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Corey Lemonier a projected 1ST ROUNDER by McShay?!?!

Posted on 12/15/12 at 10:15 pm
Posted by thirdlawson
Nashville
Member since Oct 2011
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Posted on 12/15/12 at 10:15 pm
quote:

The Ravens would continue a youth movement on defense with this pick. Lemonier might not come off the board this high, but he's an underrated prospect who played hard all season long on a bad defense. He's versatile and tough, has explosive upfield burst, closes quickly and shows some pop at the point of attack.


Meh...Maybe.

LINK
Posted by Rig
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Posted on 12/15/12 at 10:16 pm to
Woah.
Posted by WarSlamEagle
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Posted on 12/15/12 at 10:18 pm to
This is one he'll get completely wrong. Second rounder at best.
Posted by GenesChin
The Promise Land
Member since Feb 2012
37855 posts
Posted on 12/15/12 at 10:20 pm to
quote:

he's an underrated prospect who played hard all season long on a bad defense


I know for a fact that isn't true. Well known amongst guys on the team he packed it in to not risk getting hurt.

He also wants to put in10-15 pounds/graduate so I doubt he leaves because McShay's dumbass projects him that high
Posted by Weagle25
THE Football State.
Member since Oct 2011
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Posted on 12/15/12 at 10:44 pm to
McShay knows a lot better than us when Lemonier will get drafted. So calling him a dumbass is just stupid. To be a first rounder all you need is one team to like you. Maybe Mcshay knows the Ravens really like him. It's not that outlandish to project him as first rounder anyways.
Posted by Ross
Member since Oct 2007
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Posted on 12/15/12 at 11:24 pm to
Emory Blake told my roommate there is no chance Lemonier leaves.
Posted by GenesChin
The Promise Land
Member since Feb 2012
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Posted on 12/15/12 at 11:25 pm to
quote:

Emory Blake told my roommate there is no chance Lemonier leaves.


People I know who are good friends with Corey have said that his parents are pushing him hard to graduate. He also believes his draft stock will rise if he can get up to 255+ LBs
Posted by Lee County Tiger
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Posted on 12/16/12 at 8:49 am to
McShay is one of the least respected draft people by NFL scouts. They feel he hasn't done anything to earn his job with ESPN, and that he's more right than wrong most of the time
Posted by achamb7
Lenoir City, TN
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Posted on 12/16/12 at 9:44 am to
^^^ Isn't the point to be more right than wrong most of the time?
Posted by Lee County Tiger
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Posted on 12/16/12 at 10:49 am to
Reverse the right and wrong parts. I can be slightly dyslexic sometimes, especially when I'm hungover
Posted by beatbammer
Member since Sep 2010
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Posted on 12/16/12 at 11:23 am to
So Corey "played hard all season"?

McShay must not have gone to all the games that I went to.
Posted by Weagle25
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Posted on 12/16/12 at 11:45 am to
quote:

McShay is one of the least respected draft people by NFL scouts. They feel he hasn't done anything to earn his job with ESPN, and that he's more right than wrong most of the time

I doubt the NFL scouts really care about Mcshay. And how would you know what the NFL scouts think? Mcshay has been right a lot more often than Kiper. People like to look at just the wrong picks these guys make and assume they don't know anything when in reality they don't get that much wrong.
Posted by thirdlawson
Nashville
Member since Oct 2011
9449 posts
Posted on 12/16/12 at 11:58 am to
Yeah, McShay is pretty good...and to Corey's credit, 6'4" 250 lbs is the perfect size for a 3-4 pass rushing OLB...i can see him going high. The Jets may reach for him at 15 as well
Posted by Lee County Tiger
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Posted on 12/16/12 at 12:33 pm to
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I doubt the NFL scouts really care about Mcshay. And how would you know what the NFL scouts think? Mcshay has been right a lot more often than Kiper. People like to look at just the wrong picks these guys make and assume they don't know anything when in reality they don't get that much wrong.




Do I personally know it? No.


2 year old link, but breaks down NFL's Scouts thoughts on McShay


ETA: Another Old Link


Pretty much, what these two articles are implying though is that players and families have listened to McShay, namely QBs, and McShay has said that they are great players and oversells them and makes players and their families think they will be drafted higher than Pro Scouts are evaluating them at. So some come out early when they shouldn't, because that's what they've heard on ESPN, and thusly end up falling in the draft and often times washing out from the league in general.




Could Corey be a first rounder? Absolutely. He's got the talent and the ability to play. But it would serve him better IMO to stick around one more year and prove to NFL Scouts that he won't just "pack it in" in the middle of the season.


Granted, I wouldn't blame him though if he did go, since he's going to be a Senior, and dealing with an entire new coaching staff for one year is something a lot of players don't want to do.
This post was edited on 12/16/12 at 12:40 pm
Posted by diddydirtyAubie
Bozeman
Member since Dec 2010
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Posted on 12/16/12 at 12:35 pm to
quote:

and that he's more right than wrong most of the time


Posted by plazadweller
South Georgia
Member since Jul 2011
12422 posts
Posted on 12/16/12 at 12:40 pm to
quote:

People are inclined to believe him, including prospects like apparently Jevan Snead, who according to PFT's source based his decision to turn pro partially on McShay's draft grade for him.


Posted by Lee County Tiger
I Haz Sources
Member since Oct 2009
33357 posts
Posted on 12/16/12 at 12:40 pm to
Like I said, dyslexic hungover. Not a good combo
Posted by AU_RX
City of St George
Member since May 2005
4564 posts
Posted on 12/16/12 at 12:42 pm to
McShay only smokes the stickiest of the icky.

Lemonier still has a lot to prove. Needs to bulk up and show more consistency.
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