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Posted on 6/1/15 at 11:39 am
Posted on 6/1/15 at 11:39 am
No link but I feel that's bad news for us - in a year we will have gone from their bellcow to sitting being ND and UT. Would that make talks with Adidas more serious? I like UA products a heck of a lot better, but I'm not an athlete
Also I expect this to turn into a basketball thread
Also I expect this to turn into a basketball thread
Posted on 6/1/15 at 11:49 am to TheSandman
I think we'll still get paid pretty good. You don't want to start losing teams right now if you're Under Armour
They're going to want a big SEC team still too.
They're going to want a big SEC team still too.
This post was edited on 6/1/15 at 11:50 am
Posted on 6/1/15 at 11:58 am to Weagle25
quote:Exactly. They should be rewarding us for growing their image (and giving them data/feedback on their products) to the point that other big programs are interested in them. I don't see UnderArmour giving us the shaft.
I think we'll still get paid pretty good. You don't want to start losing teams right now if you're Under Armour
And please sweet baby Jesus, don't cast us off to ADIDAS
Posted on 6/1/15 at 12:00 pm to The Nino
Need to go back to Russell Athletic. Old school.
Posted on 6/1/15 at 12:07 pm to Weagle25
Exactly. We can't expect UA not to grow. But AU was one of the first big school to use them as an outfitter. I would think we would still get special treatment.
Addidas sucks and so does Nike. I'm all UA.
That would be a big move anyway for Texas with Nike as their outfitter. Don't see it happening.
Addidas sucks and so does Nike. I'm all UA.
That would be a big move anyway for Texas with Nike as their outfitter. Don't see it happening.
Posted on 6/1/15 at 12:07 pm to Pavoloco83
I'd rather take the millions
Posted on 6/1/15 at 1:06 pm to AUtigerNOLA
I believe we have a poster pretty knowledgeable on the subject.
Hate to say it guys, but it doesn't get any better for us now that they're signing more and more. We have less leverage. I don't know if our $ will necessarily reduce in the future, but fact is that it won't grow as fast as it would have if we were still their top (or very close to) sponsorship.
Hate to say it guys, but it doesn't get any better for us now that they're signing more and more. We have less leverage. I don't know if our $ will necessarily reduce in the future, but fact is that it won't grow as fast as it would have if we were still their top (or very close to) sponsorship.
Posted on 6/1/15 at 1:18 pm to Swoopin
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I believe we have a poster pretty knowledgeable on the subject
I know at least a few others know a good bit about this but I used to know a ton but little outdated. I can give some decent speculation/answer thoughts
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But AU was one of the first big school to use them as an outfitter. I would think we would still get special treatment.
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They should be rewarding us for growing their image
While this makes sense, our negotiating strategy in the past won't let this be the case. We did a "scorched earth" strategy in which we bullied Under Armour into giving us a legit deal because they "needed" us at the time we signed. Unless they have a new legal/contracts team in past 6 months, I know they "haven't forgotten." We did not generate any good will that would pay off in the long run for being an original sponsorship
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I think we'll still get paid pretty good. You don't want to start losing teams right now if you're Under Armour
While we no longer are the feather in UA's hat, we definitely are not someone they will be willing to lose. We are a top 15 contract in the SEC, where their only other presence is the relatively smaller market/draw in USCe.
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giving them data/feedback on their products
One thing in our favor is that Auburn has been funneling people to Under Armour corporate. There are quite a large number of Auburn sympathizers in the company now that have good working relationsihps on equipment/style/athlete funneling.
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Hate to say it guys, but it doesn't get any better for us now that they're signing more and more. We have less leverage. I don't know if our $ will necessarily reduce in the future, but fact is that it won't grow as fast as it would have if we were still their top (or very close to) sponsorship.
We are still one of their horses for sponsorship, our athletics is in a better spot than ND/UT at the moment and getting more exposure in the media and we are a great contract in our own right.
Previously, we would get fringe 5/top 8 contracts. We are about 13-15 in terms of value (how UA ranks now obscure "money" ranks). We likely will start consistently signing 8-12 contracts
This post was edited on 6/1/15 at 1:19 pm
Posted on 6/1/15 at 1:23 pm to GenesChin
Everything above comes from numerous conversations months ago with two people that "sit at the table" and one would be considered one of the "key decision makers."
We will be fine on the contract, we just aren't going to be given a sweetheart deal anymore and valued slightly above market value, not well above.
We will be fine on the contract, we just aren't going to be given a sweetheart deal anymore and valued slightly above market value, not well above.
Posted on 6/1/15 at 4:16 pm to TheSandman
Good for them. It's mutually beneficial for UnderArmour to grow their brand.
Posted on 6/1/15 at 5:14 pm to GenesChin
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sense, our negotiating strategy in the past won't let this be the case. We did a "scorched earth" strategy in which we bullied Under Armour into giving us a legit deal because they "needed" us at the time we signed. Unless they have a new legal/contracts team in past 6 months, I know they "haven't forgotten
From what I was told this isn't true. It was a heated negotiation as all negotiations that big are but there weren't any hard feelings afterwards. This coming from one of the guys who negotiated the contract and had dinner with the CEO of UA and other executives afterwards.
Posted on 6/1/15 at 5:29 pm to Weagle25
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It was a heated negotiation as all negotiations that big are but there weren't any hard feelings afterwards.
My info is from right before the meat of the last contract negotiations started. I don't know the end result so I'll trust what you say
All I know is that one of the main negotiators from AU was concerned going in since he was the one who pulled the "You need us more than we need you" card and said UA at the time wasn't appreciative of that the last go round.
This post was edited on 6/1/15 at 5:30 pm
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