When I say average, he just needs to care more and not fall asleep constantly. Going from where he is to that would be huge.

Curry comp is weird. He's above average. He works hard, executes the scheme. He's just small. And the Warriors understand his limits and built a roster to cover them. If you're building a roster and asking Ingram to be force on defense, you've lost the plot

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Jrue/Lonzo, Lonzo/Hart, and Hart/Herb

Those defenses largely sucked too. Not because they needed Ingram on ball, but because he and Zion were garbage off ball. Just a small improvement there would be a huge difference for the team. No matter how locked up Holiday or Herb have a guy, if one teammate in the back falls asleep for a second, thats a bucket. Likewise, you can get by with non lock down defenders if you know scheme + execute.

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ultimately what SVG and other observers have said is true, our team will be capped long term by how much effort and success BI/Zion have defensively.

Yup. I thought for a while last year that they should trade Ingram.

If the presumptive best 5 are:

McCollum
Ingram
Jones
Zion
Valanciunas

they will score a ton. They will also give up a ton because that's 4 weak to mediocre defenders. Just small improvements in give a damn from Zion and Ingram could help keep the offense ahead

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Posted by corndeaux

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Posted on 2/13/22 at 9:33 am to corndeaux

And if you can get Zion/Ingram to give a damn, that opens up some interesting lineups down the line.

What can you put around Zion/Ingram/Herb if those first 2 care? Herb at the 5...

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Posted by Bronc

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Posted on 2/13/22 at 9:47 am to corndeaux

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Curry comp is weird.

It’s really not though.

Before Kerr, and Kerr year one, the Warriors hid Curry defensively, than told him, listen, if we want this team to reach its potential you need to step up defensively too. And he did, slowly over time but today he’s straight up matching up against 2nd offensive options at times and doing a darn good job.

BI has largely been on that same path, but Bi is much more naturally built to be a good defender(and from LA we KNOW he can be), and now is the time where he needs his own Kerr come-to-Jesus moment. He needs to be told for this to work, YOU need to take on more responsibility and do so effectively, otherwise, we are capping this teams potential.

It’s the difference between does BI want to be seen like a Carmelo, or a Kobe/Tatum/KD two-way player? And if he’s just gonna be a Carmelo, this Zion/BI/CJ/JV/Herb project is ultimately gonna fail to reach its potential

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