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Posted by Irons Puppet
Birmingham
Member since Jun 2009
25901 posts
Posted on 5/29/17 at 5:58 pm to
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Anyone remember that cat Irontiger on ITAT? Him and his conspiracy shite are the main reason I peaced out back in 2012 for this fine establishment.




I know who you are talking about, he did make some shitty posters leave that site. I was wonder where they ended up, I thought most went to AUC.
Posted by LanierSpots
Sarasota, Florida
Member since Sep 2010
61557 posts
Posted on 5/29/17 at 7:05 pm to
quote:

What does the man do now that he isn't creeping around on the sideline with Cam and Gene? I know he pissed off a bunch of people when he was in ticket sales, including Muschamp.




Thats total bullshite. Tell me what he has done, or not done, that makes you want him fired

Its the same shite as always. People on this site talking shite about people when they have not idea what the frick they are talking about


I dont even know what Tim does. But I have not seen anything posted here that makes me want him fired. People just talking shite and repeating shite that has been said'

Nothing real


Same for JJ. I asked a year ago to one of our biggest "Fire JJ" guys. What mistakes did he make that makes you want him fired


I got crickets everytime


Posted by LanierSpots
Sarasota, Florida
Member since Sep 2010
61557 posts
Posted on 5/29/17 at 7:20 pm to
quote:

weagle99


Id like to apologize early. Its been a 10 shot tequila holiday.


Sorry for anything I said that was out of order.

Posted by Irons Puppet
Birmingham
Member since Jun 2009
25901 posts
Posted on 5/29/17 at 7:39 pm to
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Same for JJ. I asked a year ago to one of our biggest "Fire JJ" guys. What mistakes did he make that makes you want him fired


I think the biggest problem people have with JJ is the constant cycling of the Auburn Athletic Program. We hire coaches which are perceived to be the up and coming coach. The get them at a bargain rate and after some early success they give them a raise to bring them up to Top 10 status. When things do not work out, they are fired with a big buyout. Some feel that AU doesn't have to go to the bargain shelf when hiring a coach. Pearl was a great hire and it looks like Thompson will be.

From a facility standpoint, he is very good at recognizing our deficiencies. He has targeted improvements, but does piecemeal improvements (ie Scoreboard) without addressing the real problems. With the SECN money in place, it is hard for him to fail. But is Auburn reaching their true potential under his leadership ?
Posted by AUCE05
Member since Dec 2009
42557 posts
Posted on 5/29/17 at 7:50 pm to
You are working under the assumption AU had a stellar athletic department. Basketball and baseball are lower third in the league, and there are three sure head coaches in all of football. Up and coming is the only option we have. For all the shite we give Gus, only Saban has won more out of SEC coaches. We are lucky to have Bruce. We will never have a consistent baseball program. Softball is the best in program history. Not sure anyone could have done a better job, honestly.
Posted by beatbammer
Member since Sep 2010
38003 posts
Posted on 5/29/17 at 8:07 pm to
quote:

We hire coaches which are perceived to be the up and coming coach.


Please do list below all the "established" coaches that have been beating Auburn's door down to work here over the years.

Hell, the one "established" coach we DID hire (Cliff Ellis) fricked us so bad with the NCAA that we're still afraid to take a piss in the AD Building without the NCAA's OK.
Posted by Irons Puppet
Birmingham
Member since Jun 2009
25901 posts
Posted on 5/29/17 at 8:22 pm to
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Please do list below all the "established" coaches that have been beating Auburn's door down to work here over the years.

Hell, the one "established" coach we DID hire (Cliff Ellis) fricked us so bad with the NCAA that we're still afraid to take a piss in the AD Building without the NCAA's OK.



Which proves my point. The reason AU did not go after the "established" coaches and offer them upper level money, was because of the Bargain Mentality of the Administration and PTB. Name the Coaches that have left AU for a better job. It is hard for me to name a coach that has left AU without being fired (which is too common).
Posted by weagle99
Member since Nov 2011
35893 posts
Posted on 5/29/17 at 8:33 pm to
No problem man. It's been a fun weekend
Posted by tilco
Spanish Fort, AL
Member since Nov 2013
13470 posts
Posted on 5/29/17 at 8:55 pm to
quote:



I know who you are talking about, he did make some shitty posters leave that site. I was wonder where they ended up, I thought most went to AUC.




Sorry ur nick Saban conspiracies never came true irontiger
Posted by Irons Puppet
Birmingham
Member since Jun 2009
25901 posts
Posted on 5/29/17 at 9:19 pm to
Sorry to disappoint you , but Im not Iron Tiger , but my guess is you were one of those shitty posters.
Posted by MrAUTigers
Florida
Member since Sep 2013
28280 posts
Posted on 5/29/17 at 11:30 pm to
quote:

Who is student22 on that site?


I don't know if he is still there, but at one time he worked in the AD. And yes........he knows his stuff.
Posted by RockyMtnTigerWDE
War Damn Eagle Dad!
Member since Oct 2010
105377 posts
Posted on 5/29/17 at 11:48 pm to
quote:

I can't tell you who it is -- and I can't believe I'm doing this .


You may have said too much already.
Posted by LanierSpots
Sarasota, Florida
Member since Sep 2010
61557 posts
Posted on 5/30/17 at 1:03 am to
quote:

I think the biggest problem people have with JJ is the constant cycling of the Auburn Athletic Program. We hire coaches which are perceived to be the up and coming coach. The get them at a bargain rate and after some early success they give them a raise to bring them up to Top 10 status. When things do not work out, they are fired with a big buyout. Some feel that AU doesn't have to go to the bargain shelf when hiring a coach. Pearl was a great hire and it looks like Thompson will be.


This is pretty much every program. Look at the buyouts for all the coaches. We are no different than any other program

My opinion? JJ has done a great job... He has brought in very good coaches and at least when mistakes have been made, we are not stuck with them for ever. We move on. Money is really nothing to these changes. Why would a poster on a site or a sports fan be so concerned with how much buyout a coach is? Our ticket prices along with the tuition for people is based on market rate. Not how much coaches cost. Its not affected

So far, nobody has give a good reason why Jay Jacobs has done a bad job for Auburn. But there are tons of examples of why he has done a good job. And I have asked numerous posters that question and always gotten the same answer.


Posted by Irons Puppet
Birmingham
Member since Jun 2009
25901 posts
Posted on 5/30/17 at 4:45 am to
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So far, nobody has give a good reason why Jay Jacobs has done a bad job for Auburn. But there are tons of examples of why he has done a good job. And I have asked numerous posters that question and always gotten the same answer.



Doing a Good Job is not hard to do when you have the resources of the SEC. JJ has been good at sticking his fingers in the holes of the Dam (Some of which he has created), but he doesn't seem to have the vision to take it to the next level. I guess that has been the mentality of many AU fans for so long, they are just happy to have a view of the water, instead of a beachfront property.
Posted by JRoweMDN
Florida
Member since Jan 2016
703 posts
Posted on 5/30/17 at 9:18 am to
No idea who Student22 is but he does seem to have a good in.

As for JJ, I think 2017-18 will tell the tale on all the programs and I believe that we are a couple of good recruits away from being at the top of the SEC in both baseball and basketball. We will not be a blue blood in either sport but we will be able to compete in the SEC and get into the tourney most every year. Football is either going to turn a corner this year or we will make a giant grab at a major coach next year. I believe athletics are poised to turn the corner and be something to be even more proud about. Get over the bama complex and worry about the SEC and the NCAA in total. I don't live in AL so I don't have to deal with all the bandwagon bs, so I can be a little more objective and I dont' quite think it is time to burn down the athletic complexes and ride JJ around with tar and feathers.
Posted by Cocotheape
Member since Aug 2015
3782 posts
Posted on 5/30/17 at 1:24 pm to
Lives in Atlanta, works in real estate something or the other, all of this he has claimed himself.

I imagine he is someone with family ties to influential boosters/someone in the AD.
Posted by marshallcotiger
Member since Dec 2009
7959 posts
Posted on 5/30/17 at 1:31 pm to
I'm not a JJ hater and really don't have an opinion of him either way but I see this argument pop up all the time on the ITAT board and the 2 strongest arguments I see against him are when is the last time someone in our AD was hired away and if he didn't have ties to Auburn would we or anybody else have hired him as AD? I think both of those are legit questions that I've never seen answered.
Posted by GenesChin
The Promise Land
Member since Feb 2012
37706 posts
Posted on 5/30/17 at 3:28 pm to
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when is the last time someone in our AD was hired away


It happens all the time. Ignoring that UConn's new AD is David Benedict, we just don't hear about lower level movements that go on.

Here are some quick ones I know / found pretty quickly for pretty high profile jobs. This doesn't include the large number of lower level people getting promoted to roles like director at other schools

Stacy Danley - SC State Athletic Director, worked for over a decade in AU AD
Mark Richard - Montevallo AD, hired directly form AU a couple years back
Jared Benko - Miss St Senior Assoc AD for Finance hired away from AU in 2016
Taylor Brayon - Baylor Assoc AD for Athletic Comm hired away from AU in 2017
Bridget Cossett - Asst AD for Tickets for Arkansas hired away from AU 2016
Tyler Trout - Senior Designer Tampa Bay Bucs hired away from AU 2015? (Former Creative Director at AU, reason why graphics have declined)
Jessica Chrabaszcz - Associate AD at Yale University, hired away from AU 2014



Don't forget that working at AU is a huge deal/very prestigious in the collegiate athletics community. Most people will only leave for a big promotion, which are pretty rare to find. A director I know said he would even hesitate to accept an AD role at a D2/FCS type school, because the resources are so limited

quote:

if he didn't have ties to Auburn would we or anybody else have hired him as AD?


You could argue his fundraising merits etc, but you are probably right that his AU connections are the source to his rise in the AD.

Doesn't really matter though, how he became AD has no effect on his performance as AD

This post was edited on 5/30/17 at 3:33 pm
Posted by Irons Puppet
Birmingham
Member since Jun 2009
25901 posts
Posted on 5/30/17 at 6:24 pm to
Again, JJ is good at plugging holes in the dam, some he created. JHS is evidence of his vision , but he makes the right people happy.
Posted by Pettifogger
Capitol Hill Autonomous Zone
Member since Feb 2012
79115 posts
Posted on 5/31/17 at 1:49 pm to
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Anyone remember that cat Irontiger on ITAT? Him and his conspiracy shite are the main reason I peaced out back in 2012 for this fine establishment.



It's creepy over there sometimes. There are like 10 negabarners and 1000 militant posibarners, with all the latter being totally convinced that the negative vibes on the board are at fault for Auburn not being better than Bama.

It's like on our poliboard, where 1000 conservatives post shite like "what's with the leftist takeover of this board," when there are like 5 total liberals over there.
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