re: Watched the 2013 SEC ship game

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I think it takes a special kind of athlete to run Gus Malzahn's offense. Having someone that is special with the ball in his hands, running wise, opens up the read-option. Having roughly 7 in the box to stop (for example) Tre Mason and Nick Marshall is hard to do. The defense, then, starts creeping another man to the line of scrimmage, and the passing lanes open and make it easier for an average passer.

Gus Malzahn's offenses have been best when he's had a dual threat quarterback and tried to dominate the game on the ground. It should be no surprise that Auburn was 34-7 with Cam Newton and Nick Marshall with 2 SEC Championships and 2 National Titles appearances (winning 1). It should also be no surprise Auburn was 23-16 with pocket passers like Barrett Trotter, Clint Moseley, Sean White, Chris Todd and Jeremy Johnson with wins in the Outback/Birmingham/Chick-Fil-A bowls.

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I agree with the sentiment here. Gus is best with a true dual threat QB. The only thing that I'd LIKE to at least discuss and see is if we have a really good defense this year how would that change things? Obviously Auburn hasn't fielded a top 20 type of D since about 2007. The offense has basically had to carry the program. We all agree that Gus' offense runs better with a dual threat QB, but what if White is just flat out better than the dual threat options we currently have? Do we trust him to at least be able to move the ball somewhat effectively and trust our defense to be good?

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What's sad is that he outperformed Sean White in 2015, though.

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What's really sad is that the obvious difference in play calling by Malzahn/Lashlee between when Johnson was QB and White was QB seems to have complete eluded you.

Oh, and this:

Johnson - 156 pass attempts, 6.7 Y/A, 7 interceptions (1 int per 22 attempts)

White - 130 pass attempts, 8.2 Y/A, 2 interceptions (1 int per 65 attempts)

Gosh, looking at a guy who completed more passes downfield (higher Y/A) and had a HUGELY lower interception rate, whatever could have been the reason why he had less TD passes, I wonder?

Think hard, I know you can figure it out.

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Oh, and this:

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your numbers are wrong baw

Completion %
Jeremy Johnson: 60.5
Sean White: 58.0

Passing Touchdowns
Jeremy Johnson: 10
Sean White: 1

Total Touchdowns
Jeremy Johnson: 16
Sean White: 1

Interceptions
Jeremy Johnson: 7
Sean White: 4

Passer Rating
Jeremy Johnson: 129.0
Sean White: 123.2

Win/Loss Record (starts)
Jeremy Johnson: 4-2
Sean White: 3-4

Points Per Game (starts)
Jeremy Johnson: 29
Sean White: 24.8

Rushing Yards
Jeremy Johnson: 137
Sean White: 35

I had already mentioned yards per attempt two pages ago.

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2015.

One full year of non-dual threat pocket passers leading the offense.

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FIFY

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I had already mentioned yards per attempt two pages ago.

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One QBs Y/A directly indicates greater success throwing the ball downfield, yet that same QB had less TD passes?

Gosh, I wonder how that could happen?

Come on... you KNOW the answer. Just say it and get it off your chest.

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Gosh, I wonder how that could happen?

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1 touchdown pass in 7 starts. 1 total touchdown in 7 starts.

Awful.

from PFF on why each SEC team should be hopeful for 2016:

Auburn: Sean White’s huge game against Arkansas

There’s always development needed from a young quarterback, but if Sean White can win the starting job in 2016, there’s a big time performance from 2015 to look back on and get Auburn fans excited. White completed 19-of-34 that day, which by itself might not seem that impressive. When you consider that of his 15 incompletions, six were dropped passes, two were spikes, one was a throwaway, and another was a pass where he was hit as he threw the ball, his adjusted completion percentage of 79.2 percent looks much better. White was the team’s highest-graded quarterback in 2015, and was the only quarterback on the team with a positive grade as a passer. It’s going to be interesting to see if he can win the job, after some shaky performances to end the season, but it’s not like he hasn’t flashed some very good play in the past.

In light of what PFF put out, I will change my Sean White Arkansas game to solid outing not great.


They didn't account for Arkansas being one of the worst defenses and overlooked some exceptional catches that offset the drops. That said, the spikes and throwaway should count for something