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One Thing That Hasn't Changed: Defense

Posted on 9/22/13 at 9:06 am
Posted by Aubie Spr96
lolwut?
Member since Dec 2009
41050 posts
Posted on 9/22/13 at 9:06 am
1. Florida 212.3
2. Arkansas 289.8
3. LSU 310.0
3. Mississippi State 310.0
5. Ole Miss 332.7
6. Vanderbilt 363.8
7. South Carolina 365.7
8. Kentucky 367.0
9. Alabama 373.0
10. Missouri 386.3
11. Georgia 388.7
12. Tennessee 418.3
13. Auburn 439.5
14. Texas A&M 475.3

Posted by bawbarn
Member since Jul 2012
3688 posts
Posted on 9/22/13 at 9:11 am to
There has been improvement. Young guys look pretty good. You aren't going to change the past 4 years over night. Auburn is very below average at the LB position.
Posted by WDE24
Member since Oct 2010
54132 posts
Posted on 9/22/13 at 9:20 am to
There are flashes of good d, but way too inconsistent. The d line is up and down. The secondary is vastly improved and pretty good. The lbs are unacceptably bad.
Posted by AUsteriskPride
Albuquerque, NM
Member since Feb 2011
18385 posts
Posted on 9/22/13 at 9:28 am to
2012 Scoring D through 4 games: 23.5 ppg

2013 Scoring D through 4 games: 22 ppg

2012 TFL through 4 games: 20

2013 TFL through 4 games: 28


2012 INTs through 4 games: 1

2013 INTs through 4 games: 4


2012 passes broken up through 4 games: 17

2013 passes broken up through 4 games: 19

2012 QB hurries through 4 games: 26

2013 QB hurries through 4 games: 41


2012 Turnovers gained through 4 games: 4

2013 Turnovers gained through 4 games: 6


The D isn't world beaters, but there are definite vast improvements over last year. You can't really do shite without a MLB. The young D linemen are getting pressure at times, and the CBs are actually making plays on the ball. I'm also seeing far fewer missed tackles excluding Holland.
This post was edited on 9/22/13 at 9:40 am
Posted by AUtigR24
Happy Hour
Member since Apr 2011
19755 posts
Posted on 9/22/13 at 9:33 am to
We have 2 weeks to prepare for Bro Wallace. He'll still probably gash us on the ground
Posted by TheChiznit
Sugar Hill, GA
Member since Feb 2010
2174 posts
Posted on 9/22/13 at 9:33 am to
Tre Williams will be a nice addition.
Posted by Aubie Spr96
lolwut?
Member since Dec 2009
41050 posts
Posted on 9/22/13 at 9:34 am to
quote:

There has been improvement.


Here are the 2012 stats:

1 Alabama 250.0
2 Florida 286.7
3 LSU 307.6
4 South Carolina 315.5
5 Vanderbilt 333.9
6 Georgia 357.8
7 Mississippi 375.8
8 State 387.4
9 Texas A&M 390.2
10 Missouri 390.7
11 Kentucky 391.4
12 Arkansas 409.9
13 Auburn 420.5
14 Tennessee 471.3

Posted by AUsteriskPride
Albuquerque, NM
Member since Feb 2011
18385 posts
Posted on 9/22/13 at 9:36 am to
quote:

Tre Williams will be a nice addition.


The most important single recruit since Cam Newton IMO.
Posted by AUsteriskPride
Albuquerque, NM
Member since Feb 2011
18385 posts
Posted on 9/22/13 at 9:38 am to
quote:

Aubie Spr96


You're looking at total D on a team with the HUNH. You'll always be depressed if you look at that number, it's just the reality of the situation.
Posted by CaptainBrannigan
Good Ole Rocky Top Tennessee
Member since Jan 2010
21644 posts
Posted on 9/22/13 at 10:23 am to
The safety position looked bad also. At least one of those long runs was Whitehead's fault. He sucks too.
Posted by lowspark12
nashville, tn
Member since Aug 2009
22365 posts
Posted on 9/22/13 at 10:26 am to
You must've missed his INT then... Great play on the ball.
Posted by CaptainBrannigan
Good Ole Rocky Top Tennessee
Member since Jan 2010
21644 posts
Posted on 9/22/13 at 10:39 am to
Meh. He is still directly responsible for 7 points on the board
Posted by Rig
BHM
Member since Aug 2011
41856 posts
Posted on 9/22/13 at 10:46 am to
quote:

He is still directly responsible for 7 points on the board



Shouldn't the blame go on the front 7 for putting Whitehead in the position to miss a tackle/take a bad angle?

It's not like Hill magically appeared in the secondary EDIT: That play was a lost cause before Hill even reached Whitehead's area
This post was edited on 9/22/13 at 10:47 am
Posted by Aubie Spr96
lolwut?
Member since Dec 2009
41050 posts
Posted on 9/22/13 at 10:57 am to
quote:

You're looking at total D on a team with the HUNH. You'll always be depressed if you look at that number, it's just the reality of the situation.



I don't accept this ascertion. While we might not ever be the number one defense in the league, I think we can be a top five defense.
Posted by marshallcotiger
Member since Dec 2009
7954 posts
Posted on 9/22/13 at 11:11 am to
quote:

Shouldn't the blame go on the front 7 for putting Whitehead in the position to miss a tackle/take a bad angle?


LSU's OL is going to open those holes against everybody. It is the safties job to limit those plays to 10-15 yard gains instead of long Td runs. Whitehead and especially Holsey are playing out of position but they have to limit those gains. They both missed tackles on long runs by Hill and have struggled all year in run support.
Posted by Rig
BHM
Member since Aug 2011
41856 posts
Posted on 9/22/13 at 11:55 am to
You have to blame LB play. Safeties shouldn't be called upon as many time as ours to try and help stop the run. It's simply not their job. I don't care if we're playing LSU or directional state.
Posted by NC1406
Member since Jul 2013
656 posts
Posted on 9/22/13 at 12:22 pm to
Three of the four offenses we have faced this year are pretty good. Those teams are going to put yards and points up on most all defenses not just ours.
Posted by CaptainBrannigan
Good Ole Rocky Top Tennessee
Member since Jan 2010
21644 posts
Posted on 9/22/13 at 12:38 pm to
quote:

Safeties shouldn't be called upon as many time as ours to try and help stop the run. It's simply not their job


Well that us simply not true. And shows how little you actually know about football.
Posted by AUTiger5
Close, but yet so far away
Member since Jul 2011
2602 posts
Posted on 9/22/13 at 12:40 pm to
quote:

Three of the four offenses we have faced this year are pretty good. Those teams are going to put yards and points up on most all defenses not just ours.


Arkansas St. and Washington St. shouldn't be moving the ball like that against good SEC defenses on the road, and Wazzu and Miss. St. were both one-dimensional. I'll give you LSU. That offensive line is good, and those backs are beastly.

But what else does it have to take to get Montravius Adams and Kris Frost as the anchor of our defense up the middle? Am I missing something? Adams may be a little raw, but he's an absolute beast at DT. He gets in the backfield every other play it seems and wreaks a lot of havoc. And how many more times do the coaches have to watch Jake Holland just flat out suck before Frost gets a shot as the full-time starter? Frost may not always be exactly where he's supposed to be, but Holland is seemingly always where he's supposed to be, yet can't ever make a play. Frost is supremely athletic and can run. Our defense is what it is for the most part, but it's time to give the majority of the reps to our best players.

Watching our upperclassmen get blown off the ball and completely whiff on most tackles is getting very old.
This post was edited on 9/22/13 at 12:41 pm
Posted by Kodar
Alabama
Member since Nov 2012
4558 posts
Posted on 9/22/13 at 1:11 pm to
quote:

Watching our upperclassmen get blown off the ball and completely whiff on most tackles is getting very old.
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