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will anyone ever break D. Thomas's sack records
Posted on 4/16/13 at 8:37 am
Posted on 4/16/13 at 8:37 am
27 in a season and 52 in his career.
No one has really come close. He also is tied with Billy Jackson of MSU for 2nd place on the season with 18.
The talk of Clowney winning the hiesman. How close does he need to get, if he broke the single season record then sure he'd be a shoe in but he really hasn't come close. Sacks are the glory stat for d-lineman, so where dies he need to get to be mentioned as one of the greats?
No one has really come close. He also is tied with Billy Jackson of MSU for 2nd place on the season with 18.
The talk of Clowney winning the hiesman. How close does he need to get, if he broke the single season record then sure he'd be a shoe in but he really hasn't come close. Sacks are the glory stat for d-lineman, so where dies he need to get to be mentioned as one of the greats?
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Posted on 4/16/13 at 8:40 am to spacewrangler
Clowney is one of the greats already. He is a beast.
Posted on 4/16/13 at 8:40 am to spacewrangler
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The talk of Clowney winning the hiesman.
Win the what?
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so where dies he need to get to be mentioned as one of the greats?
He doesn't need to die for that to happen imo
Posted on 4/16/13 at 8:41 am to spacewrangler
He needs to be better than Glenn Dorsey.
Posted on 4/16/13 at 8:42 am to memphstigers23
Really, all you could come up with to add to the discussion was my lame typing while on my phone. GTFO with that shite.
Posted on 4/16/13 at 8:46 am to spacewrangler
It wont be Clowney. Hes a dynamic player but he disappears for long periods of time during some games. He isnt a max effort every single play guy.
Posted on 4/16/13 at 8:47 am to spacewrangler
Posted on 4/16/13 at 8:47 am to UsingUpAllTheLetters
While I immensely respect Derrick Thomas, the best career on a pro rata basis belongs to Terrell Suggs. That guy was an absolute beast.
Posted on 4/16/13 at 8:48 am to spacewrangler
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27 in a season and 52 in his career.
No. I think the 27 in a season could be broken. In 02 when Pollack had 14 sacks, I think he was 2nd in the nation to Terrell Suggs who had something ridiculous like 20. I think you could see a Clowney/Suggs type freak play in some shitty conference and get 27 one year.
However, 52 won't be broken. That's 13 sacks a year for a career, which is conceivable, but if a player is THAT good, they won't stick around and play 4 years.
Posted on 4/16/13 at 8:48 am to DawgHolliday
If he had a motor like Pollack had then how good could he be? That guy was a max effort player, he brought it every play and Hus stats back that up. Not the most physically gifted but his effort made the difference.
Posted on 4/16/13 at 8:50 am to InVolNerable
Posted on 4/16/13 at 8:51 am to InVolNerable
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Leave it to an Alabama fan to claim a title that doesn't actually belong to them.
In his defense, somehow the sack didn't become official in college until 2000
Posted on 4/16/13 at 8:53 am to spacewrangler
The data was put together for players pre-2000 by going back and looking at the tape. It isn't quite as reliable as contemporaneous stat keeping, but for the most part, it is hard to quibble with the ex post facto data. It is much more difficult, though, because sometimes no film for certain games exists.
#TMYK
#TMYK
Posted on 4/16/13 at 8:56 am to spacewrangler
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I got the data from this site. If it's wrong then my bad
It's not wrong. It's just not official. They were tabulated retroactively, which I think should count.
The biggest thing that pisses me off with CFB records is they now include bowl/CC games in season records, but don't retroactively count them for the previous record holders.
Posted on 4/16/13 at 9:03 am to InVolNerable
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Leave it to an Alabama fan to claim a title that doesn't actually belong to them.
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It's not wrong. It's just not official. They were tabulated retroactively, which I think should count.
So which is it?
Posted on 4/16/13 at 9:03 am to InVolNerable
Yep, add in the bowl game to Barry Sanders' 1988 stats 
Posted on 4/16/13 at 9:05 am to UsingUpAllTheLetters
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He needs to be better than Glenn Dorsey
He's been better than Glenn Dorsey since his junior year in high school.
Posted on 4/16/13 at 9:06 am to PropJoe
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So which is it?
I have found lately that a lot of Bama fans don't understand when things are mutually exclusive. I'm not sure why your fanbase has that issue. For further study, go see Trey's honeybadger thread from last week.
Let me help you. They both are correct. The number is likely correctly tallied, though no one went back to make sure the film reviewer did it correctly. It is not and will never be official because sack was not an official stat until 2000. So it is both.
Also, let me help you out:
LINK
Please read this. I'll expect a report tomorrow.
Posted on 4/16/13 at 9:08 am to thedudeabides
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Yep, add in the bowl game to Barry Sanders' 1988 stats
Everyone was making a huge deal about Kevin Smith coming close to breaking Sander's record a few years back. They like to overlook the fact that Kevin Smith had 14 games to break it, while Sanders did it in 11. Add in his bowl game, and Smith was 300 yards away still with 2 more games played.
Smith's year was incredible, but nobody can touch Sanders's year.
This post was edited on 4/16/13 at 9:10 am
Posted on 4/16/13 at 9:11 am to PropJoe
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So which is it?
It's both, you dumb frick.
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