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Rutgers SG Eli Carter Commits to Florida

Posted on 4/30/13 at 8:52 pm
Posted by GatorsGators
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Posted on 4/30/13 at 8:52 pm
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Have we replaced Missouri as Transfer U?

Carter might be Rosario 2.0... He was a prolific, but inefficient scorer at Rutgers and is an undersized SG. He is apparently applying for a waiver, but I think that it'd be better for both parties for him to sit out a year. He has two years of eligibility remaining.
Posted by thunderbird1100
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Posted on 4/30/13 at 9:04 pm to
Yeah dont see him getting the waiver approved. Nobody gets that because a coach is fired
Posted by UltimateHog
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Posted on 5/1/13 at 12:08 am to
The Rutgers PG Seagears decides tomorrow, hearing Arkansas but who knows.

From what I've heard, any Rutgers player wanting to transfer can get a waiver to play immediately due to what happened at Rutgers.

Similar to Penn State in football, minus child rape plus player abuse.
Posted by thunderbird1100
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Posted on 5/1/13 at 12:10 am to
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From what I've heard, any Rutgers player wanting to transfer can get a waiver to play immediately due to what happened at Rutgers.



Dont see it happening. This is a firing like any other, just got highly publicized. None of the players wanted him gone.
Posted by UltimateHog
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Posted on 5/1/13 at 12:12 am to
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Dont see it happening.



Well it will.

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This is a firing like any other


No, it's not.

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None of the players wanted him gone


And no one wanted Paterno fired at PSU, what's your point?
This post was edited on 5/1/13 at 12:14 am
Posted by thunderbird1100
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Posted on 5/1/13 at 12:20 am to
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Well it will.



Just because someone applies for a waiver doesnt mean they get it


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No, it's not.



Sure, he got canned because practice videos went viral. When the school saw it they barely did anything, when the media got ahold of it they had to fire him. Coaches get fired for lots of different reasons and this one isn't something out of this world where the team is put on probation, etc...


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And no one wanted Paterno fired at PSU, what's your point?



Because the players knew what was going on? My point is none of the players ever cared about his coaching style, so because he was fired, why should they be treated differently than any other coach that is fired? Because it made the news for a week?
Posted by GatorsGators
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Posted on 5/1/13 at 12:23 am to
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Similar to Penn State in football, minus child rape plus player abuse.

Don't forget the NCAA sanctions.
Posted by UltimateHog
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Posted on 5/1/13 at 12:24 am to
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My point is none of the players ever cared about his coaching style


How the frick could you possible know this?

3 players requested a transfer BEFORE the video about the abuse even launched.

Seems to me like they wanted the frick out because of his coaching style. Did you even read up on this?

I mean it's not hard to just google the articles man, every single one say the kids transferring will very likely be immediately eligible. Even Andy Katz tweeted it's highly unlikely they get denied eligibility after it happened which is largely why so many bigger schools pounced on their 2 best transfers.

This post was edited on 5/1/13 at 12:25 am
Posted by thunderbird1100
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Posted on 5/1/13 at 12:24 am to
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Don't forget the NCAA sanctions.



Exactly, Texas Tech players were not allowed to transfer with a waiver when Leach was let go there and this is a similar situation.

If no probation/sanctions, should be treated just like any other firing.
This post was edited on 5/1/13 at 12:25 am
Posted by Tide or Die87
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Posted on 5/1/13 at 12:25 am to
The NCAA is on some bullshite if they wont give this kid a waiver. I mean this isn't the average situation. ANy kid on that team should be able to leave IMO.
Posted by GatorsGators
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Posted on 5/1/13 at 12:26 am to
I wouldn't be too upset if Carter didn't get the waiver...
Posted by thunderbird1100
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Posted on 5/1/13 at 12:28 am to
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How the frick could you possible know this?



Because no player EVER said anything about it while it was going on. Probably because there's more than just him out there that does this kind of stuff, and other schools have just kept it under wraps better than Rutgers was able to.


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3 players requested a transfer BEFORE the video about the abuse even launched.



Transfers happen all the time in college basketball. It's a common thing.


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I mean it's not hard to just google the articles man, every single one say the kids transferring will very likely be immediately eligible.


Because some people say it may happen doesnt mean it will. Are they on that committee who decides? If not then dont give a shite what they say. This is a similar situation to when leach was canned at Texas Tech and they were not allowed to transfer with a waiver ti play immediately. With no sanctions on Rutgers there is absolutely no reason why this should be any different, unless the NCAA wants to cave to the media.
Posted by UltimateHog
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Posted on 5/1/13 at 12:28 am to
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The NCAA is on some bullshite if they wont give this kid a waiver. I mean this isn't the average situation.


They know this, and they know how viral it went.

Everything I've read from Andy Katz, others at ESPN, and local Rutgers article about them transferring all say the players will be playing next year wherever they choose to play.

Tbird just likes to argue for the sake of arguing regardless of what you tell him, known troll.
This post was edited on 5/1/13 at 12:29 am
Posted by thunderbird1100
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Posted on 5/1/13 at 12:29 am to
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The NCAA is on some bullshite if they wont give this kid a waiver. I mean this isn't the average situation. ANy kid on that team should be able to leave IMO.



If that's true then allow any player whose coach is fired a waiver to play immediately, cant just stop here.

The coach is now gone from there and there are no sanctions. Under precedent that's not a condition for a waiver to play immediately in the past.
Posted by thunderbird1100
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Posted on 5/1/13 at 12:31 am to
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Tbird just likes to argue for the sake of arguing regardless of what you tell him, known troll.



Hilarious coming from the guy who argued for pages and pages about there was no way LSU would finish Top 10 in basketball recruiting weeks ago...well, well, well


Bottom line about this situation is the only way they get immediately eligible is if they ignore precedent and do something new. Until they decide to change their stance, I'll believe what they've done in the past in this situation.
Posted by UltimateHog
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Posted on 5/1/13 at 12:33 am to
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I'll believe what they've done in the past in this situation.


And that's where your fault lies.

Like they said when this happened, something like this is unprecedented and has never happened before.

Ban bet for a month when Carter and/or Seagears are declared eligible next season?
Posted by thunderbird1100
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Posted on 5/1/13 at 12:37 am to
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Like they said when this happened, something like this is unprecedented and has never happened before.



LMAO if you truly believe this. This is something that happens at more than just Rutgers. You are truly naive if you dont believe that. So what, the guy screamed at his players and occasionally threw the basketball at them. Rutgers thought it was so terrible they suspended him for a short bit.

Yep, NEVER happened anywhere before


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Ban bet for a month when Carter and/or Seagears are declared eligible next season?



Could care less, jsut stating what case precedent is on this. If they decide to change that, then they are opening up pandora's box on transfers. Their problem is gone from there and there's no sanctions on the team. They shouldn't be allowed to freely transfer. This is VERY much like the Texas Tech/Leach situation when he "abused" a player.



And good job ignoring the basketball recruiting comment, I know you've been avoiding the few basketball recruiting threads like the plague recently.
This post was edited on 5/1/13 at 12:39 am
Posted by UltimateHog
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Posted on 5/1/13 at 12:39 am to
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LMAO if you truly believe this. This is something that happens at more than just Rutgers. You are truly naive if you dont believe that. So what, the guy screamed at his players and occasionally threw the basketball at them. Rutgers thought it was so terrible they suspended him for a short bit.



Jesus you are clueless, stop trolling this thread with your blatant stupidity on the subject, good god you are worse than tickfaw.

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Could care less


Put up or shut up, so quiet time for you.

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And good job ignoring the basketball recruiting comment, I know you've been avoiding the few basketball recruiting threads like the plague recently.


You finished 10th on ESPN and Rivals, which is not IN the Top 10. I win.
This post was edited on 5/1/13 at 12:41 am
Posted by thunderbird1100
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Posted on 5/1/13 at 12:41 am to
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Jesus you are clueless, stop trolling this thread with your blatant stupidity on the subject, good god you are worse than tickfaw.



So yes, you are that naive. Once again, Texas Tech/Mike Leach.


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Put up or shut up, so quiet time for you.



All I said was case precedent, they could absolutely change that due to media pressure, it happens. But based on the facts and past, they would have to have a big change on this one with no sanctions on the school and the coach being gone.
Posted by thunderbird1100
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Posted on 5/1/13 at 12:42 am to
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You finished 10th on ESPN and Rivals, which is not IN the Top 10. I win.






So much fail. So, much, fail.
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