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re: JJ back in the Mix at QB
Posted on 10/5/15 at 10:00 pm to golfntiger32
Posted on 10/5/15 at 10:00 pm to golfntiger32
Both of our qbs aren't that good. Let the butthurt flow, but neither are good in Gus's offense. Sorry, we need to be scouting the juco scene for a new qb next year.
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Posted on 10/5/15 at 10:00 pm to KelticMonday
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I thought he did a great job of adapting in 2009.
I mean, yes the offense did set records, but that season was nothing spectacular. Look at the games against LSU, and UGA. We even lost to UK that season at home only scoring 14 pts...
Posted on 10/5/15 at 10:02 pm to KelticMonday
Up until the later half of last year and this year, Gus has been pretty successful. I think he has found himself in a place he has never been before and I'm not sure he is quite sure how to break out of the rut. The Gus of a few years ago would not be this indecisive in regards to his qb's.
Posted on 10/5/15 at 10:04 pm to AUNashville
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The moment the offensive talent gets more balanced out and creativity becomes necessary, Gus has been mediocre and downright awful against good teams.
As much as I'd like to agree, I think he has shown he can compete against superior talent. See 2009 and the Iron Bowl from that year in particular. Don't know where that ability went though.
Posted on 10/5/15 at 10:06 pm to AUatWashandLee
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Don't know where that ability went though.
He's coaching scared. Like things can get much worse than they already are.
Posted on 10/5/15 at 10:11 pm to KelticMonday
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You can't be serious about naming Muschamp HC immediately after he fell on his face at UF. That would genuinely be insane. I would have to stop following football for a bit if he were named HC. Couldn't really do much worse.
I should have clarified that I was not agreeing Muschamp should be promoted. I was simply pointing out that a bad, possibly terrible, defense is not totally surprising. It's not fun or what we expected, but it is fairly normal.
Posted on 10/5/15 at 10:11 pm to Smoke7024
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He's coaching scared. Like things can get much worse than they already are.
This is what happens when you lose confidence in everything you've known and practiced... Then the fear of losing your job comes upon you and stupid decisions begin to be made. JJ and Gus are sitting in the same boat together.
Posted on 10/5/15 at 11:35 pm to AU4real35
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JJ and Gus are sitting in the same boat together.
I think that is the underlying theme here. Gus knows this year is as good as gone and is hoping and praying that with enough game experience that JJ will turn the corner and by next year will be playing like we all hoped at the beginning of the season. He has put all of his eggs in the basket case that is JJ's head, so might as well keep em there.
Posted on 10/6/15 at 12:05 am to golfntiger32
If he starts JJ and he sucks it up we are going to be screwed at QB. We will have 2 QBs with no confidence, that knows the coach has no faith in them and worried about every little thing when they get to play. That's not going to help anything.
If Gus is going to do this crap all year he might as well let Jason Smith run the read option with Barber and Johnson all year.
If Gus is going to do this crap all year he might as well let Jason Smith run the read option with Barber and Johnson all year.
This post was edited on 10/6/15 at 12:07 am
Posted on 10/6/15 at 12:53 am to golfntiger32
Meh. I kind of get it. Sean White has looked ok to serviceable, and JJ has played like a total headcase but it could be argued he has a significantly higher ceiling. No one can argue JJ has the physical tools. Both have years of eligibility left.
It's frustrating, and it's not ideal. But the reality is - even with White as QB - we probably won't win an SEC game for the remainder of the season. If I look past my emotions on it, I can see a rationale of opening it back up to unlock what little competitive advantage we can. I'll let the ones getting paid millions make the decision.
It's frustrating, and it's not ideal. But the reality is - even with White as QB - we probably won't win an SEC game for the remainder of the season. If I look past my emotions on it, I can see a rationale of opening it back up to unlock what little competitive advantage we can. I'll let the ones getting paid millions make the decision.
This post was edited on 10/6/15 at 12:58 am
Posted on 10/6/15 at 1:07 am to Blizzard of Chizz
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2010 and 2014 are the outliers. Take away those years and we are massively underachieving and very pedestrian.
Well, fricking duh. If you remove any coach's top 40% of seasons they were coaching for, the resultant team looks 'massively underachieving and very pedestrian'.
"Except for the two times we got to the national championship game in the last four years, what has Gus done for us?"
Posted on 10/6/15 at 1:13 am to golfntiger32
Let em roll coach
Posted on 10/6/15 at 7:29 am to LandofDixie
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Well, fricking duh. If you remove any coach's top 40% of seasons they were coaching for, the resultant team looks 'massively underachieving and very pedestrian'.
I don't think you know what an outlier is. And if you remove the top two years from Saban, Miles, Meyer, and a lot of other successful coaches, you still won't find those guys going 8-5 on a consistent basis.
Posted on 10/6/15 at 7:53 am to Blizzard of Chizz
quote:Well, two years out of six years is a pretty significant subtraction compared to Saban who has been a head coach for 20 years in college.
I don't think you know what an outlier is. And if you remove the top two years from Saban, Miles, Meyer, and a lot of other successful coaches, you still won't find those guys going 8-5 on a consistent basis.
Take 1/3 of Saban's best years out would be about seven years. Take out six years from his Alabama stint and one from LSU and he's won double digit games four times in 13 years (I'll assume they win 10+ games this year).
Guess the number of wins he averages in those twelve full seasons when you take away 1/3 of his best seasons?
7.9
Les Miles. HC for 14 full seasons. Nine seasons would be 2/3rds. Average number of wins when you exclude a third of his best seasons?
8.11
This post was edited on 10/6/15 at 7:57 am
Posted on 10/6/15 at 7:58 am to AUNashville
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AUNashville
Here we go...
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He got a lucky season in 2013 with an already developed QB
You mean Nick Marshall, who had almost as many picks as touchdowns in Juco?
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few LUCKY bre
1 lucky break, and it was poor coaching/ thinking we had already won the game that caused the lucky break to become necessary.
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horse collar vs. TAM
Have you not read the rules either? It is in plain ducking English.
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immaculate deflection
Already went over this.
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kick 6
You mean good coaching right?...
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Blizzard of Chizz
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I don't think you know what an outlier is. And if you remove the top two years from Saban, Miles, Meyer, and a lot of other successful coaches, you still won't find those guys going 8-5 on a consistent basis.
If you want to talk about outliers, in Gus' 4 years(counting 2015) as a head coach he has 2 10 win seasons and none less than 8.
I'm not saying that we are a good team, but some of you live in a fantasy world.
Posted on 10/6/15 at 8:00 am to golfntiger32
AARGH
Posted on 10/6/15 at 8:00 am to golfntiger32
Well I never thought this season would turn into such a disaster.
If we make a bowl game I'll be actually pretty surprised.
If we make a bowl game I'll be actually pretty surprised.
Posted on 10/6/15 at 9:02 am to Ross
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Well I never thought this season would turn into such a disaster. If we make a bowl game I'll be actually pretty surprised.
I don't think anyone saw this coming. I'm just amazed how quickly it fell to this point. I don't want to hear any excuses though from the coaches. They get paid extremely well and they know this is unacceptable.
Posted on 10/6/15 at 9:16 am to JamalSanders
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AUNashville
Here we go...
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He got a lucky season in 2013 with an already developed QB
You mean Nick Marshall, who had almost as many picks as touchdowns in Juco?
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few LUCKY bre
1 lucky break, and it was poor coaching/ thinking we had already won the game that caused the lucky break to become necessary.
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horse collar vs. TAM
Have you not read the rules either? It is in plain ducking English.
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immaculate deflection
Already went over this.
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kick 6
You mean good coaching right?...
Do you have anymore sunshine you want to blow up our arse?
You can probably figure out a way to irrationally defend Chizik after the 2012 season too.
Posted on 10/6/15 at 9:20 am to golfntiger32
None of this is pretty, but Gus is going to have to play the best available player. Obviously both QBs have problems, so this is a mess. Until one of those guys steps up, I dont see what else Malzahn can do. Georgia and Bama have similar problems, but have better playmakers in the running game that help off set the problems.
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