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Just a couple of thoughts, would like the boards input
Posted on 1/2/15 at 10:37 am
Posted on 1/2/15 at 10:37 am
This being the end of year 2 running the "O" with Marshall at QB and knowing a bit about CGM's offense let me pose a couple thoughts:
1.) Our "O" does in fact have major tendencies when running plays. Is this due to the level of QB play/style that Marshall brings or does this issue belong to the "OC and CGM" in game calling?
I fully expect a different flavor to the "O" next season but can we expect the limited "O" playbook and trends to continue or will JJ's passing ability offer an expanded capacity?
2.) Similar to the first issue, red zone difficulties... We must be able to pound out 1st downs in short yardage situations to be successful, period. I feel we were limited due to injury and ability on the "O" line in addition to the lack of a true H/FB in the backfield. How are we addressing the issue moving into Spring?
3.) Penalty Yards... There is absolutely no excuse for what happened this year. Both sides of the ball play with little discipline. The PF's and "O" line issues must end for us to reach the SECCG.
Thoughts?
1.) Our "O" does in fact have major tendencies when running plays. Is this due to the level of QB play/style that Marshall brings or does this issue belong to the "OC and CGM" in game calling?
I fully expect a different flavor to the "O" next season but can we expect the limited "O" playbook and trends to continue or will JJ's passing ability offer an expanded capacity?
2.) Similar to the first issue, red zone difficulties... We must be able to pound out 1st downs in short yardage situations to be successful, period. I feel we were limited due to injury and ability on the "O" line in addition to the lack of a true H/FB in the backfield. How are we addressing the issue moving into Spring?
3.) Penalty Yards... There is absolutely no excuse for what happened this year. Both sides of the ball play with little discipline. The PF's and "O" line issues must end for us to reach the SECCG.
Thoughts?
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Posted on 1/2/15 at 10:39 am to Luke
Duke being out limits what we can do. Since OMAC left, we haven't had a real threat at the jet sweep position. Also, we are in serious need of a FB.
Posted on 1/2/15 at 10:39 am to Luke
I think some of it has to do with Marshall. I've watched Malzahn for years now, between Tulsa, AU, and Arky St., and I've never seen his offense seem this repetitive, and for lack of a better word, simple.
Posted on 1/2/15 at 10:41 am to AUCE05
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Since OMAC left, we haven't had a real threat at the jet sweep position.
Shennanigans. Grant was plenty of a threat. We just stopped running actual jet sweeps. He would come in motion, stop, lose all momentum, then the ball is snapped. There was a play against wisky that once Grant stopped next to Marshall, their linebackers started going that way before the ball was even snapped. If you want to do a jet sweep, you have to let the RB get the ball going full speed.
Posted on 1/2/15 at 10:41 am to Luke
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level of QB play/style that Marshall brings
Potentially since he isn't perfect at throwing bubble screen/dump passes. I pointed out in the other thread that the bubble screen, while hated, sets up so many other plays and when run out of HUNH completely disorients teams (as shown by Oregon). Was important in 2010
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issue belong to the "OC and CGM" in game calling?
Obviously it falls on Gus/Rhett to a degree. Question is if it isn't stubborness, why can't they get our team to execute other plays?
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We must be able to pound out 1st downs in short yardage situations to be successful, period. How are we addressing the issue moving into Spring?
Our OL next year won't be as experience but likely better "maulers" at nearly every position. Biggest question mark though is HBack which Chandler Cox hopefully comes in and plays well at. Otherwise we have worked Cam Toney and Pettway at that position
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Penalty Yards
This
Posted on 1/2/15 at 10:44 am to GoCrazyAuburn
Grant was terrible at the jet sweep. He has no cutting ability. That's why ReCardio split time with him there.
Posted on 1/2/15 at 10:47 am to AUCE05
Neither did Omac. He had absolutely no lateral agility. He either beat you to the corner or ran out of bounds. However we ran true jet sweeps with him. Grant was great with actual jet sweeps last year, yet we seem to forget that. For whatever reason, he hardly ever ran any true jet sweeps this season. Even with Ricardo we only ran a few that last couple games of the season it seems. Even last year we would run at least 5-6 per game.
This post was edited on 1/2/15 at 10:47 am
Posted on 1/2/15 at 10:51 am to GoCrazyAuburn
Offense scored over 30 points in 4 of our last 6 losses.. (yes we are 8-6 since the kick 6).
Scored 31 (FSU and Wiskie), 44 against Bama.. 38 vsTAMU 38... Win those games and we are having a different discussion...
Scored 31 (FSU and Wiskie), 44 against Bama.. 38 vsTAMU 38... Win those games and we are having a different discussion...
Posted on 1/2/15 at 10:53 am to allin2010
we all agree that the "D" must be rebuilt from the ground up... Cost us multiple wins this season
Posted on 1/2/15 at 11:01 am to Luke
1.) Our "O" does in fact have major tendencies when running plays. Is this due to the level of QB play/style that Marshall brings or does this issue belong to the "OC and CGM" in game calling? Ultimately, it is on Gus
I fully expect a different flavor to the "O" next season but can we expect the limited "O" playbook and trends to continue or will JJ's passing ability offer an expanded capacity? It will be more throw first, I think.
2.) Similar to the first issue, red zone difficulties... We must be able to pound out 1st downs in short yardage situations to be successful, period. I feel we were limited due to injury and ability on the "O" line in addition to the lack of a true H/FB in the backfield. How are we addressing the issue moving into Spring? I hope Chandler Cox is ready day 1.
3.) Penalty Yards... There is absolutely no excuse for what happened this year. Both sides of the ball play with little discipline. The PF's and "O" line issues must end for us to reach the SECCG. Penalties are certainly the head coaches fault
Thoughts?
I fully expect a different flavor to the "O" next season but can we expect the limited "O" playbook and trends to continue or will JJ's passing ability offer an expanded capacity? It will be more throw first, I think.
2.) Similar to the first issue, red zone difficulties... We must be able to pound out 1st downs in short yardage situations to be successful, period. I feel we were limited due to injury and ability on the "O" line in addition to the lack of a true H/FB in the backfield. How are we addressing the issue moving into Spring? I hope Chandler Cox is ready day 1.
3.) Penalty Yards... There is absolutely no excuse for what happened this year. Both sides of the ball play with little discipline. The PF's and "O" line issues must end for us to reach the SECCG. Penalties are certainly the head coaches fault
Thoughts?
Posted on 1/2/15 at 11:03 am to Luke
My man! 
Last year, we had over 7,000 yards of total offense and averaged scoring 39 points per game. That's with an extra game.
This year, we had over 6,300 yards of total offense and averaged scoring 35 points per game.
Offense isn't the issue and is no where on my radar of concerns for Auburn. Defense. Defense. Defense.
Last year, we had over 7,000 yards of total offense and averaged scoring 39 points per game. That's with an extra game.
This year, we had over 6,300 yards of total offense and averaged scoring 35 points per game.
Offense isn't the issue and is no where on my radar of concerns for Auburn. Defense. Defense. Defense.
Posted on 1/2/15 at 11:06 am to Luke
quote:Why do you quote O?
Thoughts?
Posted on 1/2/15 at 11:26 am to AUCE05
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hat's why ReCardio split time with him there.
I think it has more to do with defenses expecting an outside run with Grant, but not expecting it from a WR.
Posted on 1/2/15 at 11:40 am to Luke
I think this tendency issue is getting overblown. I still say our OL was not as good this year. Can Malzahn do some things differently? Sure but I'm not concerned overall.
Sometimes we actually play teams that play solid defense.
Discipline on the field does need to be addressed.
Defense was our biggest area of concern. Pass rush and front 7 needs biggest improvement . Our DB's overall played decent.
Sometimes we actually play teams that play solid defense.
Discipline on the field does need to be addressed.
Defense was our biggest area of concern. Pass rush and front 7 needs biggest improvement . Our DB's overall played decent.
Posted on 1/2/15 at 11:41 am to Luke
Defense and OL play need to improve for us to make it to the SECCG, IMO.
Gus was predictable with Cam. Gus was predictable last year. With Cam, well Cam got it done. Last season our OL got it done.
Gus was predictable with Cam. Gus was predictable last year. With Cam, well Cam got it done. Last season our OL got it done.
Posted on 1/2/15 at 11:46 am to GenesChin
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Biggest question mark though is HBack which Chandler Cox hopefully comes in and plays well at. Otherwise we have worked Cam Toney and Pettway at that position
This...I got so tired this year of seeing 11 whiff on a block or get pushed back into the back
Posted on 1/2/15 at 12:00 pm to AUCE05
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Grant was terrible at the jet sweep
lol, lots of terrible running backs out there averaging about 8 ypc in the SEC.
Of all the head scratching things we did this year phasing Grant out of the offense may be the most puzzling.
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He has no cutting ability. That's why ReCardio split time with him there.
You think Ricardo has cutting ability? What team did you watch the last two years?
Posted on 1/2/15 at 1:16 pm to AUCE05
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Since OMAC left, we haven't had a real threat at the jet sweep position
Grant is absolutely a threat. The issue is with predictability IMO. Jet sweeps are easy to prepare for if you see them coming and if there is minimal downfield passing threat.
Posted on 1/2/15 at 1:30 pm to polydorr
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Grant is absolutely a threat. The issue is with predictability IMO. Jet sweeps are easy to prepare for if you see them coming and if there is minimal downfield passing threat.
Ricardo has been solid on the jet sweep too and adds the WR threat which is a major reason Grant doesn't see field.
I would love to see the jet sweet pass to the WR. Zone block at the line and if the WR doesn't block let him slip behind the defender. Ricardo, Truitt and others played QB in HS
This post was edited on 1/2/15 at 1:31 pm
Posted on 1/2/15 at 11:35 pm to GenesChin
All offenses have tendencies. I can usually call the play 30% of the time after only watching a few games. Of course, I am somewhat of a football genius - but I digress....
It's easy to question play calling and the OT play calls were horrible yesterday. However, for the most part, it is rare that Gus gets in a funk calling plays. If we had a half way decent defense - we will not lose many games. Quit bitching about the offense - its not the problem.
It's easy to question play calling and the OT play calls were horrible yesterday. However, for the most part, it is rare that Gus gets in a funk calling plays. If we had a half way decent defense - we will not lose many games. Quit bitching about the offense - its not the problem.
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