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Posted on 5/14/17 at 6:19 pm to
Posted by beatbammer
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Posted on 5/14/17 at 6:19 pm to
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But its cool. We are doing better right?


Doing better is always preferable to not doing better.

And being the type to be encouraged by that is always better than being one of the "everything always sucks now listen to me whine about it" guys.
This post was edited on 5/14/17 at 6:20 pm
Posted by TigerPaw1
Chattanooga, TN
Member since Apr 2011
16979 posts
Posted on 5/14/17 at 6:20 pm to
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beatbammer

What is your obsession with millennials?
Posted by beatbammer
Member since Sep 2010
38000 posts
Posted on 5/14/17 at 6:21 pm to
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What is your obsession with millennials?


My son is one.

He hates them, so I picked it up from him.
Posted by LanierSpots
Sarasota, Florida
Member since Sep 2010
61505 posts
Posted on 5/14/17 at 7:08 pm to
Whatever dude. I think you just like to start shite with people in every thread. Anyone who has a different opinion.

Like it or not, auburn athletics has had a few high points over the last 10 years but for the most part, it has all been a complete failure.

It has sucked for the most part.
Posted by beatbammer
Member since Sep 2010
38000 posts
Posted on 5/14/17 at 9:09 pm to
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I think you just like to start shite with people


People who are bitchy little whiners about every little thing are much more proficient at the art of shite-starting. When you find yourself regularly and consistently on the same side as that idiot Luke, you would think you'd have a small enough modicum of self-awareness to take a step back and think.

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Like it or not, auburn athletics has had a few high points over the last 10 years but for the most part, it has all been a complete failure.

It has sucked for the most part.


Yeah, I'd trade in those 2 SEC Championships, BCS Championship, and other BCS Championship runner-up in a NY minute if we'd only have been able to win a game or two in baseball against Bama and LSU over the last week and a half.

That would have been SO much better. At least the 2017 Auburn baseball team wouldn't have "sucked" then.
This post was edited on 5/14/17 at 9:11 pm
Posted by Luke
1113 Chartres Street, NOLA
Member since Nov 2004
13396 posts
Posted on 5/15/17 at 6:46 am to
Sorry for holding AU athletics to a standard. For the return on investment we have an absolute abysmal record. Perhaps we should just cut budgets on all nonperforming programs to an appropriate level
This post was edited on 5/15/17 at 9:49 am
Posted by AUjim
America
Member since Dec 2012
3660 posts
Posted on 5/15/17 at 10:39 am to
Eh-I certainly appreciate your outlook, but...

I don't wear my "BCS National Championship Runner Up" shirt all that often.

9, 5, 8, 14, 8, 3, 12, 8, 7, 8. Football win totals for 10 years. I love those SEC championships and that National title for sure. But.....when you're honest with yourself, don't they feel a little flukey and out of place?

I am hopeful that we're on an upswing though...baseball has disappointed down the stretch, but has shown signs of life for the first time in a while. This great year by many standards has actually been a bad year for softball. Basketball and football always seem to be "maybe next year."

Posted by JRoweMDN
Florida
Member since Jan 2016
703 posts
Posted on 5/15/17 at 10:47 am to
I see a general improving trend in AU athletics.

Baseball has had a late collapse, but overall a good season that is not over yet. I believe Butch is going to get them refocused. If he can get them back on track and make a solid post season run, I will be ecstatic about the future of the program. I think it is too early to call them dead.

Softball had 2 fantastic years and this year while not as good still holds promise for another solid run. There have been some issues on and off the field, but nothing that I would call catastrophic. This is a solid program that will be in the running going forward.

Basketball puzzles me. That team should have been better last year, but never came together. This will be the telling year for Pearl, but you have to feel like we reached out and made the best hire available.

If football does well this year. And by well I mean 9-10 wins including 2/3 against UGA, LSU, UA and no game pissed away by stupid coaching. I think the team has talent and there is the possibility Gus has pulled his head out of his arse and realized he needed to change. Still remains to be seen, but I am feeling pretty posi right now.
Posted by beatbammer
Member since Sep 2010
38000 posts
Posted on 5/15/17 at 11:19 am to
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9, 5, 8, 14, 8, 3, 12, 8, 7, 8. Football win totals for 10 years. I love those SEC championships and that National title for sure. But.....when you're honest with yourself, don't they feel a little flukey and out of place?


Have you looked at the history of Auburn football? We had consecutive 10 win seasons *once* in our history.

We have 8 SEC Championships. Of those 8, 6 of them are unshared. Two of those unshared Championships have been won in the last 10 years.

I appreciate your comments, but the "what have you done for me lately" view held by many is short-sighted by its very nature. Yes, 2008 and 2012 totally sucked but, from a historical point of view, the last 10 years in Auburn football has been extremely good.

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I am hopeful that we're on an upswing though...baseball has disappointed down the stretch, but has shown signs of life for the first time in a while.


Butch Thompson is a very good coach. The program is in good hands.

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This great year by many standards has actually been a bad year for softball.


And seemingly by self-inflicted wounds that didn't have anything to do with the actions of Auburn athletic administrators, but a stupid idiot having a mid-life crisis.

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Basketball and football always seem to be "maybe next year."


I've been harder on Pearl than anybody. Going into his 4th year, I'm still told "can't judge him yet, you gotta wait until he gets his players". OK. I guess I'm still waiting. I love Pearl's energy and his ability to bring talent to Auburn, I guess I'm just still wondering if he's going to be able to put that all together to make a successful program. But, in his defense, Auburn basketball might just rank as the most difficult program to succeed at in the country.

And though football ended disappointingly last year, how can you (in the generic sense, not you in particular) not be encouraged by (1) the defense's upswing last year, (2) the move to Chip Lindsey on offense, (3) the recruiting and signing of Stidham, (4) Kam Pettway back healthy and pounding SEC defenses. The big question I guess is the offensive line and obviously that's extremely important. But how anyone could NOT be encouraged and excited about what Auburn football can be in 2017, I can't comprehend.

Again, I appreciate your comments. Much easier to discuss and debate rational responses rather than "we suck" or "we're doomed".
This post was edited on 5/15/17 at 11:30 am
Posted by Tigerman97
Member since Jun 2014
10354 posts
Posted on 5/15/17 at 11:52 am to
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And though football ended disappointingly last year, how can you (in the generic sense, not you in particular) not be encouraged by (1) the defense's upswing last year, (2) the move to Chip Lindsey on offense, (3) the recruiting and signing of Stidham, (4) Kam Pettway back healthy and pounding SEC defenses. The big question I guess is the offensive line and obviously that's extremely important. But how anyone could NOT be encouraged and excited about what Auburn football can be in 2017, I can't comprehend.


This is really well stated. The problem for most SEC fans and Auburn fans is the OL issue might be the difference between another 8-5 season verses 12-2, etc....The margins are paper thin. Pearl's team this year is another example. Three years ago this year's team would have certainly made the NIT and likely would have made the NCAA tournament, but in 2016-2017 the rest of the SEC also took a step forward. Baseball seems to me to be a year away, even when we were successful earlier this year it was razor thin and the pitching has worn down as the season progressed.
This post was edited on 5/15/17 at 11:54 am
Posted by beatbammer
Member since Sep 2010
38000 posts
Posted on 5/15/17 at 12:45 pm to
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Baseball seems to me to be a year away, even when we were successful earlier this year it was razor thin and the pitching has worn down as the season progressed.


I think the injuries/soreness (whatever it was, I'm always on the side of coaches that rest players that need it instead of blowing out their arms) for Thompson and Mize had more of an effect on them and the team than people think.

Prior to both of these guys having to sit out, they were pitching lights out and the team was riding on the back of those hosses. Neither of them has been near as good since they've been back then they were before. They either lost their "rhythm" or they're still sore or slightly injured and that is effecting them. And that has effected the team as a whole (especially since we have very little pitching depth behind those two).

It happens. It ain't fun. But the vagaries of baseball and injuries happen.
This post was edited on 5/15/17 at 12:47 pm
Posted by GenesChin
The Promise Land
Member since Feb 2012
37704 posts
Posted on 5/15/17 at 1:16 pm to
Are we allowed to be frustrated that we hit a road block while at the same time realize we clearly are heading in the right direction for most sports?

I am very disappointed with how basketball, football and baseball ended their years. It is embarrassing and we need to do much better

I also have no reason to believe we won't be improved in all 3 sports next year (maybe about the same for baseball).



We had a disappointing year, but at least our AD looks to be taking steps in most sports to improving

This post was edited on 5/15/17 at 1:17 pm
Posted by beatbammer
Member since Sep 2010
38000 posts
Posted on 5/15/17 at 1:24 pm to
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Are we allowed to be frustrated that we hit a road block while at the same time realize we clearly are heading in the right direction for most sports?


Of course!

But are you saying that doom-saying and childish bitching are mature responses to frustration?

I can understand an IMMEDIATE response that is off-the-wall, because that's when emotions run highest and adrenaline is still pumping. To that I plead GUILTY.

But, for god's sake, calm down and reflect afterwards. Channel your frustration. Try to understand WHY something might have happened instead of just bitching, moaning, and throwing insults at amateur athletes and mindless tropes at Auburn itself.

Doing that isn't "making excuses", its called being rationale and using your brain.
Posted by LanierSpots
Sarasota, Florida
Member since Sep 2010
61505 posts
Posted on 5/15/17 at 1:30 pm to
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Are we allowed to be frustrated that we hit a road block while at the same time realize we clearly are heading in the right direction for most sports?


No. You must be happy that we are doing "better" than before or last year.

You cant be upset that we have totally underachieved in just about every single sport we are playing in. You can not be upset that our head football coach turns into a total retard a lot of times. That our baseball team teased us with great play for a while only to totally fall apart late in the season, along with our softball team

You cant be upset that our football program other than two seasons as of late is pretty much bottom dweller in the SEC even though we have enough talent every year to compete with anyone.

Welcome to snowflake Auburn board


This post was edited on 5/15/17 at 1:31 pm
Posted by GenesChin
The Promise Land
Member since Feb 2012
37704 posts
Posted on 5/15/17 at 1:38 pm to
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You cant be upset that our football program other than two seasons as of late is pretty much bottom dweller in the SEC


I mean, that just isn't true. We should be doing better but we are nowhere near "bottom dweller" on avg

SEC Ranking by Conf Win Total

2009- t#7
2010- #1
2011- t #6
2012- t #13
2013- #1
2014- t #6
2015- t #12
2016- t #3

Posted by JRoweMDN
Florida
Member since Jan 2016
703 posts
Posted on 5/15/17 at 1:44 pm to
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You can not be upset that our head football coach turns into a total retard a lot of times.


This is the biggest disappointment for me. As I said above, this year and the coaching changes will tell if Gus is capable of getting out of his own way. I guess I have healed a little from last year, but that wound won't take much to tear open again.

I keep trying to take of my orange and blue glasses, but I can't. I have been frustrated, but I really think overall athletics are poised to make the turn. I don't care how upset anyone else gets about it, I will keep looking forward to that happening.
Posted by beatbammer
Member since Sep 2010
38000 posts
Posted on 5/15/17 at 2:18 pm to
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No. You must be happy that we are doing "better" than before or last year.

You cant be upset that we have totally underachieved in just about every single sport we are playing in. You can not be upset that our head football coach turns into a total retard a lot of times. That our baseball team teased us with great play for a while only to totally fall apart late in the season, along with our softball team

You cant be upset that our football program other than two seasons as of late is pretty much bottom dweller in the SEC even though we have enough talent every year to compete with anyone.

Welcome to snowflake Auburn board


You've flipped the definition on its head for your convenience.

The mature reaction to a dissatisfying event is to get over it, move on, and then hope for the best. Note that that kind of reaction in no way denies that the same person can't have feelings of unhappiness or dissatisfaction simultaneously. An adult can be unhappy or dissatisfied without constantly lashing out due to their frustration. One can also be unhappy/dissatisfied yet STILL discuss the things that they are unhappy/dissatisfied about in a rational manner.

Its the snowflakes, however, that have the constant need to bitch and moan when their every desire and need isn't immediately fulfilled. Much like your buddy Luke.

I thought this kind of thing was kind of apparent in real life.
Posted by LanierSpots
Sarasota, Florida
Member since Sep 2010
61505 posts
Posted on 5/15/17 at 2:45 pm to
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SEC Ranking by Conf Win Total
2009- t#7
2010- #1
2011- t #6
2012- t #13
2013- #1
2014- t #6
2015- t #12
2016- t #3


You missed where I said other than two seasons.

And I noticed you left off 2008.


We have certainly not been in the upper half. How many times have we won games against our rivals in the last 8 years? How about our bowl record as of late?

We have been living on beating bad teams. We have failed miserably against good teams or programs over the past 10 years other than two miracle seasons. The rest have been total shite compared to where we should be.

I have high hopes for this season. But over all we have pretty much sucked other than 2010,1013.

Bama has owned us
LSU has owned us (even though this is the team we have done the best against)
UGA - LOL
OU in the bowl game? - Routed like little bitches
Florida State? - Gave it to them
Wisconsin bowl game -

yea we can beat Ole Miss, Arkansas and Miss State more than they beat us but Texas AM has a lead in our series since they joined.

We have totally underachieved.... its easy to see.



Posted by Luke
1113 Chartres Street, NOLA
Member since Nov 2004
13396 posts
Posted on 5/15/17 at 5:18 pm to
Beatbammer.... it's comical that you think it's demanding to hold AU to expectations. These teams constantly fail once given a high ranking in all sports. AU is not garnering the results equivalent to the rate of investment. The fan base shoulders the burden of ever increasing costs for mediocre results. Piss on paying $115 per ticket to watch UGA/UA stomp our asses yearly in football.
This post was edited on 5/15/17 at 5:30 pm
Posted by beatbammer
Member since Sep 2010
38000 posts
Posted on 5/15/17 at 5:54 pm to
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Beatbammer.... it's comical that you think it's demanding to hold AU to expectations. These teams constantly fail once given a high ranking in all sports. AU is not garnering the results equivalent to the rate of investment. The fan base shoulders the burden of ever increasing costs for mediocre results. Piss on paying $115 per ticket to watch UGA/UA stomp our asses yearly in football.



Nothing in this emotional rant above does a thing to go about proving me wrong about you tender-feeling'ed divas with severe Veruca Salt Complex.
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