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Why do our teams give up so quickly?

Posted on 10/6/15 at 8:33 pm
Posted by AU4real35
Member since Jan 2014
16065 posts
Posted on 10/6/15 at 8:33 pm
I've been an Auburn fan all of my life and over the past 10 years I have never seen it this bad. Is it because we are competing for the top recruits against Bama, Georgia, Florida, LSU, and now even Ole Miss? Are we having to gamble more on high ranking recruits with character problems? Do our coaches just lose the teams because of their inability to hold it together? Just trying to wrap my mind around these teams that just throw in the towel a few games into the season.
Posted by ChexMix
Taste the Deliciousness
Member since Apr 2014
24732 posts
Posted on 10/6/15 at 8:38 pm to
Culture changed when Chizik was hired. Coaches began being players friends and coddling them as recruits. At least with Tubs, i respected the football program.
Posted by bawbarn
Member since Jul 2012
3688 posts
Posted on 10/6/15 at 8:42 pm to
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Just trying to wrap my mind around these teams that just throw in the towel a few games into the season.


The Auburn fanbase has a tendency to get pretty negative quickly if anything goes wrong. The last 10 years will do that though. Maybe the players take on the personality of our pussy fanbase.
Posted by AU4real35
Member since Jan 2014
16065 posts
Posted on 10/6/15 at 8:47 pm to
Don't get me wrong we do become negative, but I believe a lot of it is necessary criticism.
Posted by Rhino5
Atlanta
Member since Nov 2014
28896 posts
Posted on 10/6/15 at 8:47 pm to
Stability. Need a long term coach like Gus hopefully.
Posted by Weagle25
THE Football State.
Member since Oct 2011
46173 posts
Posted on 10/6/15 at 8:54 pm to
Maybe it's the fan base's imagination. Shocking i know.

Rumor is hinted at and our fan base takes it to the extreme.
Posted by AU4real35
Member since Jan 2014
16065 posts
Posted on 10/6/15 at 8:59 pm to
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Stability. Need a long term coach like Gus hopefully.


I truly hope Gus can salvage a 7 win season this year and hold it together
Posted by AUNashville
New Haven
Member since Jul 2014
3561 posts
Posted on 10/6/15 at 9:07 pm to
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Coaches began being players friends and coddling them as recruits.


There might be something to this.

Earlier, when Duke was deep into his preseason fit, I called out CDC who befriended players both Jameis Winston and Duke, and we all know how the perceptions of those two are. Didn't CDC get into Twitter arguments regarding Auburn's 1993 season? Yet he's also the coach who calmed with Duke after he teased transferring on Twitter???

CDC's Twitter rant came off as immature and unprofessional to me.

My point is, I don't think it's always a good thing for this type of relationship to exist between players and coaches, and it could be the reason players feel like they can get away with certain things.
Posted by ChexMix
Taste the Deliciousness
Member since Apr 2014
24732 posts
Posted on 10/6/15 at 9:17 pm to
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it is the reason players feel like they can get away with certain things.

Yep
Posted by makersmark1
earth
Member since Oct 2011
15710 posts
Posted on 10/6/15 at 9:34 pm to
I was at AU from 1982-1985.

When we opened 1984 0-2 and lost Bo for a good portion of the season, Dye and those coaches willed them to win 9 games.

You are right. It is something about character. We are frontrunners. I see it in kids often in all sports. They don't play well the first part of the game and then just go through the motions.
Posted by N97883
New Dehli Forsyth GA
Member since Nov 2013
8062 posts
Posted on 10/6/15 at 11:03 pm to
I wasn't good at it right away so I quit.

-Bart Simpson



Posted by TheJones
Member since Nov 2009
33272 posts
Posted on 10/6/15 at 11:15 pm to
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Why do our teams give up so quickly?

Because they read this message board
Posted by higgs_boson
State College, PA
Member since Sep 2014
22454 posts
Posted on 10/6/15 at 11:35 pm to
Do you really think the team has given up?

So far I have seen very little to indicate this is like the 2012 team (the last team I think that really gave up)

Put it in perspective.

After losing to Vanderbilt (October 20th), our average loss was by more than 40 points.

Posted by BowlJackson
Birmingham, AL
Member since Sep 2013
52881 posts
Posted on 10/6/15 at 11:55 pm to
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Are we having to gamble more on high ranking recruits with character problems?


Tubs would have signed De'Runnya, Ameer Abdullah, Vic Beasley, Jayron Kearse, Jarrad Davis, and Stephen Davis Jr.

Blee dat
Posted by DyeHardDylan
Member since Nov 2011
7728 posts
Posted on 10/7/15 at 1:39 am to
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So far I have seen very little to indicate this is like the 2012 team (the last team I think that really gave up)


It was nowhere near as bad as 2012, but last season, the team threw in the towel after the MSU loss. No way that team should have started 5-0 and then finished 3-5 down the stretch. The UGA game that year was probably the most embarrassing game I've seen in a while.
Posted by RandySavage
Member since May 2012
30806 posts
Posted on 10/7/15 at 6:40 am to
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Culture changed when Chizik was hired. Coaches began being players friends and coddling them as recruits.


I was thinking about this the other day. We went with a complete opposite of Saban's business approach with the "family" thing and being buddy buddy with recruits. I wonder if that type of approach attracts a weaker minded type player who wants to have their hand held rather than work hard and be pushed.

Probably an unfair blanket generalization but could be true for some guys and those guys bring down the rest of the team. There has to be some explanation for the end of 2011, 2012, and this year. Talented teams don't just totally implode like we have randomly.
Posted by allin2010
Auburn
Member since Aug 2011
18149 posts
Posted on 10/7/15 at 6:46 am to
Why do the fans give up so quickly? Negative energy flows down to the players. The players want to win, they have done the work. I saw a team that played hard the last two weeks, especially on defense. As long as they fight, I support them win, lose or draw.

Success and the younger fans are also part of this. Sadly 2012 is fresh on all fans minds. Add in social media and talk radio and you get a bad recipe.

Try being positive that the Auburn family supports our players.
Posted by bawbarn
Member since Jul 2012
3688 posts
Posted on 10/7/15 at 6:47 am to
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Tubs would have signed De'Runnya, Ameer Abdullah, Vic Beasley, Jayron Kearse, Jarrad Davis, and Stephen Davis Jr.

Blee dat


Yup, and some fans would have bitched because they didn't have all the starz.
Posted by AA7
Birmingham, AL
Member since Nov 2009
26663 posts
Posted on 10/7/15 at 6:52 am to
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Negative energy flows down to the energy vampires.

Fify
Posted by N97883
New Dehli Forsyth GA
Member since Nov 2013
8062 posts
Posted on 10/7/15 at 7:59 am to
Here's a question, who has not given up and who has?

I'll start

Not Given Up
Barber


Given Up


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