years at MSU -- that's what...
Deuce:
And for comparison here is JJ:
Here is Norwood:
Here is Dixon:
Feel free to point out to me in what way Deuce was superior as a collegiate player...
This post was edited on 5/9/13 at 9:39 pm
Posted on 5/9/13 at 9:31 pm to engie
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Deuce wasn't even the best RB in the state during his own career.
How old are you? Deuce is the best RB to come through MS since Walter Payton.
Posted on 5/9/13 at 9:37 pm to sorantable
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How old are you? Deuce is the best RB to come through MS since Walter Payton.
Look up a post and explain the actual statistics to me then.
He played at Ole Miss!!1!1 Best EVARRRR!!1!1
Let me guess -- Mike Wallace is the best receiver in MS since Rice as well...am I right?
This post was edited on 5/9/13 at 9:42 pm
Posted on 5/9/13 at 9:41 pm to engie
quote:I'm talking about skill and ability. Stats don't always tell the whole story.
Look up a post and explain the actual statistics to me then...
quote:I'm not prepared to go here but can you name a better one? Oh, and Eric Moulds was shite.
Let me guess -- Mike Wallace is the best receiver in MS since Rice as well...am I right?
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