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Posted on 9/26/16 at 1:12 pm to WareagleKK
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You my boy on here...but I disagree. I think he's a solid SEC QB. He's not dynamic, but with our defense and special teams, we can win a lot of games with solid QB play. The kicker with White is that him being the guy will require I great mix of run-pass than Lashlee/Gus are used to. They need to allow him to pass on 1st down more often than 4 out of 33 times like they did vs. LSU. I think Lashlee mixed up the passing game much better than Gus had been doing and this led to a very good performance by White. Going 19-26 with a few drops by Stevens isn't bad at all. Stevens also dropped what should've been a TD.
The stats actually disprove this...Rhett kept it closer to 70% runs than Gus has since 2013.
This post was edited on 9/26/16 at 3:13 pm
Posted on 9/26/16 at 1:46 pm to MrAUTigers
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The one in the left side of the end zone hit him in both hands and then his elbows
That was at the 2 yard line though.
The right side is weird in that it would have been an incredible play but he should have caught it.
Posted on 9/26/16 at 1:48 pm to GenesChin
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That was at the 2 yard line though.
Not if he puts his hands up instead of trying to catch it like a punt.
Posted on 9/26/16 at 1:54 pm to The_SwAUggford
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That was 100% a TD if Tony just holds on. Tre White's back was turned and he didn't even contest the throw. Sean made an awesome back shoulder throw against a very competitive corner and Tony failed him.
I'll start by saying that wasnt a horrible throw on a demanding pass. Few things where we disagree
White wasn't playing the ball so his back being turned isn't wrong. Also, That would have been absurd catch had Stevens caught that while jumping over White. Few CFB WRs can even position themselves to make that play
An "Awesome" throw on a fade route is putting more air on the ball. If the WR has to turn and reach back for the ball it isn't "awesome" almost by definition
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hopefully you recognize that Sean hitting Stevens in the hands on the 2 yard line was Sean making a nice redzone play
No arguments, just not a TD
Posted on 9/26/16 at 3:32 pm to GenesChin
quote:you either werent at the game or you are basing this opinion on what you saw from the TV broadcast. Either way, you are wrong. It was a very catchable ball. The defender over ran the play when Tony stopped and the ball bounced off of Tony's chest, right through his hands. It should have been caught. The replay in the stadium showed as much.
That would have been absurd catch had Stevens caught that while jumping over White. Few CFB WRs can even position themselves to make that play
Posted on 9/26/16 at 4:28 pm to The_SwAUggford
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I disagree our running game needs to be dynamic. That would open up alot in the passing game. But a mix of play calling and oline troubles are fricking that up.
Sure U been watching this years AU ?
Running has been given the opportunity! That's damn near the only part of the 'O' that's been given an opportunity. To the tune of like 1/2 of the all down's (a guess based on the every popular run on 1 and 2 pass on 3 then punt it away).
Posted on 9/26/16 at 4:35 pm to ChexMix
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Either way, you are wrong. It was a very catchable ball. The defender over ran the play when Tony stopped and the ball bounced off of Tony's chest
On a ball Stevens expects to be high and towards the back corner of the endzone, this is a lot of readjusting to lower trajectory and DB right underneath/ "ran out of the play"
This post was edited on 9/26/16 at 4:38 pm
Posted on 9/26/16 at 4:41 pm to GenesChin
It does seem when White tries to put some air under the ball it sails on him or makes the receiver come back to it. That to me is where him seeing passing play reps will let him improve to more than servicable. Add in a couple of good freshman WR getting up to speed and I think the offense could go much bigger behind an improving OL.
Posted on 9/26/16 at 4:46 pm to GenesChin
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You could try again but you'll find that true freshman QBs historically are garbage. That's why Jalen Hurts being average is getting so much praise
You serious?
Jalen hurt has a way different package, a way different line, a way different coordinator, a way different stable of running backs, and been coached up to succeed. Which adds up to whole different scenario than most true freshmen ever see. Nearly a setup that almost no one ever gets. You could probably win games at QB with what he has around him... not to belittle the guy... he's simply in a position to win.
Posted on 9/26/16 at 4:49 pm to GenesChin
Like i said, you are basing your opinion on the TV broadcast viewpoint, and not what the replay in the stadium showed. The ball clearly bounced off TS chest after going through his hands. LSU defender didnt touch the ball at all. It should have been caught
Also, freeze frame the pic when the ball actually bounces off TS...that way you can prove me wrong that the LSU defender didnt run past the play...
I will wait.
Also, freeze frame the pic when the ball actually bounces off TS...that way you can prove me wrong that the LSU defender didnt run past the play...
I will wait.
Posted on 9/26/16 at 5:08 pm to ChexMix
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I will wait.
Stevens had to make the catch over White. Stevens had to decide to try and jump over White well before the ball came anyways
If Tony Stevens could perfectly read a DB mid play, he would be making a lot more money in the NFL right now even with his drop issue
This post was edited on 9/26/16 at 5:12 pm
Posted on 9/26/16 at 5:13 pm to GenesChin
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I agree totally... the LSU defender was definitely guilty of pass interference that was uncalled.
Posted on 9/26/16 at 5:18 pm to beatbammer
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I agree totally... the LSU defender was definitely guilty of pass interference that was uncalled.
LSU DB's head appears turned around. That isn't PI if so
Can't be PI cause according to Chex, White wasn't even involved in the play he overran it so much
This post was edited on 9/26/16 at 5:19 pm
Posted on 9/26/16 at 5:22 pm to GenesChin
So the ball is clearly in his hands with the defender not in the way of Tony catching the ball.
And the route was not a fade, it was purposefully under thrown similar to the previous weeks play where Sean threw a back shoulder TD pass to Tony.
Posted on 9/26/16 at 5:36 pm to ChexMix
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So the ball is clearly in his hands with the defender not in the way of Tony catching the ball.
Yes, Tony Stevens very clearly jumped over White and tried making a difficult play on the ball if that is what you are saying
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it was purposefully under thrown similar to the previous weeks play where Sean threw a back shoulder TD pass to Tony.
That TD you are referring to was a broken play where SW and TSteve did a great job finding each other in what can be described as a sandlot football situation
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And the route was not a fade
Didn't realize we renamed vertical routes up the sidelines with an outside release
This post was edited on 9/26/16 at 5:40 pm
Posted on 9/26/16 at 5:50 pm to GenesChin
quote:there's a lot of things you just dont realize....like Sean White is a good Qb or Tony Stephens dropped a TD pass that went through his hands and bounced off his chest or our red zone play calling is a major contributor to the lack of TDs for our offense.
Didn't realize we renamed vertical routes up the sidelines with an outside release
You are now enlightened. You're welcome
Posted on 9/26/16 at 5:52 pm to ChexMix
So I take that as your acknowledgement that it was a fade route
Posted on 9/26/16 at 5:55 pm to GenesChin
quote:It was a hitch and go, but whatever.
So I take that as your acknowledgement that it was a fade route
Glad you finally conceded that Sean is a good Qb. I'm proud of ya
Posted on 9/26/16 at 6:03 pm to ChexMix
I concede SW is a good QB. He plays with moxy and grit and he makes timely throws. In the redzone though, for the second straight year, SW doesn't do anything. The playcalling doesn't benefit SW either but when we desperately need a TD and we're still not utilizing SW, that tells me we're not letting SW have his chances by design. Why
This post was edited on 9/26/16 at 6:16 pm
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