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re: How far can a top 25 defense get us ?

Posted on 7/21/16 at 11:28 am to
Posted by TigerPaw1
Chattanooga, TN
Member since Apr 2011
16979 posts
Posted on 7/21/16 at 11:28 am to
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what do you think about Auburn being ranked 31? Are we that far off from being a top 25 defense?


Outside of the LSU game & OT vs Arkansas defense was solid. They weren't elite but they were good enough for us to win more games than we did. I mean even against Alabama, that score looks worse because Henry scored late or they would have held that offense to under 25 pts. Personally I think we have the pieces for a top 25 defense but until guys like Adams, Lawson, Matthews & Lawrence play a full season of high level football like they have flashed at times it's won't happen

At end of day the AU will go as far as offense takes it under Gus. Defense has to have some sort of a pulse (see 2014) but if they are top 40 good & Gus's offense is running at level it usually is we will win plenty of games.

Long story short, we have the talent to do it but until I see it play at that level consistently I won't believe it
This post was edited on 7/21/16 at 11:31 am
Posted by AUtigR24
Happy Hour
Member since Apr 2011
19755 posts
Posted on 7/21/16 at 12:32 pm to
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far can a top 25 defense get us ?If Champ could not get us to a top 25 defense, what makes people think Steele can


Boom was working with a shite DL early in the year and 1 good LB all year. Your defense will go as your DL goes. If you DL is shite you need stud LBs to clean up. If both are shite you get Auburns defense for the past 5 years.

I'm not saying Kevin Steele is our savior but he'll have the best Dline that's been at Auburn since 2010. We'll also have TJ Neal and Tre Williams, not Kris Frost


Posted by jvilletiger25
jacksonville, fl
Member since Jan 2014
16989 posts
Posted on 7/21/16 at 12:37 pm to
2008 defense was pretty dang solid. We all know how that season turned out. Malzahn should have got his head out of his arse this past offseason and fired Lashlee. Well, that didn't happen. So I'm not too confident that the QB woes will be fixed. It'll be sad watching the defense give it their all, only to have them be worn out by the end of the game from being on the field the entire time.
Posted by WareagleKK
Milton, GA (ur welcome for Lawson)
Member since May 2012
2749 posts
Posted on 7/21/16 at 12:41 pm to
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Giving up 456 passing yards total is not equivalent to giving up 70 points. That was a really stupid analogy. I don't care how good West Virginia's offense was, giving up 70 is extremely bad. It's not like their great athletes invented the wheel and was a new brand of athlete that no one has ever seen before. I can see why you're regarded as a huge sunshine pumper


Giving up 456 yards to Nick Marshall is absolutely the equivalent of a dumpster fire day on defense. Nick Marshall is a defensive back in the NFL.
Posted by jangalang
Member since Dec 2014
36243 posts
Posted on 7/21/16 at 12:44 pm to
I can think of at least three games last year where Bama relied on defense to keep them in the game until the offense finally figured out the right foot from the left. If we can rely on our defense and give our offense some time to work the kinks out, we may easily win 10 games.
Posted by WareagleKK
Milton, GA (ur welcome for Lawson)
Member since May 2012
2749 posts
Posted on 7/21/16 at 12:51 pm to
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I can think of at least three games last year where Bama relied on defense to keep them in the game until the offense finally figured out the right foot from the left. If we can rely on our defense and give our offense some time to work the kinks out, we may easily win 10 games.


Would be nice to have a defense that can pick up slack when the Offense is sputtering.
Posted by Rig
BHM
Member since Aug 2011
41856 posts
Posted on 7/21/16 at 12:53 pm to
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How in the helll did you infer that I was judging KS off of one game?


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Giving up 456 passing yards total is not equivalent to giving up 70 points. That was a really stupid analogy. I don't care how good West Virginia's offense was, giving up 70 is extremely bad. It's not like their great athletes invented the wheel and was a new brand of athlete that no one has ever seen before.


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don't undersell the conference-level embarrassment that occurred during the Orange bowl and compare it to putting up 456 passing yards on Bama. If you watched the WVU-Clemson game, you would've saw that WVU could have easily score another two touchdowns.



Yeah you seem pretty obsessed with it.
Posted by jangalang
Member since Dec 2014
36243 posts
Posted on 7/21/16 at 1:34 pm to
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Yeah you seem pretty obsessed with it.

More conjecture. You could've quoted a ten page paper of mine on that game and that still wouldn't prove that I judge KS's career off of one game.
Posted by HailToTheChiz
Back in Auburn
Member since Aug 2010
48888 posts
Posted on 7/21/16 at 2:32 pm to
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How far can a top 25 defense get us ?



Are we assuming we have a QB that can throw the ball farther than 10 yards?
Posted by ChexMix
Taste the Deliciousness
Member since Apr 2014
24762 posts
Posted on 7/21/16 at 2:43 pm to
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farther than 10 yards
Youre in luck. We have an entire football team that meets this requirement
Posted by bird35
Georgia
Member since Sep 2012
12138 posts
Posted on 7/21/16 at 3:12 pm to
My question is "How far are we from a top 25 defense ".
Posted by ChexMix
Taste the Deliciousness
Member since Apr 2014
24762 posts
Posted on 7/21/16 at 3:32 pm to
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My question is "How far are we from a top 25 defense ".
if Carl Lawson can stay healthy for the entire season, were there.
Posted by Rig
BHM
Member since Aug 2011
41856 posts
Posted on 7/21/16 at 3:44 pm to
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More conjecture.


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You could've quoted a ten page paper of mine on that game and that still wouldn't prove that I judge KS's career off of one game.

Whatever
Posted by jangalang
Member since Dec 2014
36243 posts
Posted on 7/21/16 at 3:59 pm to
Wow you're such a god damn idiot, with all due respect, mod.
Posted by JRoweMDN
Florida
Member since Jan 2016
703 posts
Posted on 7/21/16 at 4:14 pm to
"A top 25 defense gets us half way there. The offense will need to do the other half."

Captain Obvious

Posted by Rig
BHM
Member since Aug 2011
41856 posts
Posted on 7/21/16 at 4:44 pm to
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