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re: Abortion is a women's issue, and ONLY a women's issue...
Posted on 5/7/22 at 7:03 pm to McLemore
Posted on 5/7/22 at 7:03 pm to McLemore
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Just because someone or even something poses a risk to a person doesn't mean that person necessary has a right to eliminate that someone or something.
It's body autonomy, brother. I can admit there's grey area around "where life begins", but it certainly isn't at "conception".
Posted on 5/7/22 at 8:59 pm to Sub Par SUPERSTAR
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It's body autonomy, brother.
Sex has always led to pregnancy since the dawn of man. In the last century we’ve gotten the bright idea to try to separate the two. Very low IQ people think you can have one without the other.
The body autonomy argument would make sense if women had sex against their will, but we know that’s like .01% of abortions. The vast vast majority are just person choice. Women have sex knowing full well what it leads to, then act shocked they get pregnant. They had bodily autonomy when they chose to have sex, so they don’t get to claim bodily autonomy again when they get pregnant. Cannot have it both ways.
Again, all these arguments lead back to personal responsibility. The modern left has done everything it can to remove personal responsibility from everything. You are always a victim, there is always someone out to get you, it’s someone else’s job to take care of you, any trouble your in now couldn’t possibly be from your own actions. Abortion fits this nicely. Are you pregnant because you made bad choices? Not your fault, kill the baby!
Posted on 5/9/22 at 4:53 pm to Sub Par SUPERSTAR
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I can admit there's grey area around "where life begins", but it certainly isn't at "conception".
Oh really?
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Human Embryology by William J. Larsen, 3rd edition, 2001
“In this text, we begin our description of the developing human with the formation and differentiation of the male and female sex cells or gametes, which will unite at fertilization to initiate the embryonic development of a new individual” (p. 1)
“After the oocyte finishes meiosis, the paternal and maternal chromosomes come together, resulting in the formation of a zygote containing a single diploid nucleus. Embryonic development is considered to begin at this point. The newly formed embryo undergoes a series of cells divisions called cleavage as it travels down the oviduct toward the uterus. The cleavage divisions subdivide the zygote first into two cells, then into four, then into eight, and so on.” (p. 1-3)
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Langman's Medical Embryology, T. W. Sadler, 7th edition. Baltimore: Williams & Wilkins 1995
"The development of a human begins with fertilization, a process by which the spermatozoon from the male and the oocyte from the female unite to give rise to a new organism, the zygote." (p. 3)
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The Developing Human Being by Keith Moore and T.V.N. Persaud, 7th edition, 2003
"Human development is a continuous process that begins when an oocyte (ovum) from a female is fertilized by a sperm (spermatozoon) from a male. Cell division, cell migration, programmed cell death, differentiation, growth, and cell rearrangement transform the fertilized oocyte, a highly specialized, totipotent cell – a zygote – into a multicellular human being.
Just in case you get confused:
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conception - noun
con·cep·tion | \ k?n-'sep-sh?n \
Definition of conception
1a(1): the process of becoming pregnant involving fertilization or implantation or both
(2): EMBRYO, FETUS
Mirriam-Webster's Dictionary
I have a ton more citations that say you're full of shite, would you like me to go on? Why do you deny science?
BTW, I am a biologist, how about you?
This post was edited on 5/9/22 at 5:04 pm
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