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Looking back at recruiting classes from 2012-2013
Posted on 10/7/15 at 2:40 pm
Posted on 10/7/15 at 2:40 pm
These should be our juniors/seniors and 5th year seniors. 8 out of 24. that is a .333 average. We are busting on 66% of our top recruits.
2012 4 or 5 stars - we hit on 4 out of 13 so far
Holsey - injured
Jovon - juco
Ricardo - good
Kozan - good
Diamond - bust
Cass - good
JaQuay Williams - non qualifier
Javierre Mitchell - Bust
Ricky Parks - Bust
Shane Callahan - Bust
Patrick Miller - LOL
Tyler Nero - Bust
Avery Young - good
2013 4 & 5 stars - we hit 4 out of 11
Monty - good
Lawson - bust
Ben Bradley - good
Elijah Daniel - Bust
Ford - good
CAP - good
Tony Stevens - Bust
Deon Mix - Bust
Earnest Robinson - Bust
Jason Smith - JUCO
Jeremy Johnson - Bust
Also busts from 2011 - could have been 5th year seniors
Jaylon Denson
Erique Florence
Brandon Fulse
Christian Westerman
Jonathan Rose
2012 4 or 5 stars - we hit on 4 out of 13 so far
Holsey - injured
Jovon - juco
Ricardo - good
Kozan - good
Diamond - bust
Cass - good
JaQuay Williams - non qualifier
Javierre Mitchell - Bust
Ricky Parks - Bust
Shane Callahan - Bust
Patrick Miller - LOL
Tyler Nero - Bust
Avery Young - good
2013 4 & 5 stars - we hit 4 out of 11
Monty - good
Lawson - bust
Ben Bradley - good
Elijah Daniel - Bust
Ford - good
CAP - good
Tony Stevens - Bust
Deon Mix - Bust
Earnest Robinson - Bust
Jason Smith - JUCO
Jeremy Johnson - Bust
Also busts from 2011 - could have been 5th year seniors
Jaylon Denson
Erique Florence
Brandon Fulse
Christian Westerman
Jonathan Rose
This post was edited on 10/7/15 at 2:49 pm
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Posted on 10/7/15 at 2:49 pm to AuburnCPA
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Patrick Miller - LOL
He is still on a NFL practice squad despite being a backup. He looked awesome in the Iron Bowl and should have been a starter for us this year with Avery Young at OG. I blame the coaches
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Ben Bradley - good
Finally someone gives some love to Bradley. He was never "supposed" to be an elite DT for us with Wright/Blackson. That said, Ben Bradley was great in run situations and his awkward flailing arms when chasing the QB was always fun to watch. Looked like old school NFL Blitz
Posted on 10/7/15 at 2:51 pm to AuburnCPA
for comparison Bama is hitting on 22/34 for 2012-2013 for a 65% average.
8/24 for Auburn - 33%
22/34 for Alabama - 64%
they are playing with 14 more experienced older 4 and 5 stars than us.
8/24 for Auburn - 33%
22/34 for Alabama - 64%
they are playing with 14 more experienced older 4 and 5 stars than us.
Posted on 10/7/15 at 2:53 pm to AuburnCPA
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Lawson - bust
Injuries dont = bust.
Posted on 10/7/15 at 3:01 pm to AuburnCPA
The 2014 class seems to show a good bit of improvement from this. Granted, I haven't broken it down. I think this will improve in the next couple of years, too. We have the right staff to fix it.
Posted on 10/7/15 at 3:16 pm to AuburnCPA
I think they sell the idea of competition to earn a spot in playing rotation better than anyone. They are stockpiled with talent and guys go there knowing this and knowing playing time won't just be handed to them. It definitely works for the most part because you see the results. On the other hand we have been selling early playing time for a while instead of focusing on selling the idea of competing and getting better. I do think with Muschamp here now we can change that philosophy.
Posted on 10/7/15 at 3:17 pm to AU24
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Injuries dont = bust.
Maybe not, but he's equally not on the field like a Jonathan Rose isn't.
Posted on 10/7/15 at 3:24 pm to Blizzard of Chizz
2012 was Chiz/Trooper last year of recruiting. It sucked.
2013 was Gus' first, but was really Chiz class. We picked up a few, but Trooper de-recruited many of them. Biggest bust is JJ and that is all on Gus.
It is why the "young excuse" works somewhat for me.
2013 was Gus' first, but was really Chiz class. We picked up a few, but Trooper de-recruited many of them. Biggest bust is JJ and that is all on Gus.
It is why the "young excuse" works somewhat for me.
Posted on 10/7/15 at 3:37 pm to allin2010
STILL.........
Posted on 10/7/15 at 3:39 pm to Fear The Thumb
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This post was edited on 10/7/15 at 3:41 pm
Posted on 10/7/15 at 4:01 pm to AU24
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Injuries dont = bust.
CPA's point is that our ability to turn 4*+ players into viable players is awful.
Doesn't matter if it injury, screw ups etc, our players have a hard time making a difference on the field
Posted on 10/7/15 at 4:02 pm to AuburnCPA
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for comparison Bama is hitting on 22/34 for 2012-2013 for a 65% average.
8/24 for Auburn - 33%
22/34 for Alabama - 64%
they are playing with 14 more experienced older 4 and 5 stars than us.
I have Bama with about an 11 of 30 success rate (See Rivals) So a success rate of slightly better than Auburns...
Not sure how you got your numbers.. Want to fill these in????? Agree or Disagree, I used RIVALS rankings.
2012 (8 of 16)
Eddie Williams - Student Muggings Dismissed
Yeldon - Good
Landon Collins - Good
Chris Black (Second Team)
Ryan Anderson (Second Team)
Amari Cooper (Good)
Denzel Devall (Good)
Travell Dixon (who)
Kenyan Drake (Great before injury)
Dalvin Tomlinson (2nd team))
Brandon Greene (2nd team)
Geno Smith (Good)
Reggie Ragland (good)
Dillon Lee (Good)
Korren Kirven (Who)
cyrus Jones (good)
Tyler Hayes - LB (WHO)
2013 3 of 14...
Dee Liner (Transfer - Big BUST)
Alvin Kamara (Transfer @ Tennesee) BUST
Darious Paige DT (Medical Transfer)
Tyren Jones RB (who)
ArDarious Stewart (GOOD)
Cooper Batemen QB (Bust)
Grant Hill OL (Gone)
Maurice Smith DB - Bust
Derrick Henry - GOOD
Raheem Falkins (who)
Tim Williams DE, Baton Rouge (who)
Altee Penny (RB) Transfer BUST
A'Shawn Robinson (Good)
Johathan Allen (Second Team)
Posted on 10/7/15 at 4:15 pm to AU24
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Injuries dont = bust.
The hell they don't. An injury bust has the same impact as a regular bust.
Posted on 10/7/15 at 4:49 pm to allin2010
Go ahead and make that 11 of 16 for Bama 2013
Jonathan Allen Chris Black and Ryan Anderson are all good and would be starting if they didn't have 5*s on the field in front of them
Jonathan Allen Chris Black and Ryan Anderson are all good and would be starting if they didn't have 5*s on the field in front of them
This post was edited on 10/7/15 at 4:50 pm
Posted on 10/7/15 at 4:56 pm to FratAU
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Chris Black
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are all good
Two catches in conference games, 25 total catches, so far in his career (JR). Give me a break. If that's the requirements for being "good" then Mitchell sure as shite shouldn't be labeled a bust.
This post was edited on 10/7/15 at 4:58 pm
Posted on 10/7/15 at 5:02 pm to joeyb147
Its hard to label someone no good because their second team on a stacked roster. That would be like saying Tre Williams is no good. Small sample size because they don't get the action.
I get your point tho
Either way we're not getting it done in player development.
I get your point tho
Either way we're not getting it done in player development.
Posted on 10/7/15 at 5:03 pm to FratAU
quote:Yeah bro, totally.
Its hard to label someone no good because their second team on a stacked roster.
They were so stacked with all that WR talent that they had to bring in a transfer from Oregon State...
Posted on 10/7/15 at 5:04 pm to AuburnCPA
Those are some bad numbers.
But we have been to the NC 2 times in that time frame.
But we have been to the NC 2 times in that time frame.
Posted on 10/7/15 at 5:53 pm to RockyMtnTigerWDE
It feels like we sold our souls for the 2 national championship games since 2010. Hopefully this season pays our debt.
Posted on 10/7/15 at 5:58 pm to CaptainBrannigan
It depends. If you're just looking back on the class and not making inferences then yes you can call him a bust.
But if you're looking at our coaches ability to recruit and develop those players then you can't really label Lawson a bust. There's not much you can do about injuries so you can't put the blame on the coaches for that one. He's clearly very good. He also injury prone but I don't see how you can expect the coaches to predict that.
But if you're looking at our coaches ability to recruit and develop those players then you can't really label Lawson a bust. There's not much you can do about injuries so you can't put the blame on the coaches for that one. He's clearly very good. He also injury prone but I don't see how you can expect the coaches to predict that.
This post was edited on 10/7/15 at 5:59 pm
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