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Save Auburn Aviation!
Posted on 4/22/13 at 5:24 pm
Posted on 4/22/13 at 5:24 pm
Please sign the petition. Our aviation program is a very defining characteristic of our University and it would be a great loss to discontinue the program.
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Posted on 4/22/13 at 5:37 pm to flyAU
I keep asking this question to the Save AU Aviation people, but I can never get an answer:
How much money does the University spend per enrolled student in the Auburn Aviation program? How does that compare to other schools? What is the total in-state and out-of-state tuition to be enrolled in the AU Aviation program as compared to the cost of the program?
Is the enrollment into the program rising? Falling? Steady?
How much money does the University spend per enrolled student in the Auburn Aviation program? How does that compare to other schools? What is the total in-state and out-of-state tuition to be enrolled in the AU Aviation program as compared to the cost of the program?
Is the enrollment into the program rising? Falling? Steady?
This post was edited on 4/22/13 at 5:41 pm
Posted on 4/22/13 at 5:40 pm to beatbammer
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I keep asking this question from the Save AU Aviation people, but I can never get an answer:
How much money does the University spend per enrolled student in the Auburn Aviation program? How does that compare to other schools? What is the total in-state and out-of-state tuition to be enrolled in the AU Aviation program as compared to the cost of the program?
Is the enrollment into the program rising? Falling? Steady?
^^^^^^THIS^^^^^^
Posted on 4/22/13 at 5:54 pm to beatbammer
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I keep asking this question to the Save AU Aviation people, but I can never get an answer:
How much money does the University spend per enrolled student in the Auburn Aviation program? How does that compare to other schools? What is the total in-state and out-of-state tuition to be enrolled in the AU Aviation program as compared to the cost of the program?
Is the enrollment into the program rising? Falling? Steady?
While I can't tell you the exacts on that, when I was there any flight time (plane, fuel, instructor) costs were paid on top of tuition. This makes it very similar to other programs.
Once again, i am too far removed from school but the Auburn program is a main feeder into the airlines and Delta has been lobbying hard to have Auburn keep the program. From what I know the enrollment has been healthy although Auburn has not replaced instructors who have left.
In the end I as well can't give you those specifics you asked for, but I also don't see how there is no way to save the program. If it costs more, then do what it takes to make the program sustainable.
Posted on 4/22/13 at 6:02 pm to flyAU
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While I can't tell you the exacts on that, when I was there any flight time (plane, fuel, instructor) costs were paid on top of tuition. This makes it very similar to other programs.
Once again, i am too far removed from school but the Auburn program is a main feeder into the airlines and Delta has been lobbying hard to have Auburn keep the program. From what I know the enrollment has been healthy although Auburn has not replaced instructors who have left.
In the end I as well can't give you those specifics you asked for, but I also don't see how there is no way to save the program. If it costs more, then do what it takes to make the program sustainable.
All I know is that universities rarely eliminate well reputed programs on a whim. If they are considering doing this, THERE IS A REASON.
I would like to know that reason. And then I would like to hear AU Aviation's rebuttal to that reason.
That way I can make a judgement using all available information. "Save AU Aviation!" sounds admirable, but without accompanying information, it's just an appeal to emotion. I prefer to make decisions based on the facts.
Though I sincerely commend you for your efforts and your dedication.
Posted on 4/22/13 at 6:13 pm to beatbammer
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an appeal to emotion
I can't argue with that
Posted on 4/22/13 at 6:20 pm to flyAU
They had a big presence at A-Day Game outside of stadium.
Posted on 4/22/13 at 7:34 pm to RockyMtnTigerWDE
There was a plane with a banner too
Posted on 4/22/13 at 7:46 pm to The Nino
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There was a plane with a banner too
How in the world were they able to get a...
Oh.
Nevermind.
Posted on 4/22/13 at 8:12 pm to beatbammer
so what constitutes saving the program?
...no i didnt click the link
...no i didnt click the link
Posted on 4/22/13 at 8:16 pm to HailToTheChiz
The program falls under the common market programs and out of state students get instate tuition their JR and SR years which lowers revenue for the program.
University pays a significant amount of money into the maintenance and upkeep of those planes and students do not pay for it.
Just how successful is the program at placing students at major airlines?
What is the benefit of this program?
University pays a significant amount of money into the maintenance and upkeep of those planes and students do not pay for it.
Just how successful is the program at placing students at major airlines?
What is the benefit of this program?
Posted on 4/22/13 at 8:36 pm to GenesChin
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What is the benefit of this program?
Duh!
Posted on 4/22/13 at 8:39 pm to GenesChin
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Just how successful is the program at placing students at major airlines?
Very high. One of Delta's biggest feeder programs. Just about every one of my friends who graduated from the actual aviation program have found jobs in the airlines.
I was a part of the common market scenario so that helped me a ton. Once again we don't have a breakdown of cost's but I did have to pay for every hour for plane rental, fuel and instructor time. That is not covered in tuition.
Posted on 4/25/13 at 2:45 pm to flyAU
Richard Simmons endorses Auburn Aviation. No, I'm not kidding.
Posted on 4/25/13 at 2:56 pm to LandofDixie
Dad works for delta was in program. Makes 250k a year. Very beneficial
Posted on 4/25/13 at 5:17 pm to LandofDixie
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Richard Simmons endorses Auburn Aviation. No, I'm not kidding.
That's utterly superbly awesome, in a watching an impressive violent car wreck kind of way.
Posted on 4/26/13 at 8:15 pm to beatbammer
The biggest issue for the future of Aviation Management Program happened when they moved it away from the school of Engineering. Dr. Walker and the elitist in the SOE thought it took away from their program. The School of Business reluctantly brought the program into the fold. It then changed into just another Management Program. Industry did not see a great advantage hiring a AM graduate over a normal Management graduate because of the lack of the industrial emphasis part of the curriculum.
The Pro Flight Curriculum is twice as costly as most quicky Flight Schools. The fact that the Military and the Airlines have not trained or hired many pilots the last decade has hurt the program.
It is going to be hard to save the program. Not because of money, but because neither School (Bus/Eng) wants it part of their program.
The Pro Flight Curriculum is twice as costly as most quicky Flight Schools. The fact that the Military and the Airlines have not trained or hired many pilots the last decade has hurt the program.
It is going to be hard to save the program. Not because of money, but because neither School (Bus/Eng) wants it part of their program.
Posted on 4/27/13 at 1:50 am to Irons Puppet
Ran into Harrison the SGA president today and he briefly said he has been meeting with people all week.
They have been looking into a ton of different options. From privatizing the program, contracting out and also keeping it. Big thing is making sure that the program is cost effective. If it is just a drain then it is getting thrown out
They have been looking into a ton of different options. From privatizing the program, contracting out and also keeping it. Big thing is making sure that the program is cost effective. If it is just a drain then it is getting thrown out
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