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re: 2018 Football Recruiting Thread -- Final OP Update Edition

Posted on 8/22/17 at 7:59 am to
Posted by TigerPaw1
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Posted on 8/22/17 at 7:59 am to
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2. Coynis Miller, 4-star defensive tackle, Jackson-Olin — uncommitted

Aside from the only person ranked ahead of him, Coynis Miller is the state’s most heavily recruited prospect by Auburn and Alabama. The big defensive tackle has the strength and ability to be one of the top prospects in the entire country. As his high school coach says, if his motor matches his skill set, there’s nothing stopping Miller from being one of the top-10 prospects in the class. There aren’t many offensive linemen in the nation who can stop Miller from doing what he wants.
Posted by TigerPaw1
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Posted on 8/22/17 at 7:59 am to
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1. Justyn Ross, 4-star wide receiver, Central — uncommitted

Justin Ross is the No. 1 or 2 wide receiver target for Alabama, Auburn, Clemson and Florida State. That tells you all you need to know about why he should be considered the state’s top prospect. There aren’t many receivers in the country with his size (6-foot-4), ability to jump and above-average speed. He’s very tough for any corner to lock down because of his physicality. He still needs to polish his route-running, but he has mightily improved from where he was a year ago.
Posted by WareagleKK
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Posted on 8/22/17 at 8:22 am to
Got some pretty good intel on Ross this weekend. Clemson is his leader.

He has taken the bait on being the next in the great line of WR at "WRU". Will be very tough to overcome them in this race. Auburn would need a humongous year in the passing game and really showcase some WRs.
Posted by TigerPaw1
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Posted on 8/22/17 at 8:29 am to
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Got some pretty good intel on Ross this weekend. Clemson is his leader.

He has taken the bait on being the next in the great line of WR at "WRU". Will be very tough to overcome them in this race. Auburn would need a humongous year in the passing game and really showcase some WRs.

I mean honestly, I don't blame him. They have a strong recent track record. My only fear is does Bama then go hard after Seth Williams and we are left with neither...

Also the Clemson posters will be unbearable on the SECRB...
Posted by TigerPaw1
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Posted on 8/22/17 at 8:34 am to
Gonna try each week to keep track of how commits/targets did. Will probably update this as week goes on if more info comes out. No promises on accuracy but will do my best. Also will link any highlights that come out

AU Commits

4* QB Joey Gatewood - No Game, plays on ESPN2 this Saturday vs Trevor Lawrence

4* WR Matthew Hill - 4 rec 23 yds 4 carries 20 yds 3 punt returns 64 yards 4 kick returns 91 yds fumble
Long punt return
Tipped INT TD

4* S Quindarious Monday - 3 rec 100 yds TD in 50-18 win over Lithonia
couldn't find defensive stats besides a blocked kick
Long TD catch

4* LB Michael Harris - 6 tackles 1.5 TFL 2 QBH PB in OT win over Kell

3* RB Shaun Shivers - No Game

3* S Jamien Sherwood - No Game

3* OG Jalil Irvin - lost to Cedar Grove 34-14

3* DL Daquan Newkirk - No Game

3* OG Kameron Stutts - No Game

3* WR Shedrick Jackson - No Game

3* S Kolbi Fuqua - No Game

3* LB/S Josh Marsh - No Game

AU Targets

5* QB Justin Fields - 11/20 228 yds 4 TD 12 carries 153 yds 2 TDs in win over East Paulding
Highlights vs East Paulding

4* OG Trey Hill - got whooped by Jones County

4* WR Justyn Ross - No Game

4* LB JJ Peterson - played limited snaps due to sports hernia in win over Norcross
JJ Peterson rushing the QB

4* OT Dylan Wonnum - started at RT in win OT win over Kell
Video of Wonnum blocking

4* CB Kyler McMichael - 15 carries 93 yds TD 2 fumbles in 46-14 win over Lovett
couldn't find defensive stats
TD run

4* LB Quay Walker - 10 tackles in win over Dooly County

4* Buck Richard Jibunor - No Game

4* RB Asa Martin - No Game

4* DT Coynis Miller - No Game

4* WR Seth Williams - No Game

3* DE Andres Fox - No Game

3* Kayode Oladele - No Game

3* QB Steven Krajewski - 13/20 138 yds in win over Norcross
Posted by GoCrazyAuburn
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Posted on 8/22/17 at 8:41 am to
Posted by jrljr
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Posted on 8/22/17 at 9:57 am to
quote:

2. Coynis Miller, 4-star defensive tackle, Jackson-Olin — uncommitted

Aside from (Maybe) Fields, CM is the want I really want. He seems to have a nasty streak.
Posted by TigerPaw1
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Posted on 8/22/17 at 10:15 am to
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Aside from (Maybe) Fields, CM is the want I really want. He seems to have a nasty streak.

My top 5 want list in order

1.) Justin Fields
2.) Quindarious Monday
3.) Jalyn Armour-Davis
4.) Coynis Miller
5.) Michael Harris

I think all five of those guys are top 100 talents at positions that will need impact players very soon. If we go 4/5 on that I will be stoked
Posted by ellitor
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Posted on 8/22/17 at 12:37 pm to
quote:

Got some pretty good intel on Ross this weekend. Clemson is his leader.

He has taken the bait on being the next in the great line of WR at "WRU". Will be very tough to overcome them in this race. Auburn would need a humongous year in the passing game and really showcase some WRs.
Interesting. Other AU sources say Bama leads.
Posted by ellitor
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Posted on 8/22/17 at 12:43 pm to
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My top 5 want list in order


Mine

1. Fields
2. Coynis (most important recruit in class after JF)
3. Jibunor (We have potential but no proven big time pass rushers on roster)
4. Good & Big Safety class: check!
5. Kyler McMichael
Posted by ellitor
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Posted on 8/22/17 at 12:49 pm to
FWIW JLee is more confident on Asa to AU than he was in the article he did a day or so ago. Also FWIW Andrew Bone did an Asa article today. Given his history if he felt Bama was getting Asa he would have boasted it. He didn't give a pick in the article. Other AU sources are echoing JLee FWIW.
Posted by ChexMix
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Posted on 8/22/17 at 6:28 pm to
Asa gonna be a Tiger. Dont see him going to Bama to sit, plus he has to know that there will be more opportunities to start at Auburn
Posted by RandySavage
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Posted on 8/22/17 at 6:43 pm to
1. Fields
2. Miller
3. McMichael
4. Wonnum
5. Williams/Ross
Posted by TigerPaw1
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Posted on 8/22/17 at 8:52 pm to
KN put up a most likely to flip article featuring two players 4* LB Quay Walker & 4* CB Kyler McMichael

Walker - Thinks he's 40-50% solid right now and there's a lot of buzz that Walker's commitment not solid. AU has reason for optimism due to Walker's close relationship with Big Kat Bryant and Travis Williams. On the other hand, Bama doesn't often lose players they want and if he did decide to flip FSU would be a major threat

McMichael - Thinks he's 40% committed. KN has heard that McMichael wants to play CB which AU is recruiting him for while Clemson has him at safety. He's gotten close with the AU coaching staff and had 2 good visits before committing to Clemson. On the other hand, if he does decommit UGA is a very real threat. Mentions that UGA commits in ATL area would push hard as well.


I honestly think whomever gets Walker to visit last will land him. Seems like that type of kid (similar to Bryant really). As for McMichael, I am hopeful but not gonna get hopes too high just yet. Hopefully a strong start to the season that includes a Clemson win makes things interesting
Posted by TigerPaw1
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Posted on 8/22/17 at 8:55 pm to
Notable recruiting wins over Bama under Malzahn (247)

Copy & past disabled so you on your own for details. Here's who he listed

LB Tadarian Moultry
OT Austin Troxell
DT Derrick Brown
DE Marlon Davidson
DE Nick Coe
RB Kerryon Johnson
DE Byron Cowart --> seems like a reach on this one
TE Jalen Harris
RB Roc Thomas
LB Tre Williams
CB Stephen Roberts
DT Montravius Adams
RB Jovon Robinson
Posted by TigerPaw1
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Posted on 8/22/17 at 9:00 pm to
Catching up on some AL.com articles, specifically the A-List ones

A-List No. 6: Mountain Brook's Harold Joiner is a Sneakerhead at heart (AL.com)
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Harold Joiner is a sneakerhead. That's why this fall, Joiner plans to turn heads with his rushing antics and stylish cleats.

Jones plans to showcase his white cleats for Mountain Brook's home games and black cleats for road games, complete with gold chrome trim.

"They have my number and my name on the back, it's pretty nice," said Joiner, whose fashion flare is surpassed only by the back flips the 6-foot-3, 225-pound running back showed off on Twitter.


For decades, teenagers collected sports trading cards and autographs from their idols, everything from signed balls to bobbleheads and posters. Today, as Joiner enters his final season at Mountain Brook, he is a modern-day collector, able to appreciate the beauty of a sport full of colliding artistry and fashion which offers a glimpse into personalities beyond facemasks.

Please forgive Joiner, ranked No. 6 on AL.com's A-List, the ranking of the state's top senior football prospects, for not allowing opponents to get a good, up-close view of his cleats. No, this sneakerhead plans to keep moving, keeping pushing, keep pump, pump, pumping his legs all the way to the end zone, all the way to his college of choice.

Joiner said he has plenty to prove before leaving Alabama high school football, and he's ready to do it. In style, of course.


ODELL WOULD BE PROUD

sneak*er*head

1. A person who collects limited, rare, OG, or flat out exclusive kicks. Usually the collection consists of Jordans or Dunks.
2. A person with background knowledge of certain sneakers.

Yo, that cat always be rockin fresh sneaks. Gotta be a sneakerhead.


(Source: Urban Dictionary)

Joiner's collection includes football cleats (of course), basketball shoes and regular shoes. Nice football gloves too. Lots of colors. Full of attitude. Bold. Different. Entertaining. That's Joiner.

He has nine pairs of cleats, some he's never worn, and may never wear. He's collected cleats since his sophomore season of high school, when he last balanced football and basketball. NFL star receiver Odell Beckham Jr. is one of Joiner's sneakerhead inspirations.


"You can tell what he's about because of his cleats," Joiner said of Beckham Jr. "He has the 'Joker' cleats, the 'Christmas' cleats. He had the 'Breast Cancer' cleats."

As Joiner discusses life as a sneakerhead, he's sporting pink cleats, worn earlier against Jackson-Olin in a summer non-contact scrimmage.

Of course, Air Jordan has a permanent place in Joiner's closest. "They're just good-looking shoes," he said.

Here's a list of Joiner's favorites in the Air Jordan Shoe Series:

Air Jordan I - "Notorious" - 1984-85

Air Jordan III - "Gotta Be the Shoes" - 1988

Air Jordan VI - "Promised Land" - 1991

Air Jordan XI - "Class Act" - 1996

Air Jordan XIII - "Black Cat Pounces" - 1998

Joiner said he sold most of his basketball shoes after deciding as a junior to focus on football. Still, Joiner has held on to his Nike Kobe EYBL sneakers.

"They're like neon purple, neon pink, neon green with like gold on the bottom," Joiner said, smiling. "They're pretty nice."

His favorite pair?

The Adidas Yeezys in all-black.


1,000 YARDS?

Would you buy a pair of HJ1s? (Hard Joiner's first signature shoe)

A few years from now, your kids, the next generation of sneakerheads, may promise to clean their room every day for a year if you buy the shoes associated with their favorite NFL star. Watch out Big Baller Brand.

Pro football or not, Joiner is interested in a future in sports marketing, a career journey which could lead him to Nike.

Said Joiner: "Marketing is a cool way to show a different side of you."

Not that Joiner is in a rush to embark on his marketing career. Up first is football. He has trimmed his college recruiting list to Michigan State and LSU, his final two options. Both schools are competing to earn his commitment and even more important, his signature of National Signing Day 2018.


But first, Joiner's senior season at Mountain Brook.

Joiner will try to post the first 1,000-yard rushing campaign of his high school career. As a junior, Joiner rushed for nearly 800 yards. He will share the backfield with AJ Gates.

Joiner will attempt to blend speed, scores and of course, style en route to Mountain Brook's latest playoff run.

"People ask me all the time: 'What cleats are you wearing today?'" Joiner said, setting up his own punch line. "I'm like, 'I don't know yet.'"
Posted by TigerPaw1
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Posted on 8/22/17 at 9:02 pm to
Why Matt Rhule retweeted an Auburn offer to Baylor commitment (AL.com)
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In the deluge of social media posts and design critiques of football scholarship letters recruits began receiving on Aug. 1 were a pair of unusual retweets by Baylor coach Matt Rhule.

The new Bears coach retweeted offers to Baylor commitments from two other schools, including one from Auburn to 3-star tight end Ben Sims and the other from fellow in-state and Big XII program TCU to 3-star offensive tackle Jackson Kimble.


Even in the bizarre world of college football recruiting, in which the NCAA began allowing coaches to endorse or republish (i.e. like or retweet) public postings of recruits last year, for a coach of a major program to essentially highlight the workings of another program, particularly in the same conference and state, stood out as highly unorthodox.

Imagine the fallout if, for example, Gus Malzahn retweeted an Alabama or Georgia offer to an Auburn commit, or if Jim Harbaugh retweeted Ohio State offers to Michigan commits or Tom Herman liking Texas A&M offers to Texas commits.

Rhule explained his approach to recruiting on social media.

"We feel like if a kid commits to us we want to celebrate any accolades or recognition he gets," Rhule told AL.com. "Our job isn't to hold him back but to have his back."

Malzahn, whose rare retweets are typically from Auburn-affiliated accounts, was unaware Rhule had republished Auburn's offer.

"That doesn't bother me at all," Malzahn said. "We just worry about ourselves."

TCU coach Gary Patterson declined comment for this story.

Auburn offensive line coach Herb Hand is one of the more active college assistants on Twitter. Hand knows Rhule, a former Penn State linebacker, from his time coaching with the Nittany Lions when Rhule was at Temple, but probably won't be employing the same tactics anytime soon.

"I'll let Matt Rhule do Matt Rhule," Hand said. "He's a good dude; I like him. Obviously, everyone has their own philosophy and that sort of stuff and how they manage it."


Auburn defensive line coach Rodney Garner, consistently one of the program's better recruiters, was also unaware of Rhule's retweet of the Tigers' offer.

Asked if he'd ever retweet an Auburn commit's offer from another school, Garner said, "I'm doing things I never thought about doing before. I mean everything - you got to be able to evaluate and adjust really."

There's no denying that some of the method to Rhule's strategy is to point out other schools desire Baylor's commitments.

Should the day ever come that a Baylor commit flips to a school Rhule essentially promoted by retweeting its offer to that player, he said it won't stop him from continuing the practice.

"I will always do it," Rhule said. "It should all be about the players. If a kid decides that this isn't the best place for him, then we always support kids doing what's right for them."


Feel like Crepea really reaching on this story
Posted by TigerPaw1
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Posted on 8/22/17 at 9:03 pm to
Inside Hoover wide receiver George Pickens' early pledge to Auburn (AL.com)
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A strong spring helped Hoover junior receiver George Pickens establish himself as one of the state's top 2019 recruits.

The 6-foot-5, 190-pound Pickens also made a big decision, committing to Auburn after performing well at a camp.

Pickens doesn't have much varsity experience. Last year, he starred in junior varsity games on Monday and also gave the first team defense some practice competition.

"He did some really nice things during practice," Hoover coach Josh Niblett said. "He ran a lot of (scout team) look against our 1D (first team defense) and they struggled stopping him."

Pickens will be a starter this fall at the Z-receiver position, opposite fellow Auburn commit Shedrick Jackson. But Niblett said they would try to use Pickens to create mismatches anywhere they can.


Hoover, the defending Class 7A champions, visits Georgia power Grayson in Loganville, Ga., on Friday to open the season.

"George's ball skills are second to none," Niblett said. "He's got good speed. He's got good length. For a guy who can play the ball in the air like he can, it's pretty amazing.

"Growing up, you could always tell that George has tried to work on his skill. That's what has given him a chance to be a difference-maker on the field."


Pickens' brother, Chris Humes, played for Auburn offensive coordinator Chip Lindsey at Spain Park. Many commitments this early in someone's high school career don't last. However, Niblett feels Pickens made the wise decision.

"I thought he was smart," Niblett said. "You're going to play at Auburn and if that's where you want to play, go play. Now, you can relax and concentrate on being the best high school player you can be, enjoy your junior and senior year and you don't have to worry about the stress of people bugging you all the time."

Even after last season, where Pickens didn't get much varsity experience, Niblett got the word out. Pickens then earned his major offers with strong performances in camps and spring practice.

Now, the four-star recruit is Auburn's first class of 2019 pledge.

He's also not the only talented receiver for the Bucs. Niblett said senior Martavius Hollifield is behind Pickens and senior Shaw Niblett is behind Jackson on the outside.

He mentioned inside receivers Jacquez Allen, Zach Elam, Jack Henry Milligan, Tim Booker, Xavier Long and Nick Davis as having chances to play this fall.

"This group's got a chance to be really special," Niblett said.
Posted by TigerPaw1
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Posted on 8/22/17 at 9:06 pm to
A-List No. 4: Asa Martin continues Courtland's football legacy (AL.com)
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Ask Asa Martin what his hometown is and he'll proudly tell you Courtland.

Martin is a four-star, 2018 running back at Austin High in Decatur, but he grew up about 21 miles west in the tiny, football-rich town of Courtland in Lawrence County.

"Growing up in Courtland, there ain't much to do around there, so me and my cousins played football out in the front yard," said Martin, the No. 4 player on AL.com's A-List of the state's top senior recruits.

Martin's family is part of Courtland's gridiron legacy. His uncle, Bruce Jones, was an All-American defensive back at UNA and a seventh-round pick of the Chicago Bears in 1986. Another uncle, Quinton Harris, played on both the offensive and defensive lines at UAB from 2003-06. A cousin, Eddrick Harris, was a defensive back at UNA from 2012-16. Cousin Eddquerion Harris is a redshirt-junior defensive tackle for the Lions.


"It means a lot," said Martin, who along with his mom and younger brother, moved to Decatur prior to his sixth-grade year. "I try to mention Courtland as much as I can; it's where I'm from. I've got so much respect for the town and the people as a whole. It's always going to be a part of me."

Family and football are intertwined for Martin. He dreams of making it to the NFL so that he can help give his mom, Sharay Harris, and brother, Austin sophomore Austin Harris, a better life. Another driving force when Martin takes the field is the memory of his grandmother, Velvet Ann Harris, who died before his eighth-grade year.

"I was always questioning 'why?' and stuff like that, but I've dealt with it in my ways," Martin said of his grandmother's death. "I've used that as motivation, as well."

Martin's strong ties to family and home - whether it be Courtland or Decatur - made his decision to play his junior season at IMG Academy in Florida difficult. During his one season at the Bradenton-based powerhouse, Martin ran for 372 yards and four touchdowns while seeing far less action than his sophomore year at Austin (1,374 yards and 12 TDs; he also played defense). Still, Martin felt the experience paid off. He left as a budding recruit weighing in at about 175 pounds, and returned at about 190 with a four-star rating.

For Martin, moving back to Alabama was an easy choice.

"Because I had already went (to IMG) and got everything I needed out of it," he said. "I just wanted to come back and enjoy my senior year."

Sharay was certainly happy about Martin's homecoming. She had experienced sleepless nights and "a lot of crying."

"Coming back was exciting for him," Sharay said. "He wanted to get ahead, grab his stars and get all the offers. I'm not saying he couldn't have got them here, but him just going out and going against more talent, it gave him a broader group to go up against. I think he handled it pretty well."

Martin said he kept in touch with Austin players while in Florida and that he tried to return to watch Black Bears games if he had an off week at IMG. That helped when it came time for his return.

"I felt like I was welcomed back with open arms," he said.

Austin eighth-year coach Jeremy Perkins was pleased with the way Martin was able to reunite with his old teammates.

"He's handled it with maturity," Perkins said. "The guys welcomed him back. But he's had to come back and earn his way. He's had to prove that he's the guy. He's had to work hard. He's come back ready to go. I think he's excited about it. The players are excited about him being back."

Martin will soon make another decision regarding a move. He's set to commit Thursday, choosing between Alabama, Auburn, Florida and Clemson.

"This has been like ... I don't know how he does it. I'm overwhelmed," Sharay said of the attention Martin has received as the nation's No. 10-rated running back.

Martin, meanwhile, has been a cool customer, according to Sharay.

"It's not like you'll say, 'Hey! There's a kid with all these offers,'" she said. "If you didn't know Asa, you wouldn't be able to point him out in a crowd to say that he's that kid.

"He's real calm and laid back; very intelligent. If he sets his mind to something, he really likes to go after it."

Martin plans to graduate in December and enroll for the college spring semester, marking the next step in a journey that began with a kid playing midget-league quarterback on the fields of Courtland.

"They switched me to running back when I was 10 or 11," Martin said. "I was mad about it; I didn't want to play running back. It all worked out for the best."

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Posted on 8/22/17 at 9:09 pm to
Why Quanderrius Robinson's Auburn workout ended with tears (AL.com)
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Quanderrius Robinson enters this sophomore season at Jackson-Olin with one or two career tackles and one college football offer (thanks, Auburn!).

Robinson's emergence into college football recruiting is far from not normal, given his lack of playing time and experience on the high school level. But his measurables are just as atypical. At 6-foot-4, 200 pounds. Robinson is also energetic and coachable. And he's gearing up for a big fall.

So for the third time in as many seasons, Jackson-Olin enters the fall with another SEC recruit. Not long ago, the Mustangs were one of the losing programs in Birmingham City Schools. No more.

Linebacker TD Moultry (Class of 2017), now at Auburn, created the winning foundation. Defensive end/Wildcat quarterback Coynis Miller (Class of 2018) aims this season to continue the tradition. Meanwhile, Robinson and others will be charged with making sure SEC schools continue to stop by the campus to scout big-time talent.


It's quite a burden for Robinson, who this offseason moved from outside linebacker to free safety. But he loves challenges.

"One minute, I'm sitting right here, watching players play," said Robinson, who last season was a backup to Moultry and Montez Coleman. "Good players. Next thing I know, I'm one of the players they expect to make big plays.

"I'll get my chance."

So far, so good for Robinson, who performed well enough last month in front of Auburn coaches to earn his first college football scholarship offer.

Entering the trip, Robinson said he was nervous. But one of his coaches told him to treat the private workout like another football practice at Jackson-Olin. He did, plus more.

Robinson said he has a habit of starting slow. Cold feet, his size 13 cleats looking instead of reacting.

Not during the Auburn workout. Backpedaling. Flipping of the hips. Changing directions. He did it all. And fast.

"I was happy, I was impressed by what I did," Robinson said. "Never thought I'd do something like that. I was kind of crying. I tried not to cry, but I had never experienced anything like that before."


The next day, Robinson worked out at Alabama. He didn't leave with an offer, but he left with plenty to ponder. Some of the drills have helped his backpedaling, drills he shared with teammates back in Birmingham.

And he got a better sense of what it takes to play college football. "Everything has to be urgent," he said. "There's no walking."

Even during a high school workout.

"We were doing a drill, right. ... Backpedal, flip your hips, flip backwards then run back out the opposite way. I was a little bit too slow to get out there. (A coach told him) 'Come on. We're on a fast tempo. You got to hurry up, especially if you're thinking about coming to Alabama, or any college.'

"It's a quick tempo. Auburn is too, but it was slower than Alabama."


Robinson is still learning to play free safety, a position he switched to because of Jackson-Olin's need at the position. He's being recruited as an outside linebacker.

Thanks for that last bit there Quanderrius...
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