re: SI: Alabama Football Team took Deer Antler Spray (steroids)

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Dr. Roberto Salvatori, who runs a lab studying growth hormone deficiency and has been on the Hopkins faculty since 1998, said there is no scientifically accepted way to deliver IGF-1 orally.

“If there were, a lot of people would be happy that they don’t need to get shots anymore,” he said. “It’s just simply not possible for it to come from a spray.”

IGF-1, short for insulin-like growth factor, is used to treat a rare form of dwarfism known as Laron syndrome and in other cases where children fail to produce or process growth hormone.

It occurs naturally in the body and is actually produced as a result of the increased presence of human growth hormone, one of the performance enhancers allegedly used by cyclist Lance Armstrong.

Dozens of websites advertise deer antler spray or pills with claims of delivering IGF-1 and subsequent benefits like muscle growth and increased energy. But Dean Nieves of Florida-based Bio Lab Naturals said it is disingenuous to make such claims.

“IGF-1 is very unstable,” said Nieves, whose company sells the spray under the Bio Protein Technology brand. “It could not exist outside of a very controlled environment. And when you order bottles of deer antler extract, it's not coming in a freeze-dried case.”

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This has been posted numerous times, but Bama haters seem to still think Bama was cheating.

Fact is, the stuff they bought is a complete scam. Did they get any gains from it? Doubtful, but if they did, it was solely due to thinking they were on something.....placebo effect. Or simply increasing their training, eating, etc.

There are literally tons of doctors laughing at the entire notion put forth by SI with this story. Just this morning, there were 2 on the radio just saying how stupid it is to even give this antler spray BS the time of day.

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Who? Me or the numerous doctors in the field of HGH that also say deer antler's claim of IGF delivery is a complete lie?

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This has been posted numerous times, but Bama haters seem to still think Bama was cheating.

Fact is, the stuff they bought is a complete scam. Did they get any gains from it? Doubtful, but if they did, it was solely due to thinking they were on something.....placebo effect. Or simply increasing their training, eating, etc.

There are literally tons of doctors laughing at the entire notion put forth by SI with this story. Just this morning, there were 2 on the radio just saying how stupid it is to even give this antler spray BS the time of day.

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You know how it goes. Some butt hurt posters are posting stuff to get a rise out of Alabama fans. Some of the really mad posters actually believe something will come out of this and they will end up dissapointed as usual.

Really no different than the tin foil hat wearing guys who follow every story about a rival program and look for clues to piece it together.

Really sad stuff

Dog during deer antler eating program.



Same dog after 90 days. Results show a COMPLETELY different dog.

ROFL....

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Dog during deer antler eating program.

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No wonder our guys are so much bigger and better than everyone else. And I thought it was our recruiting and coaching. Dang!

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I'm not trying to flame Bama fans at all. Im just interested in the legitimacy of these guys products, or if they are laced with other products or if they are just giving a placebo effect.

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Have you actually read the SI article in it's entirety? If you haven't, I suggest you read it and I believe you will come to your own conclusions even if you don't have a phd.

SWAT owners are nothing more than con-artists that don't have any respect for athletes. They are out to make a buck off of quack products, that have no scientific validity.

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Is this shite not regulated at all? So they are not on the hook for what they say is in it?

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you can buy about a hundred different brands on Amazon, so Id say it false under the nautural supplement catagory.

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Excuse my ignorance, but does this make it regulated or not regulated?

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As much as Ginko, Ginseng, etc..., somewhat but not really at all

ETA,
Regulated as food, nut drugs

ITAT has sent the NCAA the deer horn that CNS made his first team players chew on during the championship years. 2010 was the only year the bone was not used. When asked why it wasn't used that year Saban said Scott Cochrine misplaced the bone. He also made Scott run stadium steps when he found out about the missing bone. (The bone was found in Mark Ingrams locker under some old jocks.)
It is unknown how NTY got The Bone out of the Paul Bryant Muesum . The school has no commit. The NCAA is quoted as saying that they will have more to say in 3weeks.
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