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Just checked out the UGA Campus master plan

Posted on 3/24/13 at 7:17 pm
Posted by tylerdurden24
Member since Sep 2009
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Posted on 3/24/13 at 7:17 pm
Holy hell, the new Terry College building

Also, the new Bolton dining and catwalk going into the corner of Baxter and Lumpkin looks tight. Kind of wondering how the continued expansion of Tate over the exposed parking deck is going to screw with gameday parking...



Mash dis hur for the pdf and lots of pictures
This post was edited on 3/25/13 at 5:48 am
Posted by Jefferson Dawg
Member since Sep 2012
34896 posts
Posted on 3/24/13 at 8:52 pm to
Did you know that student loan DEBT actually exceeds credit card DEBT now in our hopelessly insane society????

SOrry. What am I thinking? Nevermind the blatantly obvious education bubble. Celebrity Apprentice is on!!!!!

Life is good!!!!!!! Do not smoke them if you've got them!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!




Twilight Zone.
Posted by tylerdurden24
Member since Sep 2009
49096 posts
Posted on 3/24/13 at 9:03 pm to
I'm going to pretend that you and I are smoking the same thing.

Boo student debt.
Posted by gatorhata9
Dallas, TX
Member since Dec 2010
26186 posts
Posted on 3/24/13 at 9:20 pm to
All that link pulled up was a proposed campus map. Where do you find the renderings of the buildings?
Posted by Jefferson Dawg
Member since Sep 2012
34896 posts
Posted on 3/24/13 at 9:20 pm to
quote:

Boo student debt.

SOunds to me like the return on your investment is not going so well.

If so....then, why are you cheering on the expansion of UGA's campus?

Seems kind of backwards to me.

Here you are paying interest on the money you borrowed.......while they are simultaneously spending it to make room for more debt-slaves.

Am I wrong? (i hope i'm not coming across disrespectful. i'm being sincere)
Posted by gatorhata9
Dallas, TX
Member since Dec 2010
26186 posts
Posted on 3/24/13 at 9:31 pm to
He didn't go to UGA, he went to GCSU.
Posted by Jefferson Dawg
Member since Sep 2012
34896 posts
Posted on 3/24/13 at 9:58 pm to
quote:

He didn't go to UGA, he went to GCSU.

Irrelevant.

The topic here is DEBT. GCSU does not create the level of student loan debt that UGA does, but debt is debt.

Gatorhater9, Dig down deep....... do you really not hear alarm bells going off somewhere deep down in your gut, when you look closely at a system like this?........ where institutions that promise to give people an advantage.......are INSTEAD saddling them with debt?
Posted by gatorhata9
Dallas, TX
Member since Dec 2010
26186 posts
Posted on 3/24/13 at 10:07 pm to
quote:

Irrelevant


When we're talking about if he's pissed about UGA spending money he never gave them because he never went there then it is relevant.

quote:

The topic here is DEBT


It's actually the campus expansion for UGA.

quote:

Gatorhater9, Dig down deep....... do you really not hear alarm bells going off somewhere deep down in your gut, when you look closely at a system like this?........ where institutions that promise to give people an advantage.......are INSTEAD saddling them with debt?



No one is forcing people to go to UGA or any other school. They're the one's paying into it. It's a good that people pay for and it's a valuable one at that.
Posted by K9
wayx....BOBO IN '19 &lt-- oops
Member since Sep 2012
26844 posts
Posted on 3/24/13 at 10:25 pm to
I think that debt youre talking about has been affecting college students for what 3-4 decades? Usually, one can overcome the debt once they get that steady job a college degree use to be able to get you, but with the job market what it is, the debt becomes a bigger story. Because now you've got 50,000 dollars to pay back and you youre making 9 bucks/hr.....thats what fricks people up....not college.
This post was edited on 3/24/13 at 10:30 pm
Posted by Jefferson Dawg
Member since Sep 2012
34896 posts
Posted on 3/24/13 at 10:32 pm to
quote:

No one is forcing people to go to UGA or any other school.

Of course, no one is forcing it. That's absurd. INstead....... what's happening is that it is being UNnaturally FACILITATED.

It's not a matter of opinion.

An economy DOES NOT naturally produce these types of loans or this type of system. Instead, the whole artificial charade is a 100% product of regulation and busy-body politicking.

NOthing more. NOthin less.

quote:

They're the one's paying into it.


I don't even know where to start with this one......

Actually, we're all paying into it.

For every sucker that takes out a loan to go to UGA to get a degree that he/she never uses.......WE ARE ALL POORER FOR IT.

Take the guy selling lumber with a BA in History.......or the lady selling real-estate with an education degree who quit teaching after her first nightmarish year in a public school...........

THeir debts ARE OUR DEBT. If they had skipped the education scam, and gone straight into their careers debt free...........how much more would they be worth? And what would they do if they didn't have this ball-n-chain of debt tied to their heel?

How much more money would be circulating, instead of being paid to banks who created the money they loaned them out of thin air?

quote:

It's a good that people pay for and it's a valuable one at that

It's a good that most people BORROW!!!!!!!! for.

And it's a scam, for the most part.

SOrry.
Posted by Jefferson Dawg
Member since Sep 2012
34896 posts
Posted on 3/24/13 at 10:39 pm to
quote:

Because now you've got 50,000 dollars to pay back and you youre making 9 bucks/hr.....thats what fricks people up....not college.

Does not compute.

THis shite is heart-breaking. If I start trying to explain our corrupt and doomed monetary system, I'll get called a crank. Meanwhile......good folks are suffering..............and they don't even know why.



Damn.
Posted by K9
wayx....BOBO IN '19 &lt-- oops
Member since Sep 2012
26844 posts
Posted on 3/24/13 at 10:42 pm to
word
Posted by crispyUGA
Upstate SC
Member since Feb 2011
16270 posts
Posted on 3/24/13 at 11:07 pm to
I graduated from UGA with zero dollars of debt.
Posted by tylerdurden24
Member since Sep 2009
49096 posts
Posted on 3/25/13 at 5:44 am to
quote:

I graduated from UGA with zero dollars of debt.

I just have grad school debt to deal with. The rest was staved off via busting my arse to keep HOPE for four years and getting really lucky that I figured out early on what I was good at and what I wanted to do. I would say the latter half of the equation is one of the big reasons folks are getting fricked so bad by student debt: HOPE is nice, but it isn't patient for 6 years while you sort your life out and figure out what it is you want out of college.
Posted by tylerdurden24
Member since Sep 2009
49096 posts
Posted on 3/25/13 at 5:48 am to
quote:

All that link pulled up was a proposed campus map. Where do you find the renderings of the buildings?


Try this one

LINK
Posted by tylerdurden24
Member since Sep 2009
49096 posts
Posted on 3/25/13 at 5:52 am to
quote:

then, why are you cheering on the expansion of UGA's campus?


Because once upon a time - before I realized that I am just the worst at math - I really wanted to get into architecture and city planning. So it has always been a sort of interest of mine the way Athens and the UGA campus have evolved since I was a little kid. Plus, I'm likely moving to Athens (finally; stayed at GCSU because it offered the best situation for me, but I'd be damned if I said I didn't think about transferring for the hell of it) post-grad. So, now, I kind of have a personal stake in how my landscape is going to be changing.
This post was edited on 3/25/13 at 5:53 am
Posted by gatorhata9
Dallas, TX
Member since Dec 2010
26186 posts
Posted on 3/25/13 at 6:20 am to
Sorry, can't take you seriously to begin with and when you unnaturally capitalize letters it makes me want to stop reading all together.
Posted by SquatchDawg
Cohutta Wilderness
Member since Sep 2012
20226 posts
Posted on 3/25/13 at 1:21 pm to
I can't speak for Jefferson - nor would I intend to.

However, I see where he's coming from in that it seems odd people would cheer a multi-million dollar expansion of the college at the same time when more and more kids are having to go into incredibly high levels of debt just to go to college. How about foregoing a few fountains in lieu of a tuition reduction?

Back in the early 90's 9 mths of tuition was slightly less than $2,000 and a decent salary out of a 4 yr UGA business program was about $28,000/yr. Tuition has gone up 5 times that....has the starting salary kept pace?

Also, you could almost pay your own way through college with a minimal amount of help. Now, you need either a student loan (govt.) or a hope scholarship (govt.) to afford to go to UGA - unless your folks are doing pretty well. Do we really want a system where the govt. controls who does or doesn't get to attend a major college?

It sure does seem to me that the open money spigot of low interest rates, endless credit and lotto money has driven the cost of college up to the point where normal kids with lower middle class parents who don't want to saddle themselves with $100K of debt can't pay the estimated $20K/yr to even go.

Say whaaa??

I'm personally surprised that more of the Occupy types aren't protesting having to pay $20K/yr to get a degree....but I guess it's because they don't realize they have to pay those loans back until they're out of college. Of course nobody's forced to sign on the dotted line, but in a society that's been dumbed down, can't understand how compounding interest works and has been taught that a 0% introductory rate is AWESOME...who's surprised?

By the way, want to know who owns that $1T of student loan debt that will probably never be repaid? You do.
Posted by HinesvilleThrill
Skidaway Island
Member since Sep 2012
3475 posts
Posted on 3/25/13 at 1:33 pm to
The problem with the rising student debt in the nation is these Tech schools advertising at places like homeless shelters. These people think eduaction is a way out and the Federal Govt pays for it and of course the people don't pay it back. These Tech schools are completely and totally unethical.
Posted by RealDawg
Dawgville
Member since Nov 2012
11332 posts
Posted on 3/25/13 at 2:07 pm to
1) That is alot of space for like 2,000 more students in that number of years. That is like 3,100 sq ft of space per student!

2) Amazing how all that construction started just after HOPE was introduced and not shite was built the 10 years before that.
This post was edited on 3/25/13 at 2:20 pm
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