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re: Slive is pimpslapping the B1G/Delaney BCS Playoff Proposals
Posted on 4/25/12 at 2:46 pm to CAGator
Posted on 4/25/12 at 2:46 pm to CAGator
As much as I hate AD Deloss Dodds I totally agree with his statment concerning the Big Ten and Pac 10.
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“The only way it's going to get fixed,” Dodds said, “is for the rest of the country to have a playoff of some kind and let them do their (own) deal. And then after five years, their coaches would go berserk because they're not in the mix for a national championship. And they'd have to join it.”
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Posted on 4/25/12 at 2:49 pm to CAGator
I am fine with home playoff games.
Even if it is Boise State as the home team.
It is what it is.
Even if it is Boise State as the home team.
It is what it is.
This post was edited on 4/25/12 at 2:53 pm
Posted on 4/25/12 at 2:51 pm to SpringBokCock
Here here for home playoff games.
Posted on 4/25/12 at 2:54 pm to Smoke Ring
Posted on 4/25/12 at 2:57 pm to CAGator
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Works for the NFL see the NFC West.
Also lets stay you put a team from say the Big East in... They would still have to beat good teams to advance so I think they would either prove their worth or get bounced quickly.
Which is all the more reason college football should NOT do it. As great as the NFL is, the ability of relatively bad teams benefitting from being in uneven divisions is the one horrible thing about the NFL. Heaven forbid college goes to that horrible "playoff setup".
It still amazes me that people can't see all the pitfalls of a 4 team conference winners only playoff format. If LSU would have lost 9-6 at Bama on November 5th they would have ended the season ranked #2 but left at home watching 2 loss Oregon (which they throttled) in a 4 team playoff with Alabama, Wisconsin, and Oklahoma State. 2 loss Oregon and 2 loss Wisconsin go over LSU and Stanford in such a playoff. Would LSU fans REALLY be for that? (answer honestly, not in hindsight knowing how the season played out)
P.S. I'm on board with the home playoff games at the higher seeded team's stadium with the final championship game at a pre-determined site btw.
This post was edited on 4/25/12 at 3:00 pm
Posted on 4/25/12 at 3:00 pm to Govt Tide
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If LSU would have lost 9-6 at Bama on November 5th they would have ended the season ranked #2 but left at home watching 2 loss Oregon (which they throttled) in a 4 team playoff with Alabama, Wisconsin, and Oklahoma State. 2 loss Oregon and 2 loss Wisconsin go over LSU and Stanford in such a playoff. Would LSU fans REALLY be for that? (answer honestly, not in hindsight knowing how the season played out)
What's worse... That or beating Bama at BDS 9-6... Going on the Win the SEC only to lose to Bama in the title game thus making the game at Bama pointless
Posted on 4/25/12 at 3:04 pm to CAGator
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Well IMO it should be more like an 8 to 16 team playoff
Well, THAT'S not gonna happen, so you need to go back and answer the first question about a Big East conference champion being worthy of being in the plus four over...ohhh, a 2011 Bama-type team.
Make it good.
Posted on 4/25/12 at 3:05 pm to bamascott2
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so you need to go back and answer the first question about a Big East conference champion being worthy of being in the plus four
Well since there are more than 4 conferences I would do something that would take the top 4 ranked conference winners
Posted on 4/25/12 at 3:06 pm to CAGator
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What's worse... That or beating Bama at BDS 9-6... Going on the Win the SEC only to lose to Bama in the title game thus making the game at Bama pointless
That only happened due to exceedingly rare circumstances. Any one of the following NOT happening would have prevented a rematch:
Oregon losing at home to USC
Stanford losing at home to Oregon
Oklahoma State losing at Iowa State
Oklahoma losing TWICE at home vs Texas Tech and at Baylor
If ONE of these doesn't happen, neither Alabama nor LSU if they lost 9-6 on Nov 5th get a rematch. The point is that LSU would have blown out the Big East champ, the Pac 12 champ, and everyone else on their schedule except Bama and they wouldn't have even gotten a shot at the title. That's what this great wonder Big Ten plan offers.
Posted on 4/25/12 at 3:07 pm to CAGator
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Well since there are more than 4 conferences I would do something that would take the top 4 ranked conference winners
Then you're gonna have seven teams pissed and then you're right back to where you are with all of the original BCS Bitchfest.
Posted on 4/25/12 at 3:09 pm to Govt Tide
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That only happened due to exceedingly rare circumstances. Any one of the following NOT happening would have prevented a rematch:
I do not debate how much had to happen for the rematch to happen. Also I do think they were the two best teams. I have just always thought that you should win your own conference to win a MNC. I thought that when OU got their shot in 03 and when UGA fans thought they should get a shot at the 07 title when they were probably playing the best at the end of the year.
Posted on 4/25/12 at 3:11 pm to CFBFAN1121
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I actually like the idea of home playoff games, cold weather or not.
+1
Posted on 4/25/12 at 3:13 pm to CAGator
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Then you're gonna have seven teams pissed and then you're right back to where you are with all of the original BCS Bitchfest.
True but I think it would still be better than what we have now. There are always going to be teams\fans feeling like they were left out. Too many teams too many bad conferences to inflate rankings\wins to ever really know who the best team is and who should actually get a shot.
The one issue I have with how I would do it ( rankings of top 4) is that then it based a lot on pre season hype and where you start.
I do not think rankings should come out until halfway through the season and it shouldn't be coaches\AP polls. Too much bias and does not take enough into account. Rankings should factor SOS, and MOV and I don't think coaches or AP writers do.
Posted on 4/25/12 at 3:14 pm to bamascott2
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Then you're gonna have seven teams pissed and then you're right back to where you are with all of the original BCS Bitchfest.
That's the point everyone can't or won't see in this whole playoff debate. There is so much backlash over Alabama getting in and winning it that all logic regarding the merits of a team that didn't win their conference are thrown out the window. What would have happened if UCLA and Louisville (or whoever West Virginia beat for the Big EAst title) had won their conference title games. You would have had either UCLA, Louisville, or Clemson playing for the BCS championship over Alabama and Stanford. Yep, that would have made a ton of sense.
Long story short, you either go strictly by final BCS ranking or you have to have a larger playoff that incorporates the top BCS conference champions and 2 or 3 at large bids to great teams that didn't win their conference for a playoff to truly work.
Posted on 4/25/12 at 3:20 pm to Govt Tide
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It still amazes me that people can't see all the pitfalls of a 4 team conference winners only playoff format. If LSU would have lost 9-6 at Bama on November 5th they would have ended the season ranked #2 but left at home watching 2 loss Oregon (which they throttled) in a 4 team playoff with Alabama, Wisconsin, and Oklahoma State. 2 loss Oregon and 2 loss Wisconsin go over LSU and Stanford in such a playoff. Would LSU fans REALLY be for that? (answer honestly, not in hindsight knowing how the season played out)
it is debatable but overall I think with only four teams using only the highest ranked team from a conference or the conference champ has a lot of value - because it makes conference games part of the playoff
And in 2006 I thought LSU might have won it all in a playoff but considering they had their chance and squandered it I think it is better for the game of college football that they did not get a second chance.
I feel the same way about Michigan in 2006, UGA in 2007, Florida in 2009, and Alabama in 2011
If they go to a six or more team playoff then IMO they should have at large bids going to teams from other (non-major) conferences or highly ranked runners up from already represented major conferences
Posted on 4/25/12 at 3:23 pm to Govt Tide
What if they went to a format where the top seed was responsible for the venue. For instance if say Vandy was ranked 4 at the time they could do the game at titans stadium or their home stadium if they decide within proximity to accommodate the smaller schools in the playoff.
Posted on 4/25/12 at 3:33 pm to oklahogjr
With all of scenario's out there and no one can agree of any one specific plan, there's no way in hell a playoff will be coming to college football any time soon. Just wasted energy by the AD's, president's, commissioner's, etc. A total waste, these old farts won't ever come to a concensus agreement on anything. 
Posted on 4/25/12 at 3:35 pm to RT1941
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there's no way in hell a playoff will be coming to college football
The only real issue they probably care about is money. If they can find a way to make more money doing it they will. It's always about the money they could care less about providing a better product\champion... Well except for maybe the Boise's and TCU's of the world.
Posted on 4/25/12 at 3:44 pm to CAGator
Slive has the biggest dick on the dock.
Some here dog him out but you dont know how pathetic a commish can be until you come from the B12 or B10.
He is the bosses bawse.
Some here dog him out but you dont know how pathetic a commish can be until you come from the B12 or B10.
He is the bosses bawse.
Posted on 4/25/12 at 3:51 pm to sasrocks
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Some here dog him out but you dont know how pathetic a commish can be until you come from the B12 or B10.
Factual. Just imagine if Dan Beebe was working for the SEC instead of Texas.
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