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Recruiting for Next UT Coach--Not a Flame

Posted on 12/6/12 at 8:34 pm
Posted by KnoxvilleBerryTiger
Member since Mar 2006
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Posted on 12/6/12 at 8:34 pm
I moved to Knoxville around the year we beat them for the SEC title, and knocked UT out of a 2nd shot at a national championship. In those days we were out of our league against the Vols. They recruited nationally, and Saban hoped to put up a fence around the boot. And he did. And Tennessee started losing to Florida, and Georgia, and SC, and Bama, and kept losing to LSU. And the wheels fell off. And now they lose to Vandy and Kentucky.

And they still have to recruit nationally due to lack of in state talent. The problem is there are multiple top 5, top 10, and top 20 SEC schools at this time. Whereas Florida will get theirs in state, as will A and M, BAMA, LSU, and UGA, that is not an option for UT on a large scale. And even the Barret Jones, Golden Tates, and future stars like Jalen Hurd leave their great state to play elsewhere.

And Vandy's rising. Yeah, that happened. I live in Hndersonville, and can't believe what Franklin has accomplished in short order.

It takes more than good facilities, loyal fans and a rich tradition to win. You have to be able to recruit. It's almost as thought the rug has been pulled out from the Big Orange. As they faltered, others capitalized, and they played for keeps.

What coach would want to come dig out of this hole? That's a tall order for the 4th coach in <10 yrs.

If they don't get someone who can recruit well, the losing will continue.





Posted by Crompdaddy8
Jimmy Rustler
Member since Nov 2009
10569 posts
Posted on 12/6/12 at 8:36 pm to
when has recruiting ever been a problem for Tennessee?
Posted by volfan30
Member since Jun 2010
41214 posts
Posted on 12/6/12 at 8:37 pm to
There are tons of horror stories about Dooley and his inability to recruit and he was still able to pull in 10-15th ranked classes every year.

Recruiting isn't/hasn't been the problem.
Posted by KnoxvilleBerryTiger
Member since Mar 2006
3412 posts
Posted on 12/6/12 at 8:41 pm to
If you want to return to being a top 10 program, it's a problem now.
Posted by KnoxvilleBerryTiger
Member since Mar 2006
3412 posts
Posted on 12/6/12 at 8:44 pm to
They are #24 on rivals currently, behind Virginia, and Ole MIss. And Vandy,# 14.
Posted by Supravol22
Member since Jan 2011
14514 posts
Posted on 12/6/12 at 8:44 pm to
Dooley was a retard and he still brought in top 15 classes. Recruiting is not our problem, coaching is
Posted by Crompdaddy8
Jimmy Rustler
Member since Nov 2009
10569 posts
Posted on 12/6/12 at 8:45 pm to
rivals.com Alabama recruiting rankings during dark years (30-20 record)
2002 #30
2003 #49
2004 #24
2005 #18

rivals.com Tennessee recruiting rankings during dark years (23-27 record)
2009 #10
2010 #9
2011 #13
2012 #17
Posted by Crompdaddy8
Jimmy Rustler
Member since Nov 2009
10569 posts
Posted on 12/6/12 at 8:46 pm to
quote:

They are #24 on rivals currently


we should be #100 right now. this is a tough time and UT doesn't even have a fricking coach
Posted by VAvolfan
Member since Feb 2010
2368 posts
Posted on 12/6/12 at 8:46 pm to
quote:

They are #24 on rivals currently, behind Virginia, and Ole MIss. And Vandy,# 14.


Yea thats to be expected when you're coach nose dives in the last two months of the season and gets canned. We still don't have a replacement.
Posted by WDE85
Member since Nov 2012
2161 posts
Posted on 12/6/12 at 8:49 pm to
Ha, if recruiting translated to good football we would be a top 10 team! Get yourself a man who can coach, not just recruit.
Posted by bigDgator
Dallas, TX
Member since Oct 2008
50163 posts
Posted on 12/6/12 at 8:52 pm to
Any word on who may be next?
Posted by KnoxvilleBerryTiger
Member since Mar 2006
3412 posts
Posted on 12/6/12 at 8:53 pm to
You need both. Good coaching, AND good recruiting.
Tennessee has 6 players from Tennessee right now.
They have a handful of 4 stars. How many will decommit?

LSU has 11 from Louisiana with others still on the board.

Finishing 15th or lower in recruiting repeatedly will not serve a team well in the SEC.

This post was edited on 12/6/12 at 8:56 pm
Posted by Crompdaddy8
Jimmy Rustler
Member since Nov 2009
10569 posts
Posted on 12/6/12 at 8:54 pm to
quote:

They are #24 on rivals currently


so currently UT is in a normal state firing on all cylinders. and #24 recruiting ranking is the norm and the best UT could ever hope for. gotcha.
Posted by KnoxvilleBerryTiger
Member since Mar 2006
3412 posts
Posted on 12/6/12 at 9:00 pm to
there are 9 SEC schools ahead of them.
That's a problem if I am a Rocky Top fan.
Posted by Crompdaddy8
Jimmy Rustler
Member since Nov 2009
10569 posts
Posted on 12/6/12 at 9:02 pm to
again currently UT is in a normal state firing on all cylinders. 9 SEC schools ahead of UT is the norm. UT just had a magnificent run of 3 straight losing seasons and doesn't even have a coach.
Posted by volfan30
Member since Jun 2010
41214 posts
Posted on 12/6/12 at 9:02 pm to
Tennessee had a lame duck coach for almost 365 days. Since he was let go, we have not had a coach at all.

Is that 24th ranking supposed to mean something?
Posted by tatervol
Lexington, TN
Member since Nov 2008
2214 posts
Posted on 12/6/12 at 9:04 pm to
We don't have a coach right now and just had our third consecutive losing season and we are at #24. Think about that and see if you understand it.
Posted by KnoxvilleBerryTiger
Member since Mar 2006
3412 posts
Posted on 12/6/12 at 9:06 pm to
The norm relative to what?

I started my post stating they were ready to play for MNC #2. Were they hauling in lower than top 20 classes then? I don't know because I didn't follow recruiting then.

In those years after that letdown SECCG, Fulmer pulled in top 5 classes, with a number 1 if I remember right.

With all the uncertainty, I wouldn't be surprised to see their ranking fall.
Posted by Supravol22
Member since Jan 2011
14514 posts
Posted on 12/6/12 at 9:09 pm to
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Any word on who may be next?



Butch Jones, probably tomorrow
Posted by tatervol
Lexington, TN
Member since Nov 2008
2214 posts
Posted on 12/6/12 at 9:10 pm to
You're trolling right? Kiffen brought in a top ten class 4 years ago
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