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re: The Coming Social Security Crisis
Posted on 3/30/24 at 5:18 am to wackatimesthree
Posted on 3/30/24 at 5:18 am to wackatimesthree
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IT IS NOT A CHECK FROM THE GOVERNMENT.
It absolutely is. It's an entitlement. The SCOTUS has said so, and they are correct.
We might be referring to different components of SS. I'm talking about the money I earn and gets taken from me with the forced agreement that I will get some portion back at a specified time period. Changing that after the fact is theft. I am not referring to unearned benefits that this monstrosity of a program has added and expanded to. It was intended to be an entitlement as much as obamacare is a tax so frick the sc and their political definitions.
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It's not your money. Your money went to pay for someone else's benefits who was eligible for the entitlement at the time you paid your taxes. And your entitlement checks will be paid for by someone else. Just like any other welfare/entitlement program.
I understand fully how this ponzzi scheme works. Taking my money and then suggesting that not being okay with a change in this forced agreement is "welfare" is fricking stupid.
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The "It's my money!" bullshite is just a marketing narrative that the government used to sell this program to the public in the first place. It's no more "your money" than the money you pay in other taxes that are used for SNAP or to subsidize someone's ACA health insurance premiums.
It is COMPLETELY different. This is a defined benefit program. Let us steal about 12% of your lifetime earnings and you will get X amount back per month at Y age. That's the deal. Changing X or Y after the fact is theft.
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Posted on 3/30/24 at 6:51 am to lazlodawg
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with the forced agreement that I will get some portion back at a specified time period
This does not exist.
Your money is taxed and becomes the government's to spend on others.
When/if you receive any SS money, you'll be spending someone else's money the government has taken.
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It was intended to be an entitlement
It's always been a redistributive, socialist entitlement program.
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It is COMPLETELY different. This is a defined benefit program.
That's not really different.
Section 8, Medicaid, food stamps, etc. are defined benefit programs.
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Let us steal about 12% of your lifetime earnings and you will get X amount back per month at Y age
You don't "get anything back". You're living off the theft of 12% of others' salary at that time.
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Changing X or Y after the fact is theft.
No. This does not reflect how this redistributive welfare program works.
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