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re: City of Auburn evicts students in certain neighborhoods
Posted on 10/3/17 at 8:42 pm to beatbammer
Posted on 10/3/17 at 8:42 pm to beatbammer
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Cool.
Good advice for home/property buyers: Know the zoning laws/ordinances in the area for which you are buying.
You were saying they should've read the lease. I'm just making you aware that not everyone signs a lease and not everyone is renting from a leasing company.
Posted on 10/3/17 at 8:45 pm to Weagle25
The house across the cul de sac from me has 3 different students living there. The mom of one of them bought the house last year. They are good neighbors. No loud parties, yard is maintained and no issues. I think they are pharmacy students so they are mature and serious. If that changes, I will rat them out in a minute
Posted on 10/3/17 at 8:45 pm to JamalSanders
Have a friend who has a house on college near the presidents mansion. Their grad student child was allowed to live in home, but other child who was a normal student was not allowed to live in home. So not sure if different regulations for districts.
But as stated this has always been a law. In regards to the op.
But as stated this has always been a law. In regards to the op.
Posted on 10/3/17 at 8:46 pm to Weagle25
What does the city of Auburn consider living in a certain place?
Posted on 10/3/17 at 8:52 pm to JamalSanders
Posted on 10/3/17 at 8:59 pm to JamalSanders
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What does the city of Auburn consider living in a certain place?
Auburn's city page has a specific page about this zoning restriction + link to maps Here
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If that changes, I will rat them out in a minute
This. The reason it can go unenforced is because it only gets reported if it is a problem.
Posted on 10/3/17 at 9:01 pm to Weagle25
So they stake out a house in order to get enough probable cause evidence to get a search warrant for more evidence to show you a judge?
How much money does this cost?
How much money does this cost?
Posted on 10/3/17 at 9:05 pm to GenesChin
Also some relevant details from Plainsman article LINK
So they knew for two years
For the record they said only 17 complaints
There is no way I'd want an 18YO who is only there for ~4 years having a voice on long term city planning
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She said she and her family had no idea about the ordinance until two years ago
So they knew for two years
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"There is nothing about those zoning regulations that is new," Cotten said
The unrelated occupancy rule was first passed in 1982 and has been on the books ever since, Cotten said.
City officials said there hasn’t been an increase or change in enforcement, but rather an increase in complaints filed with the Planning Department
For the record they said only 17 complaints
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“We feel as students that we’re being discriminated against and that we don’t have a voice,” she said. “I feel like we make up a large portion of the population of Auburn city. And I think we should have a voice. We’re being kind of treated like children.”
There is no way I'd want an 18YO who is only there for ~4 years having a voice on long term city planning
This post was edited on 10/3/17 at 9:11 pm
Posted on 10/3/17 at 9:09 pm to JamalSanders
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So they stake out a house in order
First, they get a complaint (only 17 total according to AU city)
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to get enough probable cause evidence to get a search warrant for more evidence to show you a judge?
"Enough evidence" is probably as simple as "There were 3 cars parked outside + they look unrelated." Getting a search warrent for something like this is probably super easy
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How much money does this cost?
Probably close to $0. What else are police officers on patrol/on the clock doing at 5-7AM / when driving by? This isn't dedicating to resources to a long term stake out like the movies
More importantly, the city residents who complain are willing to put their tax paid law enforcement up to the task so it doesn't matter how much it cost
This post was edited on 10/3/17 at 9:12 pm
Posted on 10/3/17 at 9:23 pm to JamalSanders
I've seen both sides and I can safely say students don't generally want to live close to families and families don't want to live close to students. It makes sense to have an ordinance that separates the two
Eta: GC makes great points above too
Eta: GC makes great points above too
This post was edited on 10/3/17 at 9:24 pm
Posted on 10/3/17 at 9:38 pm to Rig
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I've seen both sides and I can safely say students don't generally want to live close to families and families don't want to live close to students. It makes sense to have an ordinance that separates the two
The city makes an effort to make a large swath of properties available to students. It isn't some huge restriction at all. Most places in walking distance from Auburn's campus aren't at risk of this zoning law. Now the exception is older historic family neighborhoods like Payne Street but those are limited.
Just so we are clear reasons why students suck to live by if you are a grown a** adult that aren't property value / "party noise" related
- Students are Aholes: Students give 0 f**** about having a positive neighbor relationship/expect because they pay rent they should be catered to and never wrong
- Infrequent Noise: It isn't just parties, students coming home on Wed @11:30 with car lights, car doors slamming shut + talking outside sucks. Try putting a baby to sleep or having a spastic dog while needing to sleep
- College Friends: Even if the neighbors are good, their friends/visitors can cause problems
- Property Maintenance: Students/rentals don't maintain the property at the same minimum standard as homeowners
- Traffic: Students are in/out more frequently + add 20mph to every speed limit. You don't want busy streets + not a good thing in neighborhoods w/ kids
- Gatherings/Parties: It isn't cool to have your street turn into a parking lot even w/ 0 noise
- Neighbors: Hard to develop relationships with 1-2 yr student neighbors
- Drunk Driving: Tiger Transit/shuttle doesn't service residential neighborhoods and college kids drink more
- People start buying homes as rentals: They care about rental income, so their care about screening renters is a financial decision that may ignore cruddy neighbor qualities
This post was edited on 10/3/17 at 10:02 pm
Posted on 10/4/17 at 4:50 am to JamalSanders
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So the city of Auburn has a new ordinance or are just start to enforce an ordinance that bans more than two unrelated persons from living in certain neighborhoods in town. Students were served with eviction papers from the city within the past two weeks and we're given 30 days to vacate.
Are you messican? Just asking for a friend. :)
Posted on 10/4/17 at 6:46 am to GenesChin
Excellent thoughts GenesChin.
Thread.
Thread.
Posted on 10/4/17 at 6:49 am to JamalSanders
I lived a few houses down from the girls that got evicted from the house on Dumas. There are a few houses on that street with college kids.
Nothing of substance to add, but if anyone has ever been down Dumas Drive, you might have seen the small row of houses that is hidden behind some trees. Not sure how else to describe it, but you can see what I'm talking about on Google maps.
Anyways, the house on the side closest to Samford is a family that I can only describe as "hippy." Always had artwork displayed outside and bird feeders and shrines and other trippy shite. Their kids had to be named Willow and Clover.
A big house got built next to them a few years ago, and the dad got all bent out of shape about destroying nature. I think the phrase he used was "ostentatious display of wealth" or something.
So the people building the house built a big arse "Trump" wall at the edge of their property completely shadowing the hippy family's house from the sun at certain parts of the day. If you get a chance to drive by it, you should.
Anyways, it's nothing but college girls - hot ones - living in that house or was as of 2016. I wonder if the dad has filed a complaint against them yet.
Nothing of substance to add, but if anyone has ever been down Dumas Drive, you might have seen the small row of houses that is hidden behind some trees. Not sure how else to describe it, but you can see what I'm talking about on Google maps.
Anyways, the house on the side closest to Samford is a family that I can only describe as "hippy." Always had artwork displayed outside and bird feeders and shrines and other trippy shite. Their kids had to be named Willow and Clover.
A big house got built next to them a few years ago, and the dad got all bent out of shape about destroying nature. I think the phrase he used was "ostentatious display of wealth" or something.
So the people building the house built a big arse "Trump" wall at the edge of their property completely shadowing the hippy family's house from the sun at certain parts of the day. If you get a chance to drive by it, you should.
Anyways, it's nothing but college girls - hot ones - living in that house or was as of 2016. I wonder if the dad has filed a complaint against them yet.
This post was edited on 10/4/17 at 6:51 am
Posted on 10/4/17 at 7:12 am to JamalSanders
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Good write up.
I should add to the above there are city planning elements too. You want businesses/areas to be able to best locate/ serve communities
By concentrating college kids in an area, University can provide transit services, businesses for college kids know where to locate and people who want to live removed from college know not to be there
On the flip side, things like school bus routes, business targeting families, and other things can know where the grown ups are
Additionally, this zoning effectively makes the prime real estate around AU student rentals which is optimal for students. You don't want all the walking distance properties bought by families. The high concentration of students makes it unattractive to non students
This post was edited on 10/4/17 at 7:32 am
Posted on 10/4/17 at 7:21 am to GenesChin
In summation, frick this girl whining when they knew for two years they were breaking zoning laws.
This zoning is good for students in general and the community. They are created/exist for a reason
I would support the city giving an extension to let girls supposedly graduate in December though if that claim is true
This zoning is good for students in general and the community. They are created/exist for a reason
I would support the city giving an extension to let girls supposedly graduate in December though if that claim is true
This post was edited on 10/4/17 at 7:37 am
Posted on 10/4/17 at 1:13 pm to JamalSanders
HOLY shite. Almost moved into a zone that was in controversy. Thank god we chose not to risk it.
Posted on 10/4/17 at 5:07 pm to Tickytiger
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I received a post card from the city a month ago as a reminder of the regulation.
Don't remember seeing this in the mail. Live up N Donahue. Not really a hotbed for students though.
Posted on 10/4/17 at 7:25 pm to DeoreDX
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Don't remember seeing this in the mail. Live up N Donahue. Not really a hotbed for students though.
Zoning is only for select neighborhoods. They zone on an as needed basis. So newer developments that don't have issues with unrelated occupants = not being zoned that way
This post was edited on 10/4/17 at 7:34 pm
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