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the biggest issue as I see it...
Posted on 10/26/16 at 1:42 pm
Posted on 10/26/16 at 1:42 pm
is still recruiting.... yes it's better.... but there's no denying we have not recruited well at LB
also it doesn't take a mental giant to realize we had some huge misses from an evaluation standpoint on the OL as well.
Whatever it takes to improve recruiting needs to happen fast.
also it doesn't take a mental giant to realize we had some huge misses from an evaluation standpoint on the OL as well.
Whatever it takes to improve recruiting needs to happen fast.
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Posted on 10/26/16 at 1:44 pm to ElDawgHawg
it should also be pointed out that our OL commits for the coming year are 3 star guys.... not exactly lighting it up there.
Posted on 10/26/16 at 1:47 pm to ElDawgHawg
KA needs to be let go. Coach should have just gone out and gotten Bob Bostad the whole time or someone who is an ace recruiter. KA had never recruited at a high level before, let alone in the SEC anywhere.
Posted on 10/26/16 at 1:55 pm to ElDawgHawg
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Whatever it takes to improve recruiting needs to happen fast.
I'm not sure what some people expect, when is the last time we ever recruiting in the top 20 consistently?
Posted on 10/26/16 at 2:09 pm to rockiee
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I'm not sure what some people expect, when is the last time we ever recruiting in the top 20 consistently?
Never. We are not as consistently good now because we play in a much tougher conference than the SWC ever was. It's not rocket science.
Posted on 10/26/16 at 2:15 pm to TheCheshireHog
I was told by some old Ags back in the 1970s yall were the second choice for Texas talent.
Posted on 10/26/16 at 2:24 pm to TheCheshireHog
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Never.
Exactly, so I wish this idea of just bringing in a great recruiter and getting great classes would stop.
Posted on 10/26/16 at 2:25 pm to cardboardboxer
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I was told by some old Ags back in the 1970s yall were the second choice for Texas talent.
Maybe that was true but a lot has changed since then
Posted on 10/26/16 at 2:37 pm to rockiee
Yeah our program uses to be alot better than se on this board give it credit for. It's ok to expect excellence at arkansas. We shouldn't settle for 8-9 win ceilings. We are capable of winning 10 games every 3 years or so.
Posted on 10/26/16 at 2:44 pm to Hawgnsincebirth55
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It's ok to expect excellence at arkansas. We shouldn't settle for 8-9 win ceilings. We are capable of winning 10 games every 3 years or so.
I don't disagree with that. I think averaging 9 wins is capable and reasonable. I just think we have to do it with a coach that is a good judge of talent and can coach them up. I don't think trying to find a coach who is great at recruiting is going to solve the issues.
Posted on 10/26/16 at 5:50 pm to rockiee
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I'm not sure what some people expect, when is the last time we ever recruiting in the top 20 consistently?
When's the last time Oregion did it until 10 years ago? When's the last TCU did it until recently?
Times change. We have all of this SEC money. Where is it going?
Posted on 10/26/16 at 6:21 pm to boogiewoogie1978
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When's the last TCU did it until recently?
They havn't even done it recently so I'm not sure what your point is
They have finished twice in the 40s over the past 5 years
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When's the last time Oregion did it until 10 years ago?
I mean if we had Adidas pumping money into the program than we might have a shot
Posted on 10/26/16 at 6:44 pm to rockiee
But look where tcu has also finished the past 5 years. I'd take a year like they're having now if next year or the year after we're playing in the rose bowl or cotton
Posted on 10/26/16 at 7:09 pm to Hawgnsincebirth55
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But look where tcu has also finished the past 5 years
Sure, they have had good coaching. That is my whole point. We don't need to find some great recruiter. TCU has done very well with some mediocre to bad recruiting.
Posted on 10/26/16 at 7:11 pm to cardboardboxer
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I was told by some old Ags back in the 1970s yall were the second choice for Texas talent.
We were, for a brief period in time, losing seasons still occurred, Holtz expanded the recruiting map way north instead of relying only on Texas.
Posted on 10/26/16 at 7:14 pm to rockiee
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Sure, they have had good coaching. That is my whole point. We don't need to find some great recruiter. TCU has done very well with some mediocre to bad recruiting.
The same TCU who this "bad" Arkansas team beat at home?
Patterson succeeds in taking the best athlete on their HS team (RB/QB) and convincing them to play LB/DB.
Meanwhile we try that and get guys who refuse to switch to the other side of the ball and either sit the bench for 4 years or transfer.
Posted on 10/26/16 at 7:16 pm to DaleDenton
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The same TCU who this "bad" Arkansas team beat at home?
Well, you are calling them bad not me.
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Patterson succeeds in taking the best athlete on their HS team (RB/QB) and convincing them to play LB/DB.
Meanwhile we try that and get guys who refuse to switch to the other side of the ball and either sit the bench for 4 years or transfer.
So, isn't that a sign of good coaching?
Posted on 10/26/16 at 7:19 pm to rockiee
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So, isn't that a sign of good coaching?
Do you really think recruiting classes of "athletes" and hoping they find a spot to stick will work in the SEC?
Posted on 10/26/16 at 7:22 pm to DaleDenton
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Do you really think recruiting classes of "athletes" and hoping they find a spot to stick will work in the SEC?
When did this become me wanting Patterson to become our coach? It has worked for him in the past with the Big 12 so it is a smart move. Just because I was giving Patterson props for that doesn't mean I want him.
Posted on 10/26/16 at 7:26 pm to rockiee
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When did this become me wanting Patterson to become our coach? It has worked for him in the past with the Big 12 so it is a smart move. Just because I was giving Patterson props for that doesn't mean I want him.
It didn't.
Its a simple question, do you think his philosophy in recruiting will work in the SEC?
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