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re: Matthew Thomas is seeking release from his FSU scholarship

Posted on 5/6/13 at 3:02 pm to
Posted by Crowknowsbest
Member since May 2012
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Posted on 5/6/13 at 3:02 pm to
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If they can't change his mind, they'll grant him the release eventually. Question is which schools they'll permit

I think the standard would be to restrict transfer to all ACC schools, UF (in-state), and anybody on the schedule. It wouldn't be out of the question for them to also restrict UGA due to proximity (recruiting related) and USC due to potential tampering (which has been a rumor for a few weeks).
Posted by tylerdurden24
Member since Sep 2009
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Posted on 5/6/13 at 3:02 pm to
sounds like jarvis redux. make this shite happen!
Posted by sarc
Member since Mar 2011
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Posted on 5/6/13 at 3:04 pm to
He did but he had gone through spring training at UF IIRC. He requested a waiver to be eligible immediately but was denied
Posted by TreyAnastasio
Bitch I'm From Cleveland
Member since Dec 2010
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Posted on 5/6/13 at 3:05 pm to
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Didnt Auburn running back Mike Blakely have to sit out a year when he transferred? Isn't this a similar situation?


He enrolled. I know this because I have a Florida fan who bitches about paying for him to have surgery and rehab before transferring to AU.
Posted by TheOcean
#honeyfriedchicken
Member since Aug 2004
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Posted on 5/6/13 at 3:08 pm to
Not shocking. He wanted USC before signing day, his mom wanted FSU. Mom won out. Apparently his mom has been out of the Country for a while. There's going to be a meeting with her, the coach, and Matt when she comes back.

I doubt FSU is going to release him (if they can't come to an agreement).
Posted by TheOcean
#honeyfriedchicken
Member since Aug 2004
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Posted on 5/6/13 at 3:09 pm to
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sounds like jarvis redux. make this shite happen!


Matt wants to go to USC.
Posted by sarc
Member since Mar 2011
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Posted on 5/6/13 at 3:10 pm to
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I think the standard would be to restrict transfer to all ACC schools, UF (in-state), and anybody on the schedule. It wouldn't be out of the question for them to also restrict UGA due to proximity (recruiting related) and USC due to potential tampering (which has been a rumor for a few weeks).


Those type of additional restrictions have generated a lot of negative PR in some bball transfers recently. Especially if the player and his family are willing to go to the media and bitch about how unfair it is. My guess is they just restrict ACC teams and anyone on their schedule
Posted by TreyAnastasio
Bitch I'm From Cleveland
Member since Dec 2010
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Posted on 5/6/13 at 3:10 pm to
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I doubt FSU is going to release him


They will. They always do. Its not worth the negative press.
Posted by Crowknowsbest
Member since May 2012
26985 posts
Posted on 5/6/13 at 3:10 pm to
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I doubt FSU is going to release him (if they can't come to an agreement).

I would think they would release him just to save face. You don't want to look like the big bad football program that won't let a kid play for 2 years. Public opinion won't look at that positively.
Posted by TheOcean
#honeyfriedchicken
Member since Aug 2004
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Posted on 5/6/13 at 3:11 pm to
What negative press? He signed a contract and wants to breach?

My prediction is that this will all work out in the end. Again, I doubt FSU is going to let him off the hook.
Posted by scrooster
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Member since Jul 2012
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Posted on 5/6/13 at 3:12 pm to
Whether Thomas meant USC to be USCe or USCw I do not believe he should be released from his Letter unless he agrees to transfer directly to USCe, since we need LBs.

Even if he did want to transfer to USCe, I do not think we have the scholly to give from last year ... oh wait, yes we do.

If he insists on going to Georgia then I am afraid we are all going to need to rise-up and insist that not be allowed - that he needs to stick to his word and his commitment to FSU.
Posted by Mattyice22
Knoxville
Member since Apr 2013
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Posted on 5/6/13 at 3:12 pm to
If he gets it granted then more kids will think that they can do it.
Posted by Crowknowsbest
Member since May 2012
26985 posts
Posted on 5/6/13 at 3:13 pm to
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What negative press? He signed a contract and wants to breach?

It's not necessarily fair to the school but it is what it is. It will look bad if they don't release him and can't convince him to stay on his own accord.
Posted by sarc
Member since Mar 2011
9997 posts
Posted on 5/6/13 at 3:14 pm to
There's no denying FSU has the right to not release him. It's just not the smart play if he's determined to go elsewhere.
Posted by TreyAnastasio
Bitch I'm From Cleveland
Member since Dec 2010
46759 posts
Posted on 5/6/13 at 3:15 pm to
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Again, I doubt FSU is going to let him off the hook.


Find me 1 time where a school didnt give a kid his release.
Posted by TreyAnastasio
Bitch I'm From Cleveland
Member since Dec 2010
46759 posts
Posted on 5/6/13 at 3:15 pm to
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If he gets it granted then more kids will think that they can do it.


Kids transfer all the time. This will change nothing.
Posted by TheOcean
#honeyfriedchicken
Member since Aug 2004
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Posted on 5/6/13 at 3:16 pm to
How is it the smart play? Some schools are ok with it given certain circumstances. There is no indication that FSU would grant the release.

You sign a contract knowing what happens if there is a breach. That's the way it is. If he was determined to go elsewhere, he should have signed with USC.
Posted by Crowknowsbest
Member since May 2012
26985 posts
Posted on 5/6/13 at 3:16 pm to
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Whether Thomas meant USC to be USCe or USCw I do not believe he should be released from his Letter unless he agrees to transfer directly to USCe, since we need LBs.

Even if he did want to transfer to USCe, I do not think we have the scholly to give from last year ... oh wait, yes we do.

If he insists on going to Georgia then I am afraid we are all going to need to rise-up and insist that not be allowed - that he needs to stick to his word and his commitment to FSU.

Posted by CapstoneGrad06
Little Rock
Member since Nov 2008
73409 posts
Posted on 5/6/13 at 3:17 pm to
I mentioned this on the Alabama board, but does it not seem that even with some success, Jimbo can't keep coaches or players in Tallahassee. They had a lot of de-commits in the last recruiting class and saw a lot of staff turnover this past winter.
Posted by sarc
Member since Mar 2011
9997 posts
Posted on 5/6/13 at 3:18 pm to
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If he gets it granted then more kids will think that they can do it.


And if he doesn't get it granted, his case will be used by the growing player advocate movement that is attempting to modify the whole NLI system and transfer restrictions to be less restrictive on players
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