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re: SEC Expanding to 16 teams by Jan 1 2013???

Posted on 12/3/12 at 9:37 pm to
Posted by Gray Tiger
Prairieville, LA
Member since Jan 2004
36512 posts
Posted on 12/3/12 at 9:37 pm to
quote:

substitute another team for Georgia, who belongs with Florida....

another division, LSU, TAM, Ole Miss and MSU....


The thinking at the SEC office is that the world would end if Georgia and Auburn and Alabama and Tennessee don't play every year which is why I put them together. Right now the rest of the SEC teams have to jump through a hoop to satisfy those sacred rivalries.
That scheme keeps Ole Miss and MSU, together.
Other rivalries will form. Right now I can get more excited about playing aTM than Ole Miss.
More conference games and fewer rent-a-wins mean bigger crowds.
Posted by Tiger Authority
Member since Jul 2007
29476 posts
Posted on 12/3/12 at 9:38 pm to
quote:

Hearing the same thing.

LSU will play Va Tech

Bama will play NC State





Posted by Lonnie Utah
Utah!
Member since Jul 2012
23852 posts
Posted on 12/3/12 at 9:43 pm to
quote:

And CU and FSU fit in the SEC much better than VT and NCSU, Mizzou, but it's all about geography.


Nope. Its all about TV sets and CU and FSU dont bring enough to the party....
Posted by 1fairbank
Smells Funny
Member since Sep 2011
1374 posts
Posted on 12/3/12 at 9:49 pm to
Divisions based on geographical locations? frick that, we're doing the Leaders/Legends thing.
Here's how I see it.

Murder Division
LSU
TAMU
UF
UGA
USCe
VTech
Arky

Bama Strolls Division
Bama
*everyone else*
Posted by Jim Rockford
Member since May 2011
98128 posts
Posted on 12/3/12 at 9:51 pm to
Bama's division will include Vandy and Kentucky. LSU's division will include A&M and Auburn. Bet the farm on it.

Posted by silverthorn
Fort Collins, CO
Member since Nov 2011
724 posts
Posted on 12/3/12 at 10:13 pm to
quote:

UF will not allow FSU to be admitted to The SEC.


quote:

They can't block it on their own. They need to get 2 other schools to vote against it.



UGA, USCe, and UF all have an agreement to block FSU, Ga Tech, and Clemson from ever joining the SEC
Posted by blackjackjackson
fourth dimension
Member since May 2008
7674 posts
Posted on 12/3/12 at 10:15 pm to
quote:

Um, no...the Pac-12 has no interest in private schools much less Christian ones.

usc is an old time methodist u.
Posted by tigerfan84
Member since Dec 2003
20212 posts
Posted on 12/3/12 at 10:23 pm to
I wonder if Miami & BC stay in ACC
Posted by will0637
Austin, TX
Member since Dec 2006
410 posts
Posted on 12/3/12 at 10:25 pm to
SEC will not add another team from SC. Small state and Clemson doesnt have much of a national following to draw ratings. Expansion is about TV markets. The SEC would want to add FSU, UNC, NCSU, UVA, or VT. FL is a huge with 4 times the population of SC. NC and VA allow the SEC to get into new states. GT doesnt really add much TV wise with UGA in the SEC
This post was edited on 12/3/12 at 10:26 pm
Posted by tigermike5
Member since Mar 2006
1277 posts
Posted on 12/3/12 at 10:33 pm to
i think north carolina is number 1 choice for the sec. but nothing will happen if maryland cant get out of having to pay the 50 million dollar buyout.
Posted by shawnlsu
Member since Nov 2011
23682 posts
Posted on 12/3/12 at 10:37 pm to
I'm hearing from the AD that La Tech has called CUSA and told them they won't be joining next year due to deserving to be in the SEC and a phone call from who sounded like a kid but claimed to be a SEC official
Posted by Goldfinger
Port Aransas
Member since Mar 2007
390 posts
Posted on 12/3/12 at 11:00 pm to
Adding more teams will break the sec and dilute what has become the most dominating match ups.Anyone who thinks breaking the sec into 4 divisions will be a good thing is smoking the wrong shite. Who the hell wants to play vt or nc state.Stupid shite.... Sec needs to focus on maintating their dominace not diluting it.
Posted by LSUSkip
Central, LA
Member since Jul 2012
17525 posts
Posted on 12/3/12 at 11:36 pm to
VT and NCST could field good teams within 3 years. I like the VT add and I understand the NCST add even though I don't like it.
Posted by TutHillTiger
Mississippi Alabama
Member since Sep 2010
43700 posts
Posted on 12/3/12 at 11:52 pm to
We need to pursue all of our options including leaving the SEC for the big 12 and do what is in our (LSUs) best interest. frick bama and their home cooking refs and schedule makers. frick them and let's look around for greener fields. Would it not be nice to only have to play those pricks once a decade with fair refs. If we don't consider leaving we will be forced to be their lapdogs and I think we are all tired of that. If we left Florida would geaux too. They have been thinking about it for years. If we all left for big 12 together with Florida state we would be better off
This post was edited on 12/3/12 at 11:54 pm
Posted by LSUSkip
Central, LA
Member since Jul 2012
17525 posts
Posted on 12/4/12 at 12:18 am to
VT and NCST could field good teams within 3 years. I like the VT add and I understand the NCST add even though I don't like it.
Posted by sheek
The Woodlands, TX
Member since Sep 2007
43891 posts
Posted on 12/4/12 at 12:20 am to
The SEC could expand to 60 teams and I bet the 3rd Saturday in Oct stays in tact
Posted by CSATiger
The Battlefield
Member since Aug 2010
6220 posts
Posted on 12/4/12 at 1:42 am to
I do not want more expansion, I want the SEC to be an as exclusive group as possible. but wind ain't b;owing that way
Posted by molsusports
Member since Jul 2004
36105 posts
Posted on 12/4/12 at 2:09 am to
quote:

Four groups:

West - A
Bama
Ole Miss
Miss St
AU

West - B
LSU
Arky
TAMU
MO

East - A
UF
UGA
NC State
UK

East - B
VT
USC
Tenn
Vandy



NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

Switch Missouri for Ole Miss and then you have balance with the following added benefits:

1) LSU keeps Ole Miss on the schedule every year - Ole Miss is probably the closest thing to a traditional rivalry we have left
2) Ole Miss balances the divisions in a couple ways:
2A) The four weakest teams in the SEC are Vandy, KY, Ole Miss, and MSU. They need to be in four different divisions for competitive balance reasons (the same reason the Big 6 should be spread into different divisions)
2B) The traditional SEC teams need to be spread into different divisions so every division still resembles the SEC. What you have in the A&M, Arky, MO, LSU division is more like the Big 12 or SWC than the SEC
Posted by Geaux13
St. Amant
Member since Sep 2008
429 posts
Posted on 12/4/12 at 7:43 am to
[quote]Four groups:

West - A
Bama (TN)
Mizzou (A&M)
Miss St (OM)
AU (UGA)

West - B
LSU (UF)
Arky (USC)
TAMU (Mizzou)
Ole Miss (MS St)

East - A
UF (LSU)
UGA (AU)
NC State (VT)
UK (Vandy)

East - B
VT (NCST)
USC (Ark)
Tenn (Bama)
Vandy (UK)


Each team's perm opponent is in parentheses. Every 4 team subdivision plays all teams within and another full subdivision. That way we play UGA every 3 years, and at Athens every 6. That way every subdivision plays 7 common opponents. Winner of each division is decided by the 7 common opponents. So we don't have to worry about our LSU v. UF game costing us a shot at the SECCG while A&M Plays Mizzou.
Posted by ffishstik
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2007
4128 posts
Posted on 12/4/12 at 7:55 am to
That's similar to what I posted in the scheduling thread, but the permanent opponent piee has two flaws. First, on years where you're paired with the division of your permanent oponent, what do you do? Second, having a single "permanent opponent" defeats the puprpose of pairing divisions, which is that every team in the division pair plays the same schedule to get to the SECG.
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