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Posted on 11/28/12 at 12:33 pm to tiggerthetooth
Posted on 11/28/12 at 12:33 pm to tiggerthetooth
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So, wanting to make our primary in-state rival irrelevant on the recruiting stage is something we should be ashamed of?
Good grief you're ignorant
11 straight 10+ win seasons, 2005 MNC, 2009 MNCG appearance, been top 10 in recruiting for 5+ years, still recruit there despite the poor conference/seasonal record. A&M needs more than 1 season to actually overtake texas, and those seasons would probably have to include some sort of trophy of significance (conference or MNC) to really make a difference. I think you are jumping the gun for 1 single 10 win season as if thats some automatic ticket to all this future success. You forget, plenty of teams have won 10+ games in recent years expecting more success only to find themselves falling short in the next season.
A&M has excitement and positivity in its' fanbase right now, they are geared for all this success IF the trend continues, but its not as easy as you Aggie fans make it out to be with only won season of success.
If you believe this you have your head in the sand. A&M has ALL the momentum right now and is killing it in recruiting and in terms of hype. There was no better illustration than the joke of a Thanksgiving game Texas had where they not only got embarrassed by their new "rival" TCU (which last beat A&M 40 years ago) but more importantly that the stadium was at least 1/3rd empty. The end zones and 2nd deck at DKR looked like they needed a tarp and that was with Texas offering half price tickets like crazy. The ratings for their "big game" that your players "pitied A&M" for missing were also lower than Big Bang theory reruns shown at the same time. This wasn't a one time thing either, Texas had attendance issues all year. Sure, they had "official" attendance numbers that are still high but the underlying support of people actually SHOWING UP is dropping like a rock and there are huge concerns about season ticket renewals at Bellmont. The LHN is a disaster. You have a fair weathered fan base and they are dumping you just as they did in the '80s and '90s when A&M rolled off 10 of 11.
At the same time A&M has ridiculous momentum right now in every facet. We have a soon to be Freshman Heisman winner. We have probably the hottest coach in college football. We have 14 straight sellouts and are readying to break ground on a new stadium that will be over 100k capacity and be rivaled only by BDS when it is complete. We have disproven virtually every thing that was said about us in terms of our ability to compete in the SEC and will likely go into next season with a Preseason Top 5 schedule that lines up for a MNC run with 8 home games.
The real problem for Texas now though is the changes A&M has made are permanent. We will always be in a better conference. We will always play a better schedule. We will always be on TV more than you. Soon we will always make more money than Texas as well once the SEC Network and the new Kyle are in place. Texas is in deep shite and they are just now starting to realize it.
Oh, and to the OP there is no way in hell I would want to be back in the Big 12 and make more trips to Lubbock and Ames to play on a 1970s style TV broadcast. The SEC move is about the long term future of A&M having a chance to win multiple NC's not just one magical season.
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Posted on 11/28/12 at 12:38 pm to aggressor
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The real problem for Texas now though is the changes A&M has made are permanent. We will always be in a better conference. We will always play a better schedule. We will always be on TV more than you. Soon we will always make more money than Texas as well once the SEC Network and the new Kyle are in place. Texas is in deep shite and they are just now starting to realize it.
So the SEC will forever be the best conference? I don't see how you could possibly know that, but okay. A&M will also forever play a better schedule? Okay, fortune teller.
You'll make more money than Texas??? Really? And you figure how?
Texas makes more money than any other program in collegiate sports, and that is proven with real numbers.
Texas is panicking because they have had a TON of success over the last 15 years and they aren't having the success they are familiar with and they don't want to lose grip of the hold they have on the state.
This post was edited on 11/28/12 at 12:39 pm
Posted on 11/28/12 at 12:40 pm to BigBird09
Not one bit. SEC all the way.
Posted on 11/28/12 at 12:43 pm to aggressor
Richest football programs 2011
Texas DOUBLES A&M's profit.
ETA: And the Texas football program is also worth DOUBLE A&M.
Texas DOUBLES A&M's profit.
ETA: And the Texas football program is also worth DOUBLE A&M.
This post was edited on 11/28/12 at 12:56 pm
Posted on 11/28/12 at 12:45 pm to BigBird09
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This is a serious question and is by no means an intended flame or an attempt to rub it in, after-all y'all did kick our arse. But do y'all wish A&M would have stayed in the Big 12 one more year? Y'all might have been playing in the NC Game and that would have been one hell of a way to leave the Big 12 and stick it to the Horns.
No. Sticking it to the Horns wouldn't have been possible without the SEC. Success in the Big 12 would not marginalize them the way success in the SEC has.
Posted on 11/28/12 at 12:48 pm to WestCoastAg
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why do people keep saying this? we have a bad secondary that would get torn apart in the big 12. at least one or 2 teams would get us. wed have the same record that we do now
I disagree. We would fricking HANDLE K-State and no other Big 12 team would be able to come close to stopping our offense. There may be a few shootouts, but unlike in the La tech game, we wouldn't be missing 3-4 key defensive players.
Posted on 11/28/12 at 12:52 pm to KaiserSoze99
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because the SEC WANTS A&M (and all it's other members) to succeed. It only helps the entire league when every team succeeds
This is absolutely true. The thing that could've benefited the SEC the most from taking A&M is the Aggies having a great first year and the Longhorns wallowing in mediocrity. It's important for the SEC to have the premier program in battle ground states (Florida, South Carolina, Georgia, Texas) for recruiting, TV, etc. (money being the end result).
I don't think anybody expected A&M to be this good this year, even A&M fans. But the beauty of it is that it has benefited the SEC as we have the short-term perception of having the premier program in Texas as well. Longer term depends on A&M's success as well as their relative success to Texas. If they continue this success, a lot of the bandwagon Longhorn fans may start to think about maybe buying that maroon t-shirt, coozie, and cut-off denim vest at Wal-Mart rather than the burnt orange one. I've already said my peace about A&M's cultural fit or not (which eventually many Aggies ended up agreeing with) with the SEC, but money wise it was a good decision at the time and may end up being a great decision sooner than anybody thought.
All that being said, frick you gay bastards.
Posted on 11/28/12 at 12:55 pm to BigBird09
No.
Posted on 11/28/12 at 1:07 pm to tiggerthetooth
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So the SEC will forever be the best conference? I don't see how you could possibly know that, but okay. A&M will also forever play a better schedule? Okay, fortune teller.
You'll make more money than Texas??? Really? And you figure how?
Texas makes more money than any other program in collegiate sports, and that is proven with real numbers.
Texas is panicking because they have had a TON of success over the last 15 years and they aren't having the success they are familiar with and they don't want to lose grip of the hold they have on the state.
You just CANNOT hide your burnt-orange hue, can you?
It's not directly about your longhorns, sip. It's about not being able to keep A&M under your arse-plugging thumb. Read that "insider" quote. That definitely qualifies as a "statement against interest" to overcome any hearsay rule.
You can't effect "Aggy" success anymore and THAT is what scares the shite out of the butthurt burnt orange, not a relative lull in success.
Posted on 11/28/12 at 1:16 pm to TeLeFaWx
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No. Sticking it to the Horns wouldn't have been possible without the SEC. Success in the Big 12 would not marginalize them the way success in the SEC has.
Now this is revealing. It sounds like marginalizing Texas is the goal and you think that A&M has achieved that. Also, don't you think that beating Texas soundly and winning the Big 12 and playing ND for the MNC would go further to marginalize Texas than to crow about going 10-2, beating Bama, & playing in the Capital One Bowl?
Think about that for a second. Nobody on this board was alive the last time the words Texas A&M and National Championship were mentioned in the same sentence (unless they were talking about your stadium decorations).
My opinion - A&M would have had OU & KSU at home & beaten both. Most likely gone undefeated & would be playing for MNC.
Posted on 11/28/12 at 1:21 pm to Big12fan
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Now this is revealing. It sounds like marginalizing Texas is the goal and you think that A&M has achieved that.
Well, now it's no real secret that marginalizing A&M has been the goal all along. Dodds/Mack/Sips are just less willing to be covert about it.
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My opinion - A&M would have had OU & KSU at home & beaten both. Most likely gone undefeated & would be playing for MNC.
There is NO WAY Dodds/BigTwat would have allowed A&M to play in the MNC game. The longhorn-centric media would have downplayed A&M's success as "a down year for the Big 12" or JTaylor and the other longhorn zebras would have found a way to frick it up.
The whole "our schedule is full" bullshite from Droopy Dodds is NOTHING MORE than an attempt to marginalize A&M. Who is winning the marginalization game right now?
Posted on 11/28/12 at 1:24 pm to KaiserSoze99
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You just CANNOT hide your burnt-orange hue, can you?
It's not directly about your longhorns, sip. It's about not being able to keep A&M under your arse-plugging thumb. Read that "insider" quote. That definitely qualifies as a "statement against interest" to overcome any hearsay rule.
You can't effect "Aggy" success anymore and THAT is what scares the shite out of the butthurt burnt orange, not a relative lull in success.
I didn't realize Texas alone was preventing A&M from being successful. It's funny because even Texas Tech had a 10 win season during their time in Big 12. I guess big bad Texas didn't effect them. Didn't A&M go 7-6 last year? And they had losing seasons in 2008-2009? All I can figure is that Texas was good for 1 loss a year for the Aggies, but apparently they were somehow involved in 7 and 8 loss seasons.
Posted on 11/28/12 at 1:24 pm to tiggerthetooth
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So the SEC will forever be the best conference?
No, that's not what he said. What he did say was that the SEC will be a BETTER conference, which cannot be disproven.
Teams in the SEC with at least one national championship:
Alabama - 14 (2 BCS)
Tennessee - 6 (1 BCS)
Georgia - 5
Florida - 3 (2 BCS)
LSU - 3 (2 BCS)
Ole Miss - 3
Texas A&M - 3
Auburn - 2 (1 BCS)
Arkansas - 1
Kentucky - 1
Big 12 teams with at least one national championship:
Oklahoma - 7 (1 BCS)
Texas - 4 (1 BCS)
TCU - 2
Still can't spell "butthurt" without "BU", "TT", and "UT".
This post was edited on 11/28/12 at 1:25 pm
Posted on 11/28/12 at 1:25 pm to CGSC Lobotomy
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No, that's not what he said. What he did say was that the SEC will be a BETTER conference, which cannot be disproven.
No, that's not what he said. What he did say was that the SEC will ALWAYS be a BETTER conference.
Posted on 11/28/12 at 1:26 pm to relapse98
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We're where we belong now.
Let's not get ahead of ourselves...
Posted on 11/28/12 at 1:26 pm to tiggerthetooth
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What he did say was that the SEC will ALWAYS be a BETTER conference.
In the 80+ years of the SEC's existence, when has it not been a better conference than the SWC, Big 8, Big 12, or Big WTF?
Posted on 11/28/12 at 1:27 pm to aggressor
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The real problem for Texas now though is the changes A&M has made are permanent. We will always be in a better conference. We will always play a better schedule. We will always be on TV more than you. Soon we will always make more money than Texas as well once the SEC Network and the new Kyle are in place. Texas is in deep shite and they are just now starting to realize it.
This is the quote I am referencing.
Posted on 11/28/12 at 1:30 pm to CGSC Lobotomy
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In the 80+ years of the SEC's existence, when has it not been a better conference than the SWC, Big 8, Big 12, or Big WTF?
Plenty of years where it was debatable, and thats clearly an opinion and cannot be objectively evaluated as true or false. So why even bring it up?
Why even bring up that it will always be a better conference if you can't prove it? Are we arguing about future events now? Neither of us could say whether they are true or false with any proof.
Posted on 11/28/12 at 1:30 pm to tiggerthetooth
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I didn't realize Texas alone was preventing A&M from being successful.
I didn't say that. I said NOW YOU HAVE NO CONTROL. THAT is what scares the shite out of you longhorns. Read the fricking quote from "the longhorn insider." That's exactly what scares you buttpirates.
Posted on 11/28/12 at 1:33 pm to tiggerthetooth
We were stagnant in the b12. We needed something to change our perspective.
We fell into a role of mediocrity in the b12 and every year seemed like a self-fulfillment of that role.
While this year was great, being in a conference where the best football is played means all the games are interesting. The added personal stake is just icing.
We fell into a role of mediocrity in the b12 and every year seemed like a self-fulfillment of that role.
While this year was great, being in a conference where the best football is played means all the games are interesting. The added personal stake is just icing.
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