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Ohio State vs. SEC (AUBURN): Why Buckeyes would be South's most talented team

Posted on 7/22/15 at 8:54 am
Posted by atlau
Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 7/22/15 at 8:54 am
He uses AU since they were voted to win the SEC during media days.

I don't know Ohio State players well enough, but the fact he mentions Lawson would be 2nd string leads me to wonder.

Trying to remember if Bruce Feldman is an Auburn hater like Thayer Evans.

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Posted by lowspark12
nashville, tn
Member since Aug 2009
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Posted on 7/22/15 at 8:57 am to
Feldmans not an auburn hater, but he's not a talent evaluator either...
Posted by rbWarEagle
Member since Nov 2009
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Posted on 7/22/15 at 9:01 am to
Ohio State is the team the talking heads have been waiting for to stand up to the SEC. The love fest for them is no surprise. Alabama wasn't great last year, but everyone thinks Ohio State would come out of an SEC slate undefeated. I don't buy it. Their weak arse schedule will always give them an opportunity for success, though.
Posted by atlau
Member since Oct 2012
5264 posts
Posted on 7/22/15 at 9:02 am to
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Feldmans not an auburn hater, but he's not a talent evaluator either...


This particular article certainly doesn't come across like he's hating on AU. I couldn't remember if he has written shite about AU in the past.
Posted by atlau
Member since Oct 2012
5264 posts
Posted on 7/22/15 at 9:03 am to
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Ohio State is the team the talking heads have been waiting for to stand up to the SEC. The love fest for them is no surprise. Alabama wasn't great last year, but everyone thinks Ohio State would come out of an SEC slate undefeated. I don't buy it. Their weak arse schedule will always give them an opportunity for success, though.


AU is 2-0 versus Urban Meyer coached teams.
Posted by AUCE05
Member since Dec 2009
42548 posts
Posted on 7/22/15 at 9:11 am to
Urban is the best coach in the country. This isn't a stretch.
Posted by Tigerman97
Member since Jun 2014
10354 posts
Posted on 7/22/15 at 10:18 am to
I would love to get a shot at Meyer with Champ on the sidelines again. That was an awesome game.
Posted by FearlessFreep
Baja Alabama
Member since Nov 2009
17264 posts
Posted on 7/22/15 at 11:19 am to
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Urban is the best emotionally unstable coach in the country.
FIFY.
Posted by AUCE05
Member since Dec 2009
42548 posts
Posted on 7/22/15 at 11:31 am to
3 NC, undefeated seasons at BG and Utah, and a 9-2 bowl record. He is in a tier of his own. Would stand to reason any team he coaches would dominate the SEC, or any conference. If/when Gus leaves for the NFL, JJ better call him and gauge his interest in coming back to the SEC. Being a pain to Saban and the SEC west might be enough to peak his interest. I doubt he coaches for money at this point.
Posted by FearlessFreep
Baja Alabama
Member since Nov 2009
17264 posts
Posted on 7/22/15 at 11:53 am to
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If/when Gus leaves for the NFL, JJ better call him and gauge his interest in coming back to the SEC.
Can't argue with his on-field record, but I disagree about hiring him.

The shite he pulled at Florida puts me off of him. I think he'll eventually crack under the pressure in his current gig, just like he did in '10. But I could be wrong.
Posted by BowlJackson
Birmingham, AL
Member since Sep 2013
52881 posts
Posted on 7/22/15 at 1:14 pm to
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the fact he mentions Lawson would be 2nd string leads me to wonder.


That's not what he says at all. He said Lawson would be the second best DE behind Joey Bosa, which you can't really argue at this point, meaning he would be the other starter at DE.

He has 6 Auburn players that would start for OSU:

WR- Duke Williams
RT- Avery Young
DE- Carl Lawson
DT- Monty Adams
MLB- Cass McKinzy
CB- Jonathan Jones


In reality I think we'd have a few more. I'd say 9-10 of our guys would start.
-I think Alex Kozan would start if 100%. He has a rising sophomore who was their own freshman All-American over Kozan. He calls that kid a "powerhous". Braden Smith is also a SO and I have a hard time believing anybody could be more of a powerhouse than Braden. I think both our OG's would have a good shot to start
-Kris Frost. I know he gets a lot of crap here, but he's one of the top draft prospects at OLB and a SR so you'd think he could grab at least one OLB spot anywhere.
-Tray Matthews. He doesn't really mention the safety position I don't know who OSU has, but you'd have to think he'd have a good shot vs anybody they have.

Regarding JJ, I think he's a better pure QB, better pro prospect, and will have a better NFL career than any of OSU's 3 QB's. But there's no way you can make an argument for him to start vs those guys right now. He also doesn't fit Meyer's offense as well as any of them, he isn't as good of a runner. I have no idea where he would fall on their depth chart, but he wouldn't beat out all 3 in that system.
Posted by gussler
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Member since Jan 2015
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Posted on 7/22/15 at 1:37 pm to
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Regarding JJ, I think he's a better pure QB, better pro prospect, and will have a better NFL career than any of OSU's 3 QB's. But there's no way you can make an argument for him to start vs those guys right now.


You just did though.

I think it's cheap to assume JJ couldn't start simply because they have three very good QBs. Maybe JJ is better?
Posted by RandySavage
Member since May 2012
30806 posts
Posted on 7/22/15 at 8:50 pm to
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think he'll eventually crack under the pressure in his current gig, just like he did in '10. But I could be wrong.


He doesn't have much pressure at his current gig, that's why he's there.

Unless Harbaugh can resurrect Michigan Urban is going to have to royally F up to not be in the playoff almost every year.
Posted by BowlJackson
Birmingham, AL
Member since Sep 2013
52881 posts
Posted on 7/22/15 at 8:58 pm to
Harbaugh will have Michigan back in short order. Penn State is off sanctions. Michigan State is on an impressive run. Wisconsin is Wisconsin. Ferentz is out at Iowa after this year and they have a large pool of alumni turned good coaches to pull from. Nebraska has a new coach. The pressure will be on Urbs in the B1G big time in 3 years. Similar timeframe to his exit from UF...
Posted by higgs_boson
State College, PA
Member since Sep 2014
22454 posts
Posted on 7/22/15 at 9:57 pm to
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He doesn't have much pressure at his current gig, that's why he's there.

Unless Harbaugh can resurrect Michigan Urban is going to have to royally F up to not be in the playoff almost every year.


Penn State is coming back as well. I do not know if any you watched that game last year, but Franklin got hosed by the bad calls.
Posted by Pavoloco83
Acworth Ga. too many damn dawgs
Member since Nov 2013
15347 posts
Posted on 7/22/15 at 10:44 pm to
I was in Columbus Ohio today on business ironically. tOSU is scrong. However, I like Gus's chances against any Meyer coached team. Perhaps we'll meet them post season.

Also tOSU's schedule is pussy stuff compared to an SEC schedule. frick the B1G.
Posted by jsmoove
Member since Oct 2010
12627 posts
Posted on 7/24/15 at 2:52 pm to
Ohio St shouldn't even have a halfway shot at a playoff invite with that schedule again, much less with a loss. It drives me nuts. Not that it's so much Cryer's fault (they have Oregon St, OU, and TCU in the future), but funny how every year in the little 10, rarely do the 3-4 teams that are worth a crap in their weakass conference all play each other. Ohio just conveniently doesn't have to play Wisconsin. Next year will be the first time since 2012, and in 2017, nope, and off the schedule again until '19.
Posted by joeyb147
Member since Jun 2009
16019 posts
Posted on 7/24/15 at 2:56 pm to
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Ohio just conveniently doesn't have to play Wisconsin. Next year will be the first time since 2012
not sure if srs
Posted by GenesChin
The Promise Land
Member since Feb 2012
37704 posts
Posted on 7/25/15 at 6:48 am to
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You just did though.

I think it's cheap to assume JJ couldn't start simply because they have three very good QBs. Maybe JJ is better?


Writer basically said JJ should be good he just can't put him as starter over what OSU has which is record setting Big10 POY JT Barrett and NC winning out of nowhere stud Cardelle Jones

We base our JJ hype off a couple quarters he's played. OSU has two guys that dominated against top competition so much that Braxton Miller, former Big10 POY moved positions
Posted by Warfarer
Dothan, AL
Member since May 2010
12112 posts
Posted on 7/25/15 at 7:42 am to
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Harbaugh will have Michigan back in short order.


This is the most interesting thing to me. As of now, Meyer hasn't had anyone challenging him for those B1G recruits or coaching and now Harbaugh can do both from a traditional powerhouse. Harbaugh will start on defense and make them stout and add in the offense over a couple years. They will be a very strong team under him but it will take time to 180 an oddball group of offensive players.

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Penn State is off sanctions.


with a good coach. I don't think they have the ability to go as high as Michigan and OSU but they can certainly make it tougher with Franklin.

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Michigan State is on an impressive run.


Are they good because they are good or because the rest of the conference has been shite. Add in a few more good teams to make those tough games tighter and will they keep playing well? We'll see on that.

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Wisconsin is Wisconsin.


And always will be.

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The pressure will be on Urbs in the B1G big time in 3 years. Similar timeframe to his exit from UF...


It will pick up but it will never be like the arms race that was the SEC in the mid 2000s to late 2000s where every team went out of their way to hire big time coaches that could recruit and coach at the top of their fields. He just won't ever have 10 teams in the B1G that can beat him in any week and the others won't be able to physically beat him up in a loss like the SEC can.
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