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re: Anyone else feel dumb?
Posted on 10/1/17 at 7:45 pm to Danger54
Posted on 10/1/17 at 7:45 pm to Danger54
Make no mistake, Gus Malzahn took Auburn to 2, thats right 2, National Championship games in a 4 years span right in the middle of Alabamas best run in college football history. Winning one of them and missing out on a second one by just a few plays.
After 50 years of NOTHING, Gus took us there twice. One time after what was one of, if not the worst year in modern day Auburn history. 50 YEARS !!! Make no mistake, if Gus was fired tomorrow, he would be a head coach at a top tier power 5 school by years end.
Auburn was unable to get to a National Championship during the Tubbs era even though Bama was down for the count. Before that, no national championships. Nothing. Nada
It appears you live in Alabama and I understand your obsession with Saban and the University of Alabama but make no mistake. They are a better program right now than we are. They are a better program than any other program out there right now and more than likely they will be until Saban either leaves or dies. Whatever he is doing (legally or illegally) it works and that machine is going to rebuild every single year. You wont compete with that having 1/3 of the tools (players) he has. Neither will anyone else. So you might want to turn off the Finebaum show for a while and accept reality
After 50 years of NOTHING, Gus took us there twice. One time after what was one of, if not the worst year in modern day Auburn history. 50 YEARS !!! Make no mistake, if Gus was fired tomorrow, he would be a head coach at a top tier power 5 school by years end.
Auburn was unable to get to a National Championship during the Tubbs era even though Bama was down for the count. Before that, no national championships. Nothing. Nada
It appears you live in Alabama and I understand your obsession with Saban and the University of Alabama but make no mistake. They are a better program right now than we are. They are a better program than any other program out there right now and more than likely they will be until Saban either leaves or dies. Whatever he is doing (legally or illegally) it works and that machine is going to rebuild every single year. You wont compete with that having 1/3 of the tools (players) he has. Neither will anyone else. So you might want to turn off the Finebaum show for a while and accept reality
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Posted on 10/1/17 at 7:52 pm to Danger54
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2010 and 2013 seem like flukes and until he proves everybody wrong, he will still have fans calling for his job.
Just a heads up but the same people who call '10 and '13 flukes will say the same thing about this year if it happens.
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Personally, I am still a little pissed that he left town when things got tough and everything went sideways in 2011. He goes and takes the Arkansas State job, has a good year with Freeze's players,
A little bit of a weird thing to be pissed about. Left an OC job to get some HC experience with a program where he knew he could succeed and close to where he's from.
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all of a sudden Jay Jacobs expects us to believe that he is some kind of savior.
Are we just making shite up now? What has Jacobs done to make you believe this? This is what kills me about our fanbase. We find one or two scapegoats and when things don't go the way you want, then we just make up a reason to blame that scapegoat. There's a lot of reasons to criticize Jacobs but this isn't one.
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There is no reason that what is happening in Tuscaloosa can't happen in Auburn and Malzahn is the reason why...
What's happening in Tuscaloosa rarely if ever happens. Are we going to keep firing coaches until we find one that can go to the SEC championship and playoff year in and year out? If we decide to do that then you might as well accept the fact that we will have a new coach every 3-4 years
Once in a lifetime coaches come around about once in a lifetime...hence the name...
This post was edited on 10/1/17 at 7:54 pm
Posted on 10/1/17 at 8:14 pm to Weagle25
one thing for sure, saban is absolutely legit but it sure didn't hurt that Tennessee, Florida and lsu collapsed during the run and auburn had more down then up years.
Right now it sure as heck looks like there are only 3 teams in the sec with the east paved in gold for Georgia and Alabama's schedule having multiple -50 games left.
Right now it sure as heck looks like there are only 3 teams in the sec with the east paved in gold for Georgia and Alabama's schedule having multiple -50 games left.
Posted on 10/1/17 at 8:56 pm to LanierSpots
Scot Loeffler could have coached our offense to a championship in 2010. Gus Malzahn lost the 2013 championship with his typical, conservative dumbassery that has become more common the past few years. He took his foot off the gas and we didn't have the defense to close out the game.
Call it obsession or whatever you said, but it is hard not to notice and be angry that your rival is the best in the sport. My point was that we could get the right coach and compete like Clemson and Ohio State have with Bama for championships.
Tommy Tuberville constantly over achieved at Auburn. He didn't bring in the players like we do now. That boost in recruiting most likely came from the 2010 championship.
When you have elite talent, you should compete for championships every year. What is our excuse?
Call it obsession or whatever you said, but it is hard not to notice and be angry that your rival is the best in the sport. My point was that we could get the right coach and compete like Clemson and Ohio State have with Bama for championships.
Tommy Tuberville constantly over achieved at Auburn. He didn't bring in the players like we do now. That boost in recruiting most likely came from the 2010 championship.
When you have elite talent, you should compete for championships every year. What is our excuse?
Posted on 10/1/17 at 9:01 pm to AUstar
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... Anyway, is there anyone still on the "fire Gus" bandwagon? If so, how do you justify it?
A Miss(y) State win and Gus saves face?
NIMHO...he still can't spot the talent at hand from the hoped for hype, which is why he still doesn't have his team ready to play until several games in. And he's making a (near criminal) career of running one star running back at a time into the ground by mid-season. He's also all but forgotten what got him the job in the first place (the HUNH fast - and the bases for his best seller). And he's just as likely as not, to reverting back to running on every 1st down as ever, followed by the ever popular signature-whirly-bird, and never moving the ball in the air inside the 20. Perhaps it would have been simpler to say, 'revert to predictably', but are we sure he's stopped? And I've not forgotten how he's quite-frankly-failed every HS QB he's tried to develop while at AU. Nor have I forgotten how he wouldn't allow QB's to use an off-season guru position coach, which is simply forever lost (allowable) practice time, and something they all could have obviously benefited from.
Nor do I call the 'Miracle in Jordan Hare' a brilliant call, instead of it being Nick Marshall saying, ' F__'it I know better than you'. Nor in the same stretch do I consider the Kick-Six anyway attributable to his acumen as a coach; and however spectacular these are, they're the two reasons for ultimately making it into the playoffs and 2013 NC game. Because honestly without these two non-Malzahn events it's a 5-3 SEC season, to go along with the 4-4, 2-6, and 5-3 he's tallied since becoming HC at Auburn, and hardly worth the millions (to go along with those 3 bowl losses out of 4).
So now suddenly in game four he's become a good coach? It's just as likely by game four he's finally willing to listen to other people around him, as he is to those voices in his head. Do you guys honestly believe a 3-2 Miss State is a power house quality win? It'll be real interesting to see how Gus performs the next four games (O'Ms, LSU, ARK, and TAMU) against very average SEC coaching (and the red-meat of the season). . . Melt over and out.
Posted on 10/1/17 at 9:04 pm to Danger54
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Tommy Tuberville constantly over achieved at Auburn. He didn't bring in the players like we do now. That boost in recruiting most likely came from the 2010 championship.
This is exactly the dumbassery that I have been talking about. Tubs winning percentage is a chunk lower than Malzahn's and Gus is doing with our rivals being at their best and not down and out like Tub's got to deal with.
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Scot Loeffler could have coached our offense to a championship in 2010.
and.... this proves you are as dumb as the internet is vast. Newton owe's his career to Malzahn for bringing him along. They were a match made in heaven. Newton's skill set was perfect for the style of offense that Gus wanted to run and got better as the season went on because Dyer was running the ball more and Newton settled to becoming a better passer.
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Call it obsession or whatever you said, but it is hard not to notice and be angry that your rival is the best in the sport. My point was that we could get the right coach and compete like Clemson and Ohio State have with Bama for championships.
it is easier to compete from the outside and away from the best. If Clemson was in the SEC, it would be a different story and as for Ohio State, Saban ran Meyer off from Florida. One of the sales pitches that Clemson/Swinney gave a running back last year or the year before was that they weren't in the SEC so they wouldn't be as beaten up going into the NFL.
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When you have elite talent, you should compete for championships every year. What is our excuse?
We don't have an excuse. We are a top 20 team historically and we still are. We went an awful long time without winning a championship but now our fanbase is dumb enough to demand one year in and year out. Here is your wake up call, it doesn't happen that way. Bama is on a run, nothing you can say or do about it, they are. We won't get that without a generational type coach and those don't come around that often.
Posted on 10/1/17 at 9:18 pm to Warfarer
What we have learned...
Cam Newton can thank Gus Malzahn for his success, not vice versa.
Tommy Tuberville led us to an undefeated season, but he was trash.
Gus Malzahn lost a championship, but it wasn't his fault.
Nick Saban, Alabama are the best and there's nothing we can do about it.
Thanks, guys. I have a new found respect for Gus Malzahn and all he has done for Auburn. Somebody call Jay Jacobs and get him to sign off on another raise and extension before he gets fired.
Cam Newton can thank Gus Malzahn for his success, not vice versa.
Tommy Tuberville led us to an undefeated season, but he was trash.
Gus Malzahn lost a championship, but it wasn't his fault.
Nick Saban, Alabama are the best and there's nothing we can do about it.
Thanks, guys. I have a new found respect for Gus Malzahn and all he has done for Auburn. Somebody call Jay Jacobs and get him to sign off on another raise and extension before he gets fired.
Posted on 10/1/17 at 9:20 pm to Danger54
Wtf over?
A lot of stupid up in hurr
A lot of stupid up in hurr
Posted on 10/1/17 at 9:24 pm to Danger54
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What we have learned...
Cam Newton can thank Gus Malzahn for his success, not vice versa.
Tommy Tuberville led us to an undefeated season, but he was trash.
Gus Malzahn lost a championship, but it wasn't his fault.
Nick Saban, Alabama are the best and there's nothing we can do about it.
Thanks, guys. I have a new found respect for Gus Malzahn and all he has done for Auburn. Somebody call Jay Jacobs and get him to sign off on another raise and extension before he gets fired.
Dude, you are pretty hysterical. You may need to take a break or get back on your meds. You really have not idea how all this works
The mere total dumbness in some of your statements is very difficult to even process.
Posted on 10/1/17 at 9:32 pm to Danger54
We went from fricking 3-9 to playing in the national championship game, beating Alabama and winning the SEC championship.
Are you on the dope?
Are you on the dope?
Posted on 10/1/17 at 9:37 pm to higgs_boson
We went from 5-7 in 2008 to a national championship in 2010. Does that make Gene Chizik a great coach?
Posted on 10/1/17 at 9:38 pm to N97883
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one thing for sure, saban is absolutely legit but it sure didn't hurt that Tennessee, Florida and lsu collapsed during the run and auburn had more down then up years.
UT, Florida and LSU collapsing while Auburn was inconsistent is a reflection of Saban's recruiting. Finishing #1 for 4/5 years in a row means 3-6 5 stars or 4 stars not on other teams. Over the course of 4/5 years that is 20 or so guys. That means while bama gets stronger all the other programs get weaker.
Posted on 10/1/17 at 10:02 pm to LanierSpots
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I got shotgun
and your head is in his lap. IDK whether to spray you two off with the hose or just get you a fricking room already.
Posted on 10/1/17 at 10:03 pm to Danger54
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Scot Loeffler could have coached our offense to a championship in 2010. Gus Malzahn lost the 2013 championship with his typical, conservative dumbassery that has become more common the past few years.
Trolololol
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My point was that we could get the right coach and compete like Clemson and Ohio State have with Bama for championships.
Seems like if it was that easy then everyone would do it. OSU and Bama lucked out with timing and having those elite coaches available when they had an opening. You see a coach out there right now that's elite and looking for a college job? Kelly maybe but would he come here over other openings? Quite a gamble.
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Tommy Tuberville constantly over achieved at Auburn.
Tubs and Gus have had pretty similar results yet Gus underachieves and Tubs overachieves. You lost me there
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He didn't bring in the players like we do now. That boost in recruiting most likely came from the 2010 championship.
You act like they recruited at two completely different levels. Tubs' classes averaged out at about 12-13. Gus' classes average out at about 7-8.
Also you act like we automatically recruit at that level which we don't.
Posted on 10/1/17 at 10:03 pm to Tigerman97
I live in Georgia and most of my friends are UGA fans. Beat UGA and I'm on the bus, lose to them and I'll hitch hike..
Posted on 10/1/17 at 10:11 pm to Weagle25
quote:I love how easy some poster make it sound to find "the next Saban", but then can't definitively name him.
My point was that we could get the right coach and compete like Clemson and Ohio State have with Bama for championships.
Urban Meyer is the only college HC I can think of in recent years who went from "flavor of the month" lower tier school success to an NC.
Be honest, back in 2008, who in their right mind looked at Clemson firing Tommy Bowden mid-season and replacing him with a goofy looking career assistant with a little kid's name, who'd never even been a coordinator, and thought "That's a brilliant move that will put them at the top of CFB within a decade"?
Posted on 10/1/17 at 10:16 pm to Weagle25
Gus- 67% wins at AU
Tubs- 68% wins at AU
Gus gets credit for recruiting better, but no blame for winning less?
Tubs- 68% wins at AU
Gus gets credit for recruiting better, but no blame for winning less?
Posted on 10/1/17 at 10:20 pm to Danger54
We have lost one game, to the defending national champs at their house. By one score.
Like others said we have played for a national championship twice while Nick Saban has been on a once in a generation run at Alabama.
We just beat two SEC opponents by an obscene amount of points and are likely to do it again this weekend.
EDIT and who was the OC for Gene when we won?
The defense looks amazing and our qb is really accurate.
If you cannot enjoy being undefeated in the SEC and ranked, then what exactly will it take?
Your posts are nothing but put downs on this team and Tenn.
The bus should back over your arse at this point.
Like others said we have played for a national championship twice while Nick Saban has been on a once in a generation run at Alabama.
We just beat two SEC opponents by an obscene amount of points and are likely to do it again this weekend.
EDIT and who was the OC for Gene when we won?
The defense looks amazing and our qb is really accurate.
If you cannot enjoy being undefeated in the SEC and ranked, then what exactly will it take?
Your posts are nothing but put downs on this team and Tenn.
The bus should back over your arse at this point.
This post was edited on 10/1/17 at 10:21 pm
Posted on 10/1/17 at 10:20 pm to AUstar
FTR, I still don't fell any dumber now than I did three weeks ago.
This team has the talent to win 10 regular season games. I expected us to lose to Clemson - I thought they wouldnt drop off much, and breaking in so many new pieces on the road against the defending champion was a stiff challenge. And I figured we would probably lose to Bama, because they are still on an epic run that likely won't slow down until Saban loses his touch due to age, which may still be a few years away.
I still think it's possible, more so than I thought before yesterday. But Gustav still has some of the same frustrating tendencies that have burned us in the past. I'm not yet convinced he is capable of overcoming them, but I'll remain cautiously optimistic.
This team has the talent to win 10 regular season games. I expected us to lose to Clemson - I thought they wouldnt drop off much, and breaking in so many new pieces on the road against the defending champion was a stiff challenge. And I figured we would probably lose to Bama, because they are still on an epic run that likely won't slow down until Saban loses his touch due to age, which may still be a few years away.
I still think it's possible, more so than I thought before yesterday. But Gustav still has some of the same frustrating tendencies that have burned us in the past. I'm not yet convinced he is capable of overcoming them, but I'll remain cautiously optimistic.
Posted on 10/1/17 at 10:21 pm to AUstar
Still on-board the fire Gus train until we beat LSU and UGA.
He's not fooling me running shite up on awful defenses like last year.
He's not fooling me running shite up on awful defenses like last year.
This post was edited on 10/1/17 at 10:22 pm
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