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Saban Advocates for New Pop Warner Rules
Posted on 6/13/12 at 5:46 pm
Posted on 6/13/12 at 5:46 pm
Pop Warner to limit practice contact
I'm all for keeping kids safe, but contact is part of the game. If it were anyone other than Saban, I'd think they were full of shite.
Since 70% of the players in the NFL played Pop Warner, what kind of impact will this have on the game in the future? Has Saban just contributed to the demise of football? Has Alabama killed the one thing it truly loves?
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In a move that challenges the longtime culture of America's most popular game, Pop Warner will introduce new rules to limit contact drills to one-third of practice time, and ban full-speed, head-on blocking and tackling drills in which players line up more than 3 yards apart.
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"I'm very supportive," Alabama coach Nick Saban told ESPN. "At our level, we try to limit exposure to contact as much as possible because we want our players healthy for the game. It's even more important for a youth coach to do that. We've got to get young people to play the game in a safe way. You've got to start somewhere, right?"
I'm all for keeping kids safe, but contact is part of the game. If it were anyone other than Saban, I'd think they were full of shite.
Since 70% of the players in the NFL played Pop Warner, what kind of impact will this have on the game in the future? Has Saban just contributed to the demise of football? Has Alabama killed the one thing it truly loves?
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Posted on 6/13/12 at 6:01 pm to blacknblu
He is also advocating the use of a round white ball that has 12 black pentagons.
Posted on 6/13/12 at 6:05 pm to blacknblu
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Has Saban just contributed to the demise of football? Has Alabama killed the one thing it truly loves?
I'm gonna go with no.
He is in favor of limiting the chance of injury during practice, not the game. Makes sense to me to be honest. No reason to maximize the kids chances of getting hurt OFF the field when there is plenty of chances of it ON the field.
Posted on 6/13/12 at 6:06 pm to blacknblu
Thug POS
Posted on 6/13/12 at 6:10 pm to blacknblu
Yea!
Posted on 6/13/12 at 6:10 pm to ThaKaptin
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He is in favor of limiting the chance of injury during practice, not the game. Makes sense to me to be honest. No reason to maximize the kids chances of getting hurt OFF the field when there is plenty of chances of it ON the field.
Good point, but isn't practice designed to prepare the player for the game? If kids aren't prepared for the contact, they can become scared - and being scared can get a kid really hurt.
I agree in principal with some of the rule changes, but it sounds like the game just became a little more pussified.
Posted on 6/13/12 at 6:13 pm to blacknblu
This isn't new for Saban. He has always limited contact in practice. Somehow his kids seem to know how to hit when it is gametime and he does keep injuries down.
Once they leave though they seem to be soft and hurt all the time....Mark Ingram, Julio Jones.
I couldn't be nice the whole post.
Once they leave though they seem to be soft and hurt all the time....Mark Ingram, Julio Jones.
I couldn't be nice the whole post.
This post was edited on 6/13/12 at 6:17 pm
Posted on 6/13/12 at 6:13 pm to blacknblu
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Saban Advocates for New Pop Warner Rules
Well then his will be done. The ESPN article will be posted shortly.
Posted on 6/13/12 at 6:18 pm to tigerskin
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This isn't new for Saban. He has always limited contact in practice. Somehow his kids seem to know how to hit when it is gametime and he does keep injuries down.
They "thud" until the lights come on..and then they bust heads.
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Once they leave though they seem to be soft and hurt all the time....Mark Ingram, Julio Jones.
Hey, you! You wait just one damn minute! I..
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I couldn't be nice the whole thread.
Oh. I understand. Carry on.
Posted on 6/13/12 at 6:21 pm to blacknblu
Don't think it's a big enough deal to worry with. Those kids are so small and slow. They usually push and pull more than hard tackles.
Posted on 6/13/12 at 6:24 pm to crimsonsaint
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Don't think it's a big enough deal to worry with. Those kids are so small and slow. They usually push and pull more than hard tackles.
Not according to the article
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A Virginia Tech study published this year showed that some hits among second graders pack as much force as those seen at the college level.
Posted on 6/13/12 at 6:30 pm to blacknblu
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A Virginia Tech study published this year showed that some hits among second graders pack as much force as those seen at the college level.
Lane Kiffin would like to see the film.
Posted on 6/13/12 at 6:34 pm to NBamaAlum
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Lane Kiffin would like to see the film.
Posted on 6/13/12 at 6:41 pm to blacknblu
My son has been playing tackle since he was 6, he's 10 now. I don't agree to limit them hitting in practice at all. How else are they supposed to learn to hit? It has to come at some point if they're going to play football, so I think it's better for them to get used to it at a younger age. Even the harder hitting kids at that age don't hit hard enough to cause serious injury anyway, but of course that's just my observation.
Posted on 6/13/12 at 6:47 pm to Rekrul
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How else are they supposed to learn to hit?
Exactly! Not only do they need to learn how to hit, they also need to learn how to "be hit". My son started tackle at 5 (he's now 7) - and he can put some kids OUT. How am I suppose to tell him in good faith "don't hit anyone in practice, someones vagina may leak"
Posted on 6/13/12 at 6:53 pm to Rekrul
"Bailes said his committee was particularly swayed by research suggesting that brains can be damaged not only from the big hits seen more commonly at the high school and adult levels but from smaller, more repetitive, sub-concussive blows experienced by players at all levels. Also, he said, most head injuries happen in practice. "
"I'm at our camp right now," Saban said by phone. "We have 1,100 kids here, ages 8 to 13, and it is all non-contact. These kids are improving tremendously. It's not just contact that a player needs. It's a matter of knowing how to come out of a block, how to use your hands, all kinds of things you can learn without contact. In fact, if you learn to use your hands better, you don't need to use your head as much."
"I'm at our camp right now," Saban said by phone. "We have 1,100 kids here, ages 8 to 13, and it is all non-contact. These kids are improving tremendously. It's not just contact that a player needs. It's a matter of knowing how to come out of a block, how to use your hands, all kinds of things you can learn without contact. In fact, if you learn to use your hands better, you don't need to use your head as much."
Posted on 6/13/12 at 7:03 pm to tigerskin
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It's a matter of knowing how to come out of a block, how to use your hands, all kinds of things you can learn without contact. In fact, if you learn to use your hands better, you don't need to use your head as much.
Unfortunately, not all Pop Warner coaches are Nick Saban. Results may vary.
Posted on 6/13/12 at 7:10 pm to blacknblu
Jesus, glad it wasn't like that when I played, tackling drills in practice were fun as shite.
What about the drill with 2 d linemen and 2 O linemen with a linebacker on one side and a rb on the other? That was fun as hell, sucks if they have to miss out on that.
What about the drill with 2 d linemen and 2 O linemen with a linebacker on one side and a rb on the other? That was fun as hell, sucks if they have to miss out on that.
Posted on 6/13/12 at 7:17 pm to tigerskin
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"Bailes said his committee was particularly swayed by research suggesting that brains can be damaged not only from the big hits seen more commonly at the high school and adult levels but from smaller, more repetitive, sub-concussive blows experienced by players at all levels. Also, he said, most head injuries happen in practice. "
I don't doubt the results from their "research", but is it accurate data? How do they compile their info? Do they base it on number of kids getting injured in the past 5, 6, 10 years? I'd think there are many, many more kids playing tackle football now than there were 20-30 years ago so of course the number of injuries will be greater now. I'm not calling you out on what you posted tigerskin, I'm simply responding to you because you posted the info. I'd really like to see all of the parameters that they base this "research" on. Are there more kids today getting concussions from falling off of bicycles than there were 25yrs ago? Probably so, there are more kids and more of them have bicycles.
Posted on 6/13/12 at 7:20 pm to Rekrul
I didn't read the article, but I think some of you guys are confusing limit with eliminate.
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