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Posted on 8/14/12 at 6:03 pm to Nuts4LSU
He also fails to mention that LSU throttled his beloved Oregon Ducks last year on a neutral site.....but hey, he is creating controversy to get noticed. Mission accomplished.
Posted on 8/14/12 at 6:03 pm to Nuts4LSU
He also fails to mention that LSU throttled his beloved Oregon Ducks last year on a neutral site.....but hey, he is creating controversy to get noticed. Mission accomplished.
Posted on 8/14/12 at 6:04 pm to Meaux Bettah
This guy accomplished his goal by getting you to post that link
Posted on 8/14/12 at 6:13 pm to DMagic
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SEC vs. PAC-12 regular season: 10-12
SEC vs. PAC-12 bowl games: 1-0
SEC vs. Big 12 regular season: 6-10
SEC vs. Big 12 bowl games: 21-8
SEC vs. ACC regular season: 42-36
SEC vs. ACC bowl games: 16-9
SEC vs. Big 10 regular season: 7-4
SEC vs. Big 10 bowl games: 19-19
SEC vs. Big East regular season: 16-15
SEC vs. Big East bowl game: 3-8
The record is clear. In head-to-head match-ups against other major conferences, the SEC has either a combined losing record or one that's generally only a little better than even.
This part of the article made me laugh. He is so butthurt mad. Its so "clear"
Posted on 8/14/12 at 6:27 pm to VC
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He also fails to mention that LSU throttled his beloved Oregon Ducks last year on a neutral site
And that game 8 months prior in Arizona
Posted on 8/14/12 at 6:33 pm to Meaux Bettah
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Meaux Bettah
Who's humping who in your avi?
Posted on 8/14/12 at 6:36 pm to Meaux Bettah
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BCS bowl record against the Big Ten at 19-19
Whut?
Highest Winning Percentages By Conference
Conference Percentage (Record)
Mountain West .750 (3-1)
Southeastern .696 (16-7)
Western Athletic .667 (2-1)
Pac-12 .611 (11-7)
Big East .500 (7-7)
Big Ten .480 (12-13)
Big 12 .474 (9-10)
Atlantic Coast .133 (2-13)
This post was edited on 8/14/12 at 6:37 pm
Posted on 8/14/12 at 6:37 pm to Meaux Bettah
He's from Baltimore, what would you expect?
Posted on 8/14/12 at 6:49 pm to Ghostfacedistiller
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"... and passing for a Pee Wee football-style 91 yards on nine total completions."
Not sure which game the author was attending, but AJ was 16/28 for 199 yards in the November meeting.
Posted on 8/14/12 at 9:11 pm to mtntiger
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Neither LSU in 2007 nor Auburn in 2010 was in the pre-season top 10
That's not true about 2007. LSU was No. 2 to start the year behind USC.
Auburn 2010 was in the 20s though.
Posted on 8/15/12 at 5:45 am to Ghostfacedistiller
quote:Probably was referring to LSU2003 where it would be true.
That's not true about 2007
Posted on 8/15/12 at 6:04 am to Behind The Ivy
quote:...and yet this is exactly what will happen, should you do as expected and beat Washington in Tiger Stadium. You'll use the same argument, just swap PAC for SEC.
you cant take the best of the PAC - 10 vs middle of the road SEC as a test of which conference is better. thats just a terrible test of conference strength.
It really doesn't matter so much anymore, since the BCS is doomed to history, but the reason I think that the SEC has done so well in that period is by playing one less conference game than the PAC, and substituting it with a CUSA/SunBelt or FCS opponent. It basically guarantees everyone in the conference one less loss, unless you really screw it up (UAB, ULM and almost Troy.)
The SEC gamed the system well. When playoffs are implemented, the SEC will be forced to add that 9th conference game or risk losing out on playoffs due to SoS.
This post was edited on 8/15/12 at 6:05 am
Posted on 8/15/12 at 6:05 am to VABuckeye
quote:Reference was to the SEC never playing "down" in the Bowls.
They were both 6-6 teams. How in the hell do you get Big Ten #3 out of that one?
NEVER.
No other league is asked to consistently play up in Bowl Games like that.
e.g., Gator is Big10 4/5 vs SEC 6.
So, let's theoretically reverse it.
What do you think the result of SEC 4/5 vs Big10 6 would be . . . . >90% of the time?
Without understanding the superiority of the SEC at present, one would presume 6 to 7 losses out of the list of 8 non-BCS bowl games the SEC plays in
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BOWL Match-ups
BBVA Compass SEC No. 8/9 vs. Big East No. 5/C-USA
Cotton Big 12 No. 2 vs. SEC
Outback Big Ten No. 3 vs. SEC
Gator Big Ten No. 4/5 vs. SEC No. 6
Capital One Big Ten No. 2 vs. SEC No. 2
Chick-fil-A ACC No. 2 vs. SEC No. 5
Liberty C-USA No. 1 vs. SEC No. 8/9
Independence SEC No. 10 vs. ACC No. 7
Posted on 8/15/12 at 7:11 am to NC_Tigah
When you strip away all the emotion, and God knows there is a lot of it from the constantly berated Southerners to the rest of the nation who is sick of the SEC hype on ESPN:
The one indisputable point is that in each of BCS championship games since 2005 until last year, the SEC's best defeated the team considered to be the rest of the nation's best...and it usually hasn't been that close. Last year is an exception, and understandably fuels the fire of people who feel the SEC gets too much credit, HOWEVER - nobody in the country doubted LSU's resume going into that final game. Nobody said, nor could say, that LSU had not proven themselves to be deserving both in AND out of conference. So if LSU was a proven BCS participant, then Alabama proved themselves by beating them (not to mention the crushing of Penn State).
I am willing to listen all day long about the favoritism of ESPN, and preferential treatment by the media. Frankly, I accept those arguments. But you can't then leap from the premise that the SEC gets favorable treatment to the ASSUMPTION that they are not deserving of the claim to be the best, by refusing to acknowledge the results on the field.
The one indisputable point is that in each of BCS championship games since 2005 until last year, the SEC's best defeated the team considered to be the rest of the nation's best...and it usually hasn't been that close. Last year is an exception, and understandably fuels the fire of people who feel the SEC gets too much credit, HOWEVER - nobody in the country doubted LSU's resume going into that final game. Nobody said, nor could say, that LSU had not proven themselves to be deserving both in AND out of conference. So if LSU was a proven BCS participant, then Alabama proved themselves by beating them (not to mention the crushing of Penn State).
I am willing to listen all day long about the favoritism of ESPN, and preferential treatment by the media. Frankly, I accept those arguments. But you can't then leap from the premise that the SEC gets favorable treatment to the ASSUMPTION that they are not deserving of the claim to be the best, by refusing to acknowledge the results on the field.
Posted on 8/15/12 at 7:54 am to Crimson Legend
You know what the SEC is getting favored treatment unitl the big 10 or anyother knocks the SEC off the mountain they will. We watched the Big 10 and Norte Dame rule college football for years for now it's the SEC. The media blow hards conviently forget that.
Posted on 8/15/12 at 8:10 am to TigerFanNKaty
I have to agree. Growing up watching the national sports media hang on the nuts of the Midwest, it's hard to feel too much sympathy for them as the SEC gets the spotlight.
Posted on 8/15/12 at 8:14 am to mtntiger
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Neither LSU in 2007 nor Auburn in 2010 was in the pre-season top 10
LSU was preseason #2 in 2007.
Posted on 8/15/12 at 8:22 am to loweralabamatrojan
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It really doesn't matter so much anymore, since the BCS is doomed to history, but the reason I think that the SEC has done so well in that period is by playing one less conference game than the PAC, and substituting it with a CUSA/SunBelt or FCS opponent. It basically guarantees everyone in the conference one less loss, unless you really screw it up (UAB, ULM and almost Troy.)
The SEC gamed the system well.
So, you're saying that SEC teams really weren't as good as their records and got into BCS bowls when they didn't deserve to, but wouldn't that make it likely that they'd fare poorly once they got into those games they didn't deserve? Yet, the SEC has the best record in BCS bowls of any AQ conference. This doesn't seem contradictory to you?
Posted on 8/15/12 at 8:25 am to Crimson Legend
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I have to agree. Growing up watching the national sports media hang on the nuts of the Midwest, it's hard to feel too much sympathy for them as the SEC gets the spotlight.
What's even funnier now is to hear Big Ten/Pac 12 fans lament the favorable treatment the SEC supposedly gets from the NCAA now too. These are 2 conferences (ESPECIALLY the Big Ten along with Notre Dame) that have benefitted from a good ole boy sacred cow status with the NCAA for decades. Now that it appears the SEC is receiving the benefit of the doubt and Big Ten schools are actually having to answer for their cheating instead of being given a complete free pass on it (Ohio State, Penn State, Michigan) they know where SEC fans have been coming from for the last 50+ years.
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