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What I hope will happen moving forward

Posted on 11/28/15 at 7:04 pm
Posted by DyeHardDylan
Member since Nov 2011
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Posted on 11/28/15 at 7:04 pm
Gus needs to help Rhett find another job or just get rid of him. He needs to find a good offensive coordinator and then trust that person to call the plays because this three yards and a cloud of dust offense isn't working. It's obvious Gus needs someone to challenge him on offense because Rhett is just there to be a yes man if we're being completely honest. Secondly, Garner needs to be moved to an off the field position where he can still help with recruiting but he has no business coaching defensive line and it's been long overdue. Thirdly, some changes need to be made with strength and conditioning. I realize I'm being a coach from the couch, but these problems are overwhelmingly obvious. Having said that, I feel like Muschamp has the defense as a whole moving in the right direction. This team has played with a lot of heart and kept it close most all year and it's not their fault that some play calling and decision making by the coaching staff have put them in bad situations.
Posted by atlau
Member since Oct 2012
5264 posts
Posted on 11/28/15 at 7:11 pm to
I can see the point about Rhett and Garner, but how in the hell do you say strength and conditioning is an issue?
Posted by RandySavage
Member since May 2012
30806 posts
Posted on 11/28/15 at 7:11 pm to
I've been frustrated with Gus, and he cost us the UGA game, but the more I think about the season we were a QB away from being at worst, 10-2 and probably 11-1. Some of that falls on him for not having the QBs more prepared and he handled it poorly throughout but he had nothing to work with, especially after White got hurt.

The D got better and better.

The offense was just too handicapped by personnel, especially when Duke went off the deep end.

Maybe I'm just jaded by how we laid down at the end of 2011 and all of 2012 but this team fought hard every week after Baton Rouge.

If we could find another JUCO QB we should be in line for a good year next season unless everyone goes pro.

Recruiting on the interior DL and LB has got to improve. The defense fought their arse off today but just couldn't keep up with getting pounded up the middle 50 times.

Playmakers as well but with Davis and Stove there may be some help on the way there.

No way to spin what has been an incredibly disappointing season, especially considering how poor our opponents ended up being, but I still have a small bit of hope unlike after 08, 11, 12.

Though I'm sure what will happen is we will find our QB right in time for Muschamp to leave and then we will be back to scoring but not being able to stop the other team.
This post was edited on 11/28/15 at 7:15 pm
Posted by AU86
Member since Aug 2009
22291 posts
Posted on 11/28/15 at 7:11 pm to
He needs to find a quarterback. Hopefully White is the man. I just don't know. We need playmakers at receiver. If JJ ever see's the field again at Auburn Malzahn needs to be fired on the spot.

If Malzahn has another sub-par year he is toast.
This post was edited on 11/28/15 at 7:13 pm
Posted by AuburnCPA
Member since May 2008
18821 posts
Posted on 11/28/15 at 7:17 pm to
it aint Gus or Rhett's fault that JJ is a clutz
Posted by RockyMtnTigerWDE
War Damn Eagle Dad!
Member since Oct 2010
105362 posts
Posted on 11/28/15 at 7:18 pm to
Frick Randy


I am going to agree with all of,your points you made.

Posted by higgs_boson
State College, PA
Member since Sep 2014
22454 posts
Posted on 11/28/15 at 7:19 pm to
Team never quit. Proud of their effort.

Lashlee needs to move on, because he needs to develop on his own and Gus needs someone with a different perspective to change up the offense. If you do not grow and evolve in this league you have no shot.

I really hope BOOM is back next year.
Posted by AU86
Member since Aug 2009
22291 posts
Posted on 11/28/15 at 7:19 pm to
Their play calling all season has been awful. JJ has been in this system for three years. If it's not their fault, why didn't they find someone else?
#offensiveguru
This post was edited on 11/28/15 at 7:22 pm
Posted by farmer brown
St.Clair County, Al
Member since Sep 2012
1108 posts
Posted on 11/28/15 at 7:21 pm to
This is his second major mis-read on a QB. I hope he doesn't make it three. Nick and Cam made him look better than he is. His playcalling is absolutely baffling at times. IT looks like the QB has to be developed somewhat before he gets here. He isn't a genius either.
Posted by rootisback
Member since Mar 2014
3371 posts
Posted on 11/28/15 at 7:21 pm to
I may be in the minority (never bothers me) but I think Gus will get it together. He is still growing as a HC. The "Fire Gus" people are way premature - would set AU back for a decade.
Obviously he needs to make some changes and I believe he will. He did last year -- don't forget he is the one who hired CWM and that is working.
It will all be okay. The main thing I saw is that this team or the coaches never quit. The players played hard. The coaches coached hard (CWM maybe a little too hard during the game. This is not a scenario where the team or coaches quit. They all want to be better. No one took this season harder than Gus -- his history shows that he will respond to the disappointment.
War Damn Mofo Eagle!!!!
Posted by DyeHardDylan
Member since Nov 2011
7728 posts
Posted on 11/28/15 at 7:22 pm to
quote:

it aint Gus or Rhett's fault that JJ is a clutz


Well who recruited JJ, named him starting QB, sent him to Media Days and hyped him up all summer? Either our evaluation of QBs is way off or we're not very good at developing them. I tend to think a combination of both is true.
Posted by AUjim
America
Member since Dec 2012
3660 posts
Posted on 11/28/15 at 7:30 pm to
quote:

"Fire Gus" people are way premature - would set AU back for a decade.


I am not advicating for his firing, but i am absolutely calling bullshite. This team deserved a lot better than 6-6. Coaching and playcalling flaws have never been so obvious.

A top shelf coach goes very far with this team.
Posted by RandySavage
Member since May 2012
30806 posts
Posted on 11/28/15 at 7:34 pm to
I have to say, it is hard to imagine not being able to see some signs of this in practice/scrimmages.

I mean, and I feel bad saying it because I don't want to pile on the kid, some people are better in practice or better games but there are times when Johnson looks like he is taking the first snap of his life and doesn't even know what the object of the sport is.
Posted by rootisback
Member since Mar 2014
3371 posts
Posted on 11/28/15 at 7:37 pm to
but when you fire a coach every 3-4 yrs, a "top shelf" coach wont even look at you. Plus, the recruiting strategies change, so the personnel probably wont fit the new coach, so that takes at least 2-3 years to get the new coaches personnel type -- but wait -- he hasn't won big -- fire him now!!! Its a fricking miserable merry go round
Posted by LanierSpots
Sarasota, Florida
Member since Sep 2010
61505 posts
Posted on 11/28/15 at 7:37 pm to
quote:

Their play calling all season has been awful. JJ has been in this system for three years. If it's not their fault, why didn't they find someone else?


Agree on the play calling. Even as bad as JJ was, Gus cost us atleast 3 games with his play calling... That is inexcusable for a head coach offensive guru...


Hopefully, we can find us a QB that fits what we need to do. Hopefully, JJ will transfer. I don't see him sitting the bench next year for us and there is no way he can play for us again. The kid just doesn't have it.

We don't need to fire any coaches. Just get the players that fit the system we can run and run it. Don't get cute and let the coaches ego get in the way

Posted by AU86
Member since Aug 2009
22291 posts
Posted on 11/28/15 at 7:39 pm to
I agree. Gus will get another year. But how can hiring the right coach set us back a decade? Gus learning on the job is setting us back. Maybe next time someone else besides our p- brained AD gets to hire the football coach. Right now it looks like he is 0-2. I am very disappointed in Malzahn. I don't think he will get it done. Maybe I am wrong. He is 2-9 in his last eleven SEC games and 0-2 in bowl games. His playcalling baffles me. I just don't get it. He better hope he comes up with a qb and playmakers at receiver. He also better pray that the defense continues to improve next year.
Posted by AUjim
America
Member since Dec 2012
3660 posts
Posted on 11/28/15 at 7:42 pm to
Again, I said very clearly that i'm not advocating for firing him now.

Also, Florida and Michigan beg to differ.
Posted by DyeHardDylan
Member since Nov 2011
7728 posts
Posted on 11/28/15 at 7:42 pm to
quote:

but when you fire a coach every 3-4 yrs, a "top shelf" coach wont even look at you. Plus, the recruiting strategies change, so the personnel probably wont fit the new coach, so that takes at least 2-3 years to get the new coaches personnel type -- but wait -- he hasn't won big -- fire him now!!! Its a fricking miserable merry go round


Highly disagree with this. Alabama thought the same in 2006 about Shula and I don't think they regret getting rid of him. Coaches will look at Auburn and see that you can win championships and win games and have one of the best fan bases and great resources to help. But no coach with a proven track record is going to want to work for the current AD and as long as he is here, we'll be hiring coaches based on personal relationship and friendship instead of what's best for Auburn anyway. Gus should get another year, but anything less than a 9 or 10 win season next year and he needs to be shown the door. There's no excuse for highly underachieving this season and last.
Posted by AU86
Member since Aug 2009
22291 posts
Posted on 11/28/15 at 7:42 pm to
quote:

but when you fire a coach every 3-4 yrs, a "top shelf" coach wont even look at you. Plus, the recruiting strategies change, so the personnel probably wont fit the new coach, so that takes at least 2-3 years to get the new coaches personnel type -- but wait -- he hasn't won big -- fire him now!!! Its a fricking miserable merry go round


If the right coach is hired you won't have to fire one every 3-4 years. Hire a proven coach like Gary Patterson, etc. Auburn could land a proven coach like that, don't sell Auburn short if the right people are making the decisions. I just don't see why that so many Auburn people are willing to,put up with this inconsistency and under achievement. When is the last time that this program had back to back ten win seasons? It seems like so many believe that we cannot achieve better and why don't more people demand better?
This post was edited on 11/28/15 at 7:49 pm
Posted by AubieALUMdvm
Member since Oct 2011
11713 posts
Posted on 11/28/15 at 7:45 pm to
If next year is a repeat of this year he is gone. No way anyone can support him after that.

Guy is making big time money. Everyone of us gets paid to do a job and Gus is no different. Want the big paycheck? Then Give big results. Otherwise you can pack your bags

(This goes for our AD too)
This post was edited on 11/28/15 at 7:46 pm
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