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Freedom From Religion Foundation gunning for Brother Chette
Posted on 8/19/15 at 4:21 pm
Posted on 8/19/15 at 4:21 pm
Posted on 8/19/15 at 4:39 pm to beaver
I'll refrain from saying anything other than this is sad.
Posted on 8/19/15 at 4:50 pm to beaver
That is some ATPB sh!t right there..
Reminds me of the hit piece from the NYT..
Briefs: Lowder donates to his charity, Chette lives in a $350,000 house, Wayne Hall, yada, yada, yada
Reminds me of the hit piece from the NYT..
Briefs: Lowder donates to his charity, Chette lives in a $350,000 house, Wayne Hall, yada, yada, yada
Posted on 8/19/15 at 5:55 pm to beaver
so Auburn employs a chaplain that has the ability to Baptize players that want to be Baptized and there is a problem why?
Auburn isn't forcing kids to be Baptized. Every football or athletics that I ever played, we did the Lord's prayer before we went on the field. Who gives a shite? Athletics are a privilege, not a right. If you don't like the way a program is run, leave.
Auburn isn't forcing kids to be Baptized. Every football or athletics that I ever played, we did the Lord's prayer before we went on the field. Who gives a shite? Athletics are a privilege, not a right. If you don't like the way a program is run, leave.
Posted on 8/19/15 at 6:06 pm to beaver
This bunch is part of the .01% that's offended yet thinks they should have there way. Sick of these groups think ing they own the majority because there butthurt over some issue. But yet tonight we get to watch Jenner win a courageous award smh
Posted on 8/19/15 at 6:16 pm to Warfarer
Because of this:
Auburn is a public school and, as such, retaining a clergyman on payroll is against separation of church and state. I grew up Baptist, but I understand this limitation. Bringing him in as a motivational speaker/having student lead prayer? Totally fine. Having him on payroll specifically because he is clergy? Ehhh, seems like an overstep. How would we feel of a Muslim coach brought in a muslim to lead the players in praying to Mecca? There's a reason limitations are in place.
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This public university grants him special privileges and unrestricted access because he is a Christian clergyman, FFRF charges
Auburn is a public school and, as such, retaining a clergyman on payroll is against separation of church and state. I grew up Baptist, but I understand this limitation. Bringing him in as a motivational speaker/having student lead prayer? Totally fine. Having him on payroll specifically because he is clergy? Ehhh, seems like an overstep. How would we feel of a Muslim coach brought in a muslim to lead the players in praying to Mecca? There's a reason limitations are in place.
Posted on 8/19/15 at 6:19 pm to LandofDixie
Chette is not On the payroll. He is paid by FCA.
Posted on 8/19/15 at 6:29 pm to allin2010
Auburn has this figured out. The most I see happening is Chette having his profile removed from the website and his name tag removed from whatever office he may have at the complex.
Posted on 8/19/15 at 6:38 pm to TheJones
As long as no one's looked down on or feels forced to be religious on the team for fear of not being played I don't think this is even an issue. I mean you're going to a school in the South. Religion is as common as grits here. I'm not a religious person, but I don't have a problem with anyone else being religious or the role it plays for many people. I'm accepting of anyone that isn't a complete a-hole haha. I think these non religious people who go out of their way to try and remove all religion from people's lives are just as bad as those people who try and force religion on others. Just let people believe what they want to believe and let's just enjoy life.
Posted on 8/19/15 at 6:49 pm to beaver
This is complete bs.
I'm back
I'm back
Posted on 8/19/15 at 6:55 pm to allin2010
Does he keep an office on school property? If he does, could still be considered school sanctioned.
Edit: does he get what could be reasonably considered "special privileges" by his position as a clergy? If so, I'd still consider it an overstep, unfortunately.
Edit: does he get what could be reasonably considered "special privileges" by his position as a clergy? If so, I'd still consider it an overstep, unfortunately.
This post was edited on 8/19/15 at 6:59 pm
Posted on 8/19/15 at 8:03 pm to beaver
I mean, technically, they have a point, but they have no business trying to police schools in the Deep South about this kind of thing. If Auburn is paid for by the Alabama state government, which is "by the people, for the people" of Alabama, and those people have obviously seen no problem with this, then I have much more of a problem with an outside organization coming in and trying to raise an issue with something that they should have no affiliation with.
I'd be much more understanding if there was an internal uproar about it. Which there won't be, because we live in the Bible Belt.
I'd be much more understanding if there was an internal uproar about it. Which there won't be, because we live in the Bible Belt.
This post was edited on 8/19/15 at 8:05 pm
Posted on 8/19/15 at 8:07 pm to beaver
What hole have you been camping in?
Posted on 8/19/15 at 8:21 pm to LandofDixie
quote:No different than a Christian coach doing the same thing.
How would we feel of a Muslim coach brought in a muslim to lead the players in praying to Mecca?
It's not a requirement as far as I know.
Also, WTF dude.
This post was edited on 8/19/15 at 8:22 pm
Posted on 8/19/15 at 8:49 pm to joeyb147
I know, weird visual. I mention it because a lot of people always think about this issue as "Christian versus secular ideals" when its really "religious versus secular ideals". I'm not a PC guy who gets offended at anything (I mean, come on, I post here), and I think that religion has no business on public property in a state sanctioned format. Sometimes it's kind of a gray area (like a coach leading prayer, encouraging players to attend church with him, etc), and I tend to look the other way because, really, who cares in the middle of the deep South. But the liberal carpetbaggers have a point. This is a public university that gets funded by Christians, Muslims, Rastafarians, Scientologists, and Atheists alike.
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