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CoonassBulldog 
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| re: Chris Wilson and Les Koenning Out (Posted on 1/3/13 at 10:42 am to Al Bundy Bulldog)
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Friends yes, but not as close as you make. You may be a little surprised when Hev gets the axe (if my source is right)
well, I tweeted Les was gone right after the bowl game. That's been the word for a month. Same with Melvin. I havent heard 1 word mentioned about Hevesy
But I also didnt hear that Collins was going to make the defensive calls before the bowl game either- so ya never know
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Requiem For A Dawg 
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| re: Chris Wilson and Les Koenning Out (Posted on 1/3/13 at 10:44 am to jumbo)
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getting rid of Wilson would be a tremendous blow to recruiting
You can't keep a coordinator just bc of his recruiting value. A position coach? Yes. A coordinator? No.
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Requiem For A Dawg
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| re: Chris Wilson and Les Koenning Out (Posted on 1/3/13 at 10:45 am to Al Bundy Bulldog)
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(if my source is right)
Oh shite. You PM'n 7dust again?
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17theBears
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| re: Chris Wilson and Les Koenning Out (Posted on 1/3/13 at 11:09 am to Requiem For A Dawg)
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Cdawg
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| re: Chris Wilson and Les Koenning Out (Posted on 1/3/13 at 11:14 am to Requiem For A Dawg)
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Oh shite. You PM'n 7dust again?
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jumbo
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| re: Chris Wilson and Les Koenning Out (Posted on 1/3/13 at 11:26 am to Requiem For A Dawg)
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You can't keep a coordinator just bc of his recruiting value. A position coach? Yes. A coordinator? No.
If it means losing Chris Jones, I think you can
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Eric Nies Grind Time 
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| re: Chris Wilson and Les Koenning Out (Posted on 1/3/13 at 11:27 am to Requiem For A Dawg)
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MaroonNation
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| re: Chris Wilson and Les Koenning Out (Posted on 1/3/13 at 2:19 pm to jumbo)
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If it means losing Chris Jones, I think you can
Please tell me you have no aspirations of coaching
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17theBears
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| re: Chris Wilson and Les Koenning Out (Posted on 1/3/13 at 2:25 pm to MaroonNation)
Say what you want, but I don't want Wilson fired.
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ChargerDog91
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| re: Chris Wilson and Les Koenning Out (Posted on 1/3/13 at 2:37 pm to 17theBears)
I'd say demote him to just DL coach and let him keep the Co-DC title and let Collins call plays.
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Tds & Beer
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| re: Chris Wilson and Les Koenning Out (Posted on 1/3/13 at 2:46 pm to ChargerDog91)
I say keep everything the same until Feb and then fire whoever the hell we want. Choo Choo.
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Requiem For A Dawg
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| re: Chris Wilson and Les Koenning Out (Posted on 1/3/13 at 3:09 pm to ChargerDog91)
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I'd say demote him to just DL coach and let him keep the Co-DC title and let Collins call plays.
No way he's accept this demotion. He's start looking around (rumor is, he already is).
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Requiem For A Dawg
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| re: Chris Wilson and Les Koenning Out (Posted on 1/3/13 at 3:09 pm to Tds & Beer)
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I say keep everything the same until Feb and then fire whoever the hell we want. Choo Choo.
The only way to do it imo
This post was edited on 1/3 at 3:10 pm
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Hardy_Har
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| re: Chris Wilson and Les Koenning Out (Posted on 1/3/13 at 3:14 pm to Tds & Beer)
Collins is to Wilson what he was to Diaz, right? Everyone bolstered Wilson after the Manny departure. He really hasn't done anything better or worse.. The real problem is the deteriorating Offense IMO. After seeing Les call some plays 3 times in a row in damn near EVERY game this year it's getting old.. Anybody remember Russell trying back to back QB sneaks in the 2nd Qtr of the LSU game? WTF?? Les doesn't adjust to defensive changes or lopsided matchups well.. Just saying.. Offense is 80% of the problem right now..
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deltaland
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| re: Chris Wilson and Les Koenning Out (Posted on 1/3/13 at 3:51 pm to Hardy_Har)
I think we should keep Wilson 1 more year. His defense wasn't too bad in 2011. 2012 it was but I think that had more to do with Dline not living up to expectations. We have some very good Dline talent coming up and I think he deserves one more chance.
I think we should just promote Collins to be more involved with play calling as a Co DC.
We cannot afford to lose Chris Jones to OM either. We already likely lost Kailo. That would look bad on us and OM has enough momentum right now, plus I don't want to hear more of their shite.
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17theBears
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| re: Chris Wilson and Les Koenning Out (Posted on 1/3/13 at 3:54 pm to deltaland)
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I think we should keep Wilson 1 more year. His defense wasn't too bad in 2011. 2012 it was but I think that had more to do with Dline not living up to expectations. We have some very good Dline talent coming up and I think he deserves one more chance.
My thoughts exactly.
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CoonassBulldog
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| re: Chris Wilson and Les Koenning Out (Posted on 1/3/13 at 4:01 pm to deltaland)
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We cannot afford to lose Chris Jones to OM either.
It's not even a contest. Jones is a dawg. He is surrounded in Houston by State people.
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Al Bundy Bulldog
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| re: Chris Wilson and Les Koenning Out (Posted on 1/3/13 at 5:19 pm to 17theBears)
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Say what you want, but I don't want Wilson fired.
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MaroonNation
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| re: Chris Wilson and Les Koenning Out (Posted on 1/3/13 at 6:31 pm to deltaland)
Please tell me no one on here was posting to keep Carl Torbush just one more year...
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MaroonNation
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| re: Chris Wilson and Les Koenning Out (Posted on 1/3/13 at 6:31 pm to CoonassBulldog)
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It's not even a contest. Jones is a dawg. He is surrounded in Houston by State people.
Well there goes the kiss o' death.
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