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Won't this whole playoff system fall apart?
Posted on 5/1/13 at 8:41 am
Posted on 5/1/13 at 8:41 am
The moment the selection committee selects a team outside the top 4 at the end of the year?
Or do I need educating on how the rankings will work?
Or do I need educating on how the rankings will work?
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Posted on 5/1/13 at 8:42 am to PrivatePublic
I think they're making their own poll 
Posted on 5/1/13 at 8:46 am to PrivatePublic
They should just use computer rankings and the top 4 get in. Leave biased people out of it
Posted on 5/1/13 at 8:47 am to PrivatePublic
If they weren't going to make conference champs a requirement, then they should of kept the BCS poll, and use only that.
So instead they will use only 15 people, and their inherent biases.
So instead they will use only 15 people, and their inherent biases.
Posted on 5/1/13 at 8:49 am to Jma313
It'll fail when their circle jerk partners don't get in. aka ND, OSU, USC. This system will stay intact until a school with enough power doesn't make it.
Posted on 5/1/13 at 8:49 am to The Nino
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I think they're making their own poll
That is correct.
Posted on 5/1/13 at 8:53 am to Jma313
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They should just use computer rankings and the top 4 get in. Leave biased people out of it
The computers are just as biased as the people who write the programs
Posted on 5/1/13 at 8:54 am to The Nino
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I think they're making their own poll
Are the other polls (AP, Coaches) still going to be around? I imagine there will be quite a bit of pressure on the committee to not deviate from these polls too much. Coaches can still influence in that way.
Posted on 5/1/13 at 8:58 am to TreyAnastasio
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The computers are just as biased as the people who write the programs
That really doesn't make any sense. The computer polls are not allowed to change their mind at the end of the season. They apply the same standards and rules from start to finish.
The NCAA screwed the playoff system when they agreed to this 15 person committee. Should have been BCS top 4 teams.
Posted on 5/1/13 at 9:00 am to PrivatePublic
quote:Probably, but I don't think it's been determined if they will have any influence on the playoff poll
Are the other polls (AP, Coaches) still going to be around?
Posted on 5/1/13 at 9:02 am to FlukerFlakes
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That really doesn't make any sense.
There is no standard as to what constitutes a computer poll. So you can manipulate the program that creates the poll anyway you want.
Posted on 5/1/13 at 9:05 am to PrivatePublic
The stupid public wanted this, now they'll see why it's a bad idea.
Posted on 5/1/13 at 9:05 am to TreyAnastasio
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There is no standard as to what constitutes a computer poll
The computer polls are based on specific algorithms. So there is a "standard" more or less. But only one poll (it escapes me which one) makes that algorithm public knowledge, so there's that.
Posted on 5/1/13 at 9:06 am to TreyAnastasio
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There is no standard as to what constitutes a computer poll. So you can manipulate the program that creates the poll anyway you want.
Unless the computer poll is designed to give certain specific teams more weight in the calculations (like a win for ND counts double what a win for Boise does), I fail to see how having no standard is bad. You need different ways to rank teams so you have a wide array.
Posted on 5/1/13 at 9:07 am to PrivatePublic
Probably. So?
Posted on 5/1/13 at 9:11 am to PrivatePublic
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The computer polls are based on specific algorithms.
They are based on the algorithms that the poll creator wrote. If they wanted to weight one thing over another it would be easy to do.
Posted on 5/1/13 at 9:14 am to TreyAnastasio
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They are based on the algorithms that the poll creator wrote. If they wanted to weight one thing over another it would be easy to do.
This. And the algorithms are rarely released
Posted on 5/1/13 at 9:15 am to PrivatePublic
Actually no, it will get worse...
When a team is jilted at #5 or so, the "don't cry, a year or so ago you'd have had no argument" won't be valid and the cry will go out to EXPAND the playoffs. It will take multiple incidents and years, but in 20 years or so we'll ave a 16 team playoff and wonder what the hell happened.
When a team is jilted at #5 or so, the "don't cry, a year or so ago you'd have had no argument" won't be valid and the cry will go out to EXPAND the playoffs. It will take multiple incidents and years, but in 20 years or so we'll ave a 16 team playoff and wonder what the hell happened.
Posted on 5/1/13 at 9:16 am to TreyAnastasio
I can already foresee how this thing will turn out:
SEC Champion = IN.
Loser of SEC Championship game = automatically out.
2 loss or under Notre Dame = IN.
Big 10 or 12 champ = IN.
Pac 12 champ = IN.
Top four ranked SEC team not in the SEC championship game = OUT.
Every damn year. If you think more than one SEC team will make it in, you're crazy.
SEC Champion = IN.
Loser of SEC Championship game = automatically out.
2 loss or under Notre Dame = IN.
Big 10 or 12 champ = IN.
Pac 12 champ = IN.
Top four ranked SEC team not in the SEC championship game = OUT.
Every damn year. If you think more than one SEC team will make it in, you're crazy.
Posted on 5/1/13 at 9:16 am to SpqrTiger
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If you think more than one SEC team will make it in, you're crazy
Not at all, and I agree that the loser of the SECCG is most likely out.
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