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Sad realization I've come to

Posted on 12/5/12 at 10:40 pm
Posted by Bryant91092
Member since Dec 2009
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Posted on 12/5/12 at 10:40 pm
I've come to the sad realization that whether it's Grant, Gottfried, or whoever our coach may be, our basketball program will never be anything but average. We do the same shite every year no matter who is our coach. I don't want to believe it, but I don't think we'll ever be anything more than average.This isn't a one game over reaction. It's just me separating myself from the extreme love and fandom I have for Bama and seeing us for what we are. It's really crushing and deflating to feel like this.
This post was edited on 12/5/12 at 10:44 pm
Posted by East Coast Band
Member since Nov 2010
66950 posts
Posted on 12/5/12 at 10:48 pm to
Bama has a great assortment of players this year, yet will still will consistently barf up bad games.


The one good thing about basketball, as long as you're playing hot in February /March, it won't matter much what happens in November /December.

only if you tank it late in the season do you look to hang your NCAA resume on some early season wins.
Posted by sarc
Member since Mar 2011
9997 posts
Posted on 12/5/12 at 10:49 pm to
Having at least 1 really great shooter would make a huge difference IMO. Would've made a huge difference last year too. Hard to beat good teams when you don't have anyone that's just a great natural shooter.
Posted by Bryant91092
Member since Dec 2009
25658 posts
Posted on 12/5/12 at 10:52 pm to
Like I said guys, this isn't just related to this season or this team. It's taking a look at the whole history of our program. Even our best Wimp teams couldn't get over the hump. Our program is equivalent to Mississippi State football. We just can't do whatever is necessary to take that leap for whatever reason.
Posted by BigBird09
Member since May 2012
6085 posts
Posted on 12/5/12 at 11:00 pm to
We have a couple of those this year, but everyone has off-nights. Post-play and a lack of an offense is what's killing us. Grant HAS to hire a coach to run the offense. I thought he would open up the offense once we loosened up the zones, but that clearly isn't happening. I still believe Grant has us going in the right direction, he just needs some help. I thought we would lose this one, but I also thought we would win at Cincy and VCU, and with Gueye and Engstrom both possibly done, this might be a very rough year.
Posted by bona fide
Burma
Member since Jun 2010
8972 posts
Posted on 12/5/12 at 11:03 pm to
quote:

Even our best Wimp teams couldn't get over the hump.


Depends on your definition of "hump". I believe they were a very successful program under Wimp, being mentioned for National Titles possibilities was not uncommon. Tournament basketball is cruel(except for the truly elite, Duke etc), one bad call or missed shot can ruin a great season. I think I remember Bama being top three or so with players in NBA, also was top three or so in consecutive sweet 16 appearances at the time.

I only dream of having those types of teams now.
Posted by CapstoneGrad06
Little Rock
Member since Nov 2008
73409 posts
Posted on 12/5/12 at 11:05 pm to
quote:

Our program is equivalent to Mississippi State football.


More like Georgia football minus the 1980 title. Or maybe Clemson football minus the 1981 title.
Posted by sarc
Member since Mar 2011
9997 posts
Posted on 12/5/12 at 11:15 pm to
quote:

We have a couple of those this year


We have a couple guys who will get hot from 3 every few games, but we don't have anyone who can consistently knock down a mid-range jump shot. Makes us a much easier team to defend.

As for the state/future of the program...
Posted by Bryant91092
Member since Dec 2009
25658 posts
Posted on 12/5/12 at 11:15 pm to
I mean get over the hump as in elite 8s and final 4s. As good as Wimp was, his teams couldn't do it. I know tournament basketball is fickle, but even he couldn't get us to the promise land. It just sucks. I love basketball more than football, but I've never lost all hope in ever being a great program until now. In the back of my mind, I hope one day we'll be a Florida or Ohio State type program.
Posted by Robot Santa
Member since Oct 2009
46377 posts
Posted on 12/5/12 at 11:17 pm to
quote:

Grant HAS to hire a coach to run the offense.


This x100000000

Our defensive and offensive philosophies don't mesh at all. If you are going to be a pressing team you also need to be a running team on offense. If you are going to be a half court oriented offense you need to slow the game down on both sides and make the other team play that way too. Right now we are playing the high risk/high reward game on D, but staying extremely conservative on O. Now with Gueye and Carl possibly out for the year, we won't be able to survive playing slow.
Posted by RollTide1987
Baltimore, MD
Member since Nov 2009
71294 posts
Posted on 12/5/12 at 11:26 pm to
Is it basketball season already?

Posted by BigBird09
Member since May 2012
6085 posts
Posted on 12/5/12 at 11:30 pm to
Seriously? Fans like you is why our program goes nowhere.
This post was edited on 12/5/12 at 11:30 pm
Posted by Bryant91092
Member since Dec 2009
25658 posts
Posted on 12/5/12 at 11:31 pm to
quote:

RollTide1987



frick you
Posted by RollTide1987
Baltimore, MD
Member since Nov 2009
71294 posts
Posted on 12/5/12 at 11:36 pm to


Sorry. I couldn't resist.

The season's young. Settle down.

Posted by bona fide
Burma
Member since Jun 2010
8972 posts
Posted on 12/5/12 at 11:39 pm to
Well back to your OP..... I think Bama has the ability to be a contending program again. I also think it will more difficult for them now than in earlier eras.

CBB, like CFB is all about coaching imo. Get the great coach and hold on to him, the program succeed. I'm talking about top 12 type teams yearly type of stuff, not Duke, UNC level. If Bama can field top 12 type teams each year, they tourney deep runs will happen.

Posted by BigBird09
Member since May 2012
6085 posts
Posted on 12/5/12 at 11:43 pm to
Real funny, jackass.
Posted by JDM1992
In your head
Member since Dec 2011
15141 posts
Posted on 12/5/12 at 11:44 pm to
This post was edited on 2/17/13 at 8:37 pm
Posted by bona fide
Burma
Member since Jun 2010
8972 posts
Posted on 12/5/12 at 11:44 pm to
Concerning this year's team, besides the "coaching issues" and now injury problems, Bama needs a leader(s) on the court. I thought that guy would be Steele but....
Posted by Bryant91092
Member since Dec 2009
25658 posts
Posted on 12/5/12 at 11:46 pm to
quote:

I just don't get disappointed over losses anymore



I teeter the line between sadness and meltdown when we lose games like this. Way too invested into it but oh well.
Posted by RollTide4Ever
Nashville
Member since Nov 2006
20179 posts
Posted on 12/5/12 at 11:49 pm to
Next year is THE year.
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