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Offensive Recruits "Busts" under Malzahn

Posted on 9/15/17 at 1:31 pm
Posted by WildWillie
Member since Aug 2015
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Posted on 9/15/17 at 1:31 pm
Some of y'all follow recruiting a lot more than me, so I'd appreciate any input on a question I have:

Is it just me or do Gus' offensive recruits "bust" much more than at other SEC schools?

I note:
Kiehl Frazier - 5 star
JJ - 4 star
Sean White - 4 star
Woody Barrett - 4 star
Michael Dyer - 5 star
Trovon Reed - 5 star
Antonio Goodwin - 4 star
Shaun Kitchens - 4 star
Jovon Robinson - 5 star
Roc Thomas - 5 star
Duke Williams - 5 star

And jury still out on Nate Craig-Myers and Kyle Davis.

Do all programs miss so much on recruits and/or have players with trouble with law/violating team rules?

It seems like our defensive recruits have panned out much better (Lawson, Adams, tre Williams, Carlton Davis, D Brown, Davidson, etc).


This post was edited on 9/15/17 at 1:35 pm
Posted by Weagle25
THE Football State.
Member since Oct 2011
46174 posts
Posted on 9/15/17 at 1:34 pm to
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Michael Dyer - 5 star

Not a bust

And 6 non-QB recruits and 10 total turning into busts would be a damn low number for 7 years. I'm pretty sure he's had more though.

quote:

It seems like our defensive recruits have panned out much better (Lawson, Adams, tre Williams, Carlton Davis, D Brown, Davidson, etc).

Which is funny considering what's been said in the recruiting thread the past 2-3 years
This post was edited on 9/15/17 at 1:42 pm
Posted by AUtigR24
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Posted on 9/15/17 at 2:19 pm to


4* Quan Bray
4* Sean White
4* Corey Grant
4* Tony Stevens
4* Ryan Davis

May as well add NCM and KD to the list.

Malzahns offense does not utilize it's talent unless you're the feature back. We dink and dunk until third down then put our qb in ugly situations.
Posted by Weagle25
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Member since Oct 2011
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Posted on 9/15/17 at 2:39 pm to
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4* Quan Bray

Also not a bust
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4* Corey Grant

Not a bust
Posted by atlau
Member since Oct 2012
5264 posts
Posted on 9/15/17 at 2:41 pm to
Dyer, Robinson, Duke and Grant are not busts.

The first three guys were involved in disciplinary issues. Dyer under Chizik and Duke under CGM. Robinson caught a really bad break.

Disciplinary issues doesn't equal bust, if you're talking about talent.

Grant plays on Sundays.
Posted by AuburnTigers
Member since Aug 2013
6934 posts
Posted on 9/15/17 at 2:42 pm to
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Sean White - 4 star
What the frick is this shite.
Posted by Weagle25
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Member since Oct 2011
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Posted on 9/15/17 at 2:47 pm to
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Disciplinary issues doesn't equal bust,

Yes they do. In Dyer's case, we got enough production out of him before his issues that he's not a bust.


I don't even know what he's thinking labeling Grant as a bust
Posted by blzr
Keeneland
Member since Mar 2011
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Posted on 9/15/17 at 2:51 pm to
You're dumb
Posted by Pettifogger
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Member since Feb 2012
79032 posts
Posted on 9/15/17 at 3:02 pm to
It's really easy to shite on Gus without exaggeration, I don't know why people are taking these extra steps
Posted by GenesChin
The Promise Land
Member since Feb 2012
37704 posts
Posted on 9/15/17 at 3:08 pm to
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Kiehl Frazier - 5 star


4 Star ESPN 247 Rivals

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Trovon Reed - 5 star


Trovon Reed 4 Star ESPN Rivals

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Shaun Kitchens - 4 star


Some people had as low as 3* like Rivals LINK

Posted by GenesChin
The Promise Land
Member since Feb 2012
37704 posts
Posted on 9/15/17 at 3:10 pm to
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Yes they do. In Dyer's case, we got enough production out of him before his issues that he's not a bust.


Agreed.

I'd still say Duke wasn't a bust too. He was super productive in 2014 pre injury + everyone knew what they were getting with him.

Posted by AUtigerNOLA
New Orleans, LA
Member since Apr 2011
17107 posts
Posted on 9/15/17 at 3:10 pm to
Yep. Its always annoying when someone lists Kiehl as a 5 star. That was on Scout only.
Posted by Weagle25
THE Football State.
Member since Oct 2011
46174 posts
Posted on 9/15/17 at 3:51 pm to
I think they need to do a 6 star system or bump 3 stars down to 2 stars and some 4 stars down to 3.

There's a pretty big difference between high 4 stars and low 4 stars as far as expectations go
Posted by Bow to Auburn
Member since Aug 2010
1830 posts
Posted on 9/15/17 at 4:03 pm to
This is getting out of hand...
Posted by AUtigR24
Happy Hour
Member since Apr 2011
19755 posts
Posted on 9/15/17 at 4:39 pm to
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4* Quan Bray


quote:

Also not a bust


853 yards and 7 touchdowns would be great for a single season but that was his entire career #bust


Yall do realize guys at Tennessee, Oklahoma, Bama ect eclipse these numbers in a single season? Sometimes even multiple guys on the same team. Gus's offense is so bad it's tainted our perception of whats acceptable. Fred freaking Ross at Moo State had like 1000 yards and 12 touchdowns last season. Kyle Davis and NCM should both have those type numbers every year but we're happy just to see them get a target each game

Posted by allin2010
Auburn
Member since Aug 2011
18149 posts
Posted on 9/15/17 at 4:54 pm to
Every school has bust, look at Alabama's 5 star QB bust. At least three in the last year or two. Many of the names you mentioned were not true bust. Dyer was the MVP of our National Championship game.
This post was edited on 9/15/17 at 4:55 pm
Posted by RockyMtnTigerWDE
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Member since Oct 2010
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Posted on 9/15/17 at 5:08 pm to
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It's really easy to shite on Gus without exaggeration, I don't know why people are taking these extra steps


Truth

The board has gone full retard
Posted by lowspark12
nashville, tn
Member since Aug 2009
22365 posts
Posted on 9/15/17 at 5:10 pm to
It's the internet... that's why people do. Get mad online.
Posted by RockyMtnTigerWDE
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Posted on 9/16/17 at 8:52 am to
Wow, now that was amazing insight.
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