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re: Saban Publicly Supports 9 Game Schedule

Posted on 5/2/13 at 7:39 pm to
Posted by Bamatab
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Posted on 5/2/13 at 7:39 pm to
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I guess it could come to pass but it is a lousy solution IMO. Because it reduces those four major programs (UGA, UT, Bama, Auburn) to only playing the other opposite division opponents a couple times every 14 years


If you want LSU to play the other teams more, then I'm fine with that. But the teams that want to keep their rivalries shouldn't have give them up just because a few LSU fans, coaches, and administration don't think we should play them.
Posted by Dr RC
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Posted on 5/2/13 at 7:53 pm to
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If the SEC wants to expand they have to poach from teh Big 10 or a midmajor to get to 16. I'm not sure people are really excited about adding ECU or some team like that though


pretty sure the schools in the Big Ten have also signed a GOR.

If the SEC wants to expand anytime soon its going to have to look at schools like East Carolina and Cincinnati.
Posted by JustGetItRight
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Posted on 5/3/13 at 8:18 am to
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ETA: last year he was in favor. but I seem to recall him being opposed to it in the past


He started calling for it when the league expanded to 14 teams. From the start he's said a player should see each team in the league at least once.

Between the SEC network and the new 4 team playoff (which makes it far easier to get in with a loss or even two) you can book it that nine games is a done deal in 2014.
Posted by TeLeFaWx
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Posted on 5/3/13 at 8:25 am to
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Between the SEC network and the new 4 team playoff (which makes it far easier to get in with a loss or even two) you can book it that nine games is a done deal in 2014.


I think this as well. Win the SEC and you're almost guaranteed a spot. One or two losses be damned.
Posted by GumBro Jackson
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Posted on 5/3/13 at 8:32 am to
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He started calling for it when the league expanded to 14 teams. From the start he's said a player should see each team in the league at least once.


I completely agree with this. What is the point of being in the same conference with a school if you never even play them in football the entire time you are a player/student?
Posted by TigerJeff
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Posted on 5/3/13 at 8:34 am to
I'm sure the SEC scheduling guys will simplify things and give Ala. permanent East opponents: TN, KY, and Vandy, and give LSU UGA, FL and SC. Makes sense.
Posted by TeLeFaWx
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Posted on 5/3/13 at 8:35 am to
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I completely agree with this. What is the point of being in the same conference with a school if you never even play them in football the entire time you are a player/student?


Would you put that at a higher priority than the Deep South's Oldest Rivalry? Because if you eliminate that on a permanent basis at least, you could see every team with an 8 game schedule.
Posted by GumBro Jackson
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Posted on 5/3/13 at 9:00 am to
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Would you put that at a higher priority than the Deep South's Oldest Rivalry? Because if you eliminate that on a permanent basis at least, you could see every team with an 8 game schedule.


Or you could go to a nine game schedule, keep the permanent rivalries, and still see the other teams once every three years (two rotating cross-divisional games every year out of six teams).

I'd also be fine with an "option" on the perm rival...teams can have them if they want and if they don't then they can play three rotating cross divisional games.
Posted by TeLeFaWx
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Member since Aug 2011
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Posted on 5/3/13 at 9:05 am to
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Or you could go to a nine game schedule, keep the permanent rivalries, and still see the other teams once every three years (two rotating cross-divisional games every year out of six teams).


This is what I prefer.
Posted by JustGetItRight
Member since Jan 2012
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Posted on 5/3/13 at 10:23 am to
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Or you could go to a nine game schedule, keep the permanent rivalries, and still see the other teams once every three years (two rotating cross-divisional games every year out of six teams).


This is exactly what I think will happen.

The one and only down side is that you'll have one less home game every other season. From a revenue standpoint, the new TV money will way more than offset one game's gate.

The home advantage just can't be helped, but the REC will make sure that UK, State, Mizzou, UT, and OM are Bama's road opponents in those seasons so all will be well there too.
Posted by wadewilson
Member since Sep 2009
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Posted on 5/3/13 at 10:23 am to
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I completely agree with this. What is the point of being in the same conference with a school if you never even play them in football the entire time you are a player/student?


You think the students care?

I would pay to see one football player at LSU stay for a 4th year just because he didn't make it to Knoxville yet.
This post was edited on 5/3/13 at 10:24 am
Posted by TeLeFaWx
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Member since Aug 2011
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Posted on 5/3/13 at 10:46 am to
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The one and only down side is that you'll have one less home game every other season. From a revenue standpoint, the new TV money will way more than offset one game's gate.


Well. You have to think of it as half a game for most, but in reality, a whole game for teams with a neutral site game and a permanent home and home, specifically Georgia and Florida. Those teams also make a lot more than most from gate revenue. I think there is legitimate concern from each of those schools going from 7-8 games a year to 6-7 games a year. It is what it is. I hope we go to a 9 game schedule, and A&M has a neutral site game with Arky, and at some point we will have tu back on the schedule, so we would be in the same boat as Florida and Georgia. O well. 9 games is better for everyone, imo.
Posted by IAmReality
Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 5/3/13 at 1:28 pm to
Love it or hate it, it's coming.

Given a 14 (or more) team league it's the only thing that makes sense.

All the other major conferences are also going to a 9 game schedule.

I am for it, we have enough cream puff tomato can games on the schedule already. We can live without Alabama vs. Georgia State or Florida vs. The Citadel, etc.

It will make it harder to go undefeated, but with the new 4 game playoff, going undefeated is no longer nearly as important as it once was.
This post was edited on 5/3/13 at 1:29 pm
Posted by NYCAuburn
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Posted on 5/3/13 at 1:29 pm to
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It will make it harder to go undefeated, but with the new 4 game playoff, going undefeated is no longer nearly as important as it once was.


While I agree, there a few teams who would lose thier OOC perenial game. UGA, USC, UF, UK

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All the other major conferences are also going to a 9 game schedule


Thing is, a lot of the other teams 9 game conference slate is pretty damn weak
This post was edited on 5/3/13 at 1:31 pm
Posted by dbt_Geaux_Tigers_196
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Posted on 5/3/13 at 1:32 pm to
If tOSU had their way they'd probably like an 11 game slate.
Posted by BrerTiger
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Posted on 5/3/13 at 1:37 pm to
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It will make it harder to go undefeated, but with the new 4 game playoff, going undefeated is no longer nearly as important as it once was.


I think at some point in the near future we need to DQ teams from playoff eligibility if they schedule rent a wins from conferences like the Sun Belt or FBS.

Fans would be a lot happier with less rent a win games. Having an undefeated season is great and all but I'd rather see a 12 game regular season featuring all BCS (or whatever we're calling it now) conference opponents. If a team isn't eligible to be in the new playoff then they shouldn't be on your schedule. But unless it's enforced somehow, it will never happen. Too much financial incentive to schedule rent a wins and avoid possible losses. Imagine if the NFL scheduled that way -- bringing in a few Arena league teams during the regular season for rent a wins.
Posted by NYCAuburn
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Posted on 5/3/13 at 1:42 pm to
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rent a wins


I am not opposed to rent a wins in general. However, I think every team should play at least one team from a BCS conference. Rent a wins provide much needed financial income for many universities across the country. Many schools would not have a team if it wasnt for those rent a wins
Posted by BrerTiger
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Posted on 5/3/13 at 1:50 pm to
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I am not opposed to rent a wins in general. However, I think every team should play at least one team from a BCS conference. Rent a wins provide much needed financial income for many universities across the country. Many schools would not have a team if it wasnt for those rent a wins


All excellent points.

I would support requiring at least one BCS OOC opponent. That would also make it fairer for schools like Georgia, Florida and Carolina.

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Many schools would not have a team if it wasnt for those rent a wins


Actually some of them might go back to FCS where they belong.
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