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re: A&M selling #2 jerseys, trademarking "Johnny Football"

Posted on 11/11/12 at 2:36 pm to
Posted by wdeinttown
Tuscaloosa
Member since Dec 2011
2976 posts
Posted on 11/11/12 at 2:36 pm to
I'm not saying people should be paid exactly what they bring in to the university. I'm saying they should be paid what they are worth. Manziel is worth far more than he is paid.
Posted by EKG
Houston, TX
Member since Jun 2010
43961 posts
Posted on 11/11/12 at 2:38 pm to
I don't disagree with you, wdeinttown.
Manziel is by no means the first, nor will he be the last athlete in such a situation.
He'll get his due. Of that I have zero doubt.
Posted by TheDrunkenTigah
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2011
17302 posts
Posted on 11/11/12 at 2:38 pm to
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Exactly. These kids don't realize how the real world works.


No, you have a shitty job. Big difference.
Posted by Tiger Authority
Member since Jul 2007
29476 posts
Posted on 11/11/12 at 2:39 pm to
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No, you have a shitty job. Big difference.





I have a very good job.
Posted by arrakis
Member since Nov 2008
21168 posts
Posted on 11/11/12 at 2:46 pm to
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I took it to mean the University would own the trademark so his eligibility would not be in jeopardy. I could be wrong, though.



The family will own the trademark and, if you look at the article reference, A&M will license it. If the Aggies jumped the family they will get sued....no way A&M can own it after he leaves school.
Posted by wdeinttown
Tuscaloosa
Member since Dec 2011
2976 posts
Posted on 11/11/12 at 2:55 pm to
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The family will own the trademark and, if you look at the article reference, A&M will license it. If the Aggies jumped the family they will get sued....no way A&M can own it after he leaves school.


Well, that's good.
Posted by CtotheVrzrbck
WeWaCo
Member since Dec 2007
37538 posts
Posted on 11/11/12 at 2:59 pm to
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The university isn't trademarking the moniker; the Manziel family is.


which will be a huge NCAA violation, and likely cost him his eligibility. I hope this goes into extreme litigation and gets some changes to the stranglehold the NCAA has and how they rob kids.

South Park's slavery spoof on EA and the NCAA was pretty close. I bet Ed O'Bannon is chomping at the bit to use whatever happens in his lawsuit. I hate Ed O'Bannon for being a bitch, but I do agree with his POV, it's too bad it's not a benevolent one with him, he's trying to get paid.
Posted by CGSC Lobotomy
Member since Sep 2011
79892 posts
Posted on 11/11/12 at 3:11 pm to
The whole point in trademarking it is not to profit from it...but to keep someone else from doing so.

There's no end to the number of shitheads who will try this in Texas, sell one shirt, then report it to the Dallas Morning News to get Manziel rendered ineligible and A&M in trouble with the NCAA again.

Do not underestimate the pettiness and spite possessed by sips, raiders, bears, and everyone else in Texas who hates the Aggies.
Posted by TeLeFaWx
Dallas, TX
Member since Aug 2011
29177 posts
Posted on 11/11/12 at 3:13 pm to
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Selling the #2 jersey is cool but trying to trademark Johnny Football is just wrong IMO.


It was a reactionary move. They've issued cease and desist for people making Johnny Football t shirts. I wouldn't want some random faceless entity making money off my child without my permission.
Posted by Sig
dallas
Member since Oct 2010
2035 posts
Posted on 11/11/12 at 3:16 pm to
CGSC is correct.. Doing this saves the family.. Allows us to print some new jerseys that EVERYONE wants. Seems like a win win.

Most important part though. Jason Cook is our Mississippi State Bulldog Marketing Guy... Dude has been one of the best things to ever happen to our marketing in my opinion.
Posted by Cooter Davenport
Austin, TX
Member since Apr 2012
9006 posts
Posted on 11/11/12 at 3:18 pm to
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The whole point in trademarking it is not to profit from it...but to keep someone else from doing so.


Exactly. I don't get why this is difficult to understand.

Right now, he can't make money off of his own nickname because of NCAA regs, so he and his family are supposed to just sit back while every two bit parking lot entrepreneur in Texas cranks out shirts with "Johnny Football" on them? Right now, he can't make money off of his own nickname because of NCAA regs, so he and his family are supposed to just sit back while their ability to profit from his nickname once he has exhuasted his eligibility is eroded by everyone freely using it to make money? They're trying to stop other people from profiting off of their son and they're going through licensing experts at the University in order to do that - I didn't realize that was so bad.

Neither the family nor the University are going to make money off of the Johnny Football name right now, but they have an interest in protecting it both now and for the future.

Sure, the University will sell #2 jerseys, all universities with a big-name player do that.
This post was edited on 11/11/12 at 3:23 pm
Posted by CtotheVrzrbck
WeWaCo
Member since Dec 2007
37538 posts
Posted on 11/11/12 at 3:20 pm to
LSU took a hit when they hired Matt Shanklin from Arkansas. Toonces will live forever!
Posted by SanDiegeauxSteve
The Greater San Diego Area
Member since Oct 2012
1751 posts
Posted on 11/11/12 at 9:32 pm to
Free enterprise system at its best! Go for it!
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