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re: Chief's Harrison Butker delivers an unforgettable commencement address
Posted on 5/20/24 at 1:13 pm to NawlinsTiger9
Posted on 5/20/24 at 1:13 pm to NawlinsTiger9
quote:
Awful lot of critical analysis and interpreting being done on the guy’s behalf - seems like at the very least one could admit the message, whatever it was, was poorly delivered
Wrong, Again.
You say this, but you also admitted, I think, to misinterpreting the word "disorder," and that it didn't really make sense until I explained it (while also saying it doesn't really change what you think, but I digress). Butker can't stand there and give you a rundown of the Catechism - that would take some time and probably still make no sense to people who don't want to listen.
The problem is that a bunch of people choose to react to something they have no idea about. And no amount of describing is really going to change the way they look at it. It is close to impossible to communicate about Spiritual things to people who don't want to hear it, don't believe and don't accept the definition of it. For you, I assume "not in alignment with God's will" is still gobbldigook, and for some reason you can't place yourself in the context of the speech and analyze it. You and DPB and the rest ONLY want your take on what he said, with misinterpretation, and nothing will change your mind, and since no definition will make sense, the core of what he said will never make sense. That's not Butker's fault, that's your immovable position (you want to talk about zealotry being "uncompromising, well there you go).
I mean, how am I supposed to convince you with words that life begins at conception, when you will never believe life begins at conception?
And that kind of wasn't a speech for someone who doesn't want to listen to it anyway. That was not his target audience. He probably knows there are better people for that purpose.
This post was edited on 5/20/24 at 1:15 pm
Posted on 5/20/24 at 1:57 pm to Freauxzen
Nope nope nope
See this time I WAS talking about the thing you originally assumed I was - the controversial part.
You and I ran out of road on our discussion. You’re more upset with me calling butker a zealot than you are at him for talking like one. Fair enough, agree to disagree.
But if THIS
Is what Butker meant by his statement, as some of you suggest, yet THIS
Is what he said.
Then yeah, he did a poor job of communicating his message. It’s not the end of the damn world, but it is pretty obvious.
See this time I WAS talking about the thing you originally assumed I was - the controversial part.
You and I ran out of road on our discussion. You’re more upset with me calling butker a zealot than you are at him for talking like one. Fair enough, agree to disagree.
But if THIS
quote:
Hes basically saying don’t sacrifice a family at the alter of your career.
Is what Butker meant by his statement, as some of you suggest, yet THIS
quote:
"I think it is you, the women, who have had the most diabolic lies told to you," he said. "Some of you may go on to lead successful careers in the world but I would venture to guess that the majority of you are most excited about your marriage and the children you will bring into this world."
Is what he said.
Then yeah, he did a poor job of communicating his message. It’s not the end of the damn world, but it is pretty obvious.
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