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Takeaways from the Tennessee game
Posted on 10/4/15 at 10:10 am
Posted on 10/4/15 at 10:10 am
RWIII is getting better each game. When he sees a hole he explodes through it.
Defense played extremely well this game. They didn't give up a lot on the ground and they got pressure on Dobbs, affecting his throws. They also kept their running and QB scrambling game in check most of the game. I still think we're too thin at LB to have real defensive success this year but we might be able to play "good enough" to win some games.
Enos made a lot of questionable calls this game. The most obvious was the fake FG. Our kicking game has been atrocious so I can see where he was coming from but I'd rather line up and run our offense on 4th than fake FG.
Hedlund's kicks are all too low. Even the first extra point I nearly shat myself because it barely cleared the line.
I think Enos needed to do a better job of staying balanced. We tend to run the ball until they stop it and then pass. Ideally you'd want to run play action before they stop the run to keep them unbalanced.
However, Enos made up for it (in my mind, at least) with that counter toss to seal the game. That play call was fricking brilliant.
I also want to give credit to our players for not folding after going down 14-0 on the road. That place was rocking after the KO return. We managed to come from behind, win a close game, and win on the road. And while you and I both know it's just Tennessee (and Botch Jones), our players don't know that. This was the kind of adversity that may pay off in another game this year.
Defense played extremely well this game. They didn't give up a lot on the ground and they got pressure on Dobbs, affecting his throws. They also kept their running and QB scrambling game in check most of the game. I still think we're too thin at LB to have real defensive success this year but we might be able to play "good enough" to win some games.
Enos made a lot of questionable calls this game. The most obvious was the fake FG. Our kicking game has been atrocious so I can see where he was coming from but I'd rather line up and run our offense on 4th than fake FG.
Hedlund's kicks are all too low. Even the first extra point I nearly shat myself because it barely cleared the line.
I think Enos needed to do a better job of staying balanced. We tend to run the ball until they stop it and then pass. Ideally you'd want to run play action before they stop the run to keep them unbalanced.
However, Enos made up for it (in my mind, at least) with that counter toss to seal the game. That play call was fricking brilliant.
I also want to give credit to our players for not folding after going down 14-0 on the road. That place was rocking after the KO return. We managed to come from behind, win a close game, and win on the road. And while you and I both know it's just Tennessee (and Botch Jones), our players don't know that. This was the kind of adversity that may pay off in another game this year.
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Posted on 10/4/15 at 10:12 am to dbeck
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Enos made a lot of questionable calls this game. The most obvious was the fake FG. Our kicking game has been atrocious so I can see where he was coming from but I'd rather line up and run our offense on 4th than fake FG.
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However, Enos made up for it (in my mind, at least) with that counter toss to seal the game. That play call was fricking brilliant.
Bielema called both of these.
Posted on 10/4/15 at 10:16 am to dbeck
Special teams blow arse almost universally
Fake FG was monumentally stupid
Enos' play calling seems to get somewhat predictable as games go on
Allen isn't exactly stellar
AC is a beast who is showing off he can carry a team. fricker runs hard
Still no Duwop involvement. I would pack my bags if I were him...he obvisouly pissed some coach off somehow
Hurd is a beast
BBs black hat looks stupid
D stepped up, especially in the 4th and especially vs the run. That said, if Dobbs was a competent passer UT could've won at the end
Fake FG was monumentally stupid
Enos' play calling seems to get somewhat predictable as games go on
Allen isn't exactly stellar
AC is a beast who is showing off he can carry a team. fricker runs hard
Still no Duwop involvement. I would pack my bags if I were him...he obvisouly pissed some coach off somehow
Hurd is a beast
BBs black hat looks stupid
D stepped up, especially in the 4th and especially vs the run. That said, if Dobbs was a competent passer UT could've won at the end
Posted on 10/4/15 at 10:18 am to dbeck
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Our kicking game has been atrocious
the wet field can be blamed for some of the bad special teams play last night
first kickoff return two of our players slipped and the blocked field goal was low because of the hold being slippery. the faked field goal wasn't a bad call, tennessee just left a guy in the flats that had been blitzing hard inside every time before. might have been better to just go for it with the offense, but the fake field goal should have worked based upon the data the coaches had up to that point.
Posted on 10/4/15 at 10:22 am to Porker Face
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Special teams blow arse almost universally
Fake FG was monumentally stupid
not really. our special teams have been pretty solid up until last night. several solid punt returns stand out over our last few games.
the only thing that changed last night was the wet field, which affected numerous things on the field not named special teams.
Posted on 10/4/15 at 10:24 am to hawgfaninc
The injuries have to hurt special teams as well, we are running out of guys to stick in there. Special teams are depth for the most part, so it makes sense we will struggle in coverage teams
Posted on 10/4/15 at 10:26 am to dbeck
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I also want to give credit to our players for not folding after going down 14-0 on the road. That place was rocking after the KO return. We managed to come from behind, win a close game, and win on the road.
the coaches get the lions share of the credit for this
eta just like they would have if we had lost
This post was edited on 10/4/15 at 10:29 am
Posted on 10/4/15 at 10:27 am to lefty08
Yeah, I feel I have a pretty good grasp of the roster, and yet I saw two guys on ST's last night that I had no clue at all who they were. With all of the injuries, we are definitely scraping the bottom of the barrel for bodies to roll out there.
Posted on 10/4/15 at 10:39 am to hawgfaninc
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the faked field goal wasn't a bad call, tennessee just left a guy in the flats that had been blitzing hard inside every time before. might have been better to just go for it with the offense, but the fake field goal should have worked based upon the data the coaches had up to that point.
No, it wasn't a bad call. It was TERRIBLE.
Arkansas averaged 5.5 yards per carry last night. You're essentially taking the ball out of AC3's hands and handing off to your kicker. Read that sentence again. You're taking the ball out of AC3's hands and handing off to your kicker. Bert wanted his kicker, who is slow, to take a direct snap and try and get the edge against an SEC defense and gain 4 yards. Its basically the Wildcat package, with no WRs along the edge to block.
Thats the stupid part, Part 1.
Stupid part, Part 2...A FG puts you up 7 points. A touchdown cannot beat you. Considering the field conditions and the amount of kicks Dan Skipper has blocked, there may also be a chance to block the PAT. If not, you are only tied. You do not lose the game with a TN TD. Also, considering the field conditions and how TN had played on offense the 2nd half, you try to get those 3 points. If he misses, TN has to drive the ball down the field, which they hadn't shown since the 1st qtr.
Its the same shite as last year. Bert tries to get too cute in vital part of games. I had blamed Chaney for the trick shite show last season. Its becoming more and more evident that it wasn't Chaney, it was Bert.
Posted on 10/4/15 at 10:59 am to TheCheshireHog
Personally I don't mind the fake FG at that point in the game in that situation.
It is being aggressive, trying to win instead of playing not to lose.
How many times have we seen LSU and Les Miles pull that off to win a game? It is a brilliant call when it works, receives way to much criticism when it doesn't, thanks hindsight.
I agree with the play call more when you examine 4th down situations and the olines inability to block/get a push in the run game, BA and the receivers inability to pick the yardage up through the air, some of the biggest bitch fests I see last week all hinged around the staff doing the same thing over and over (putting the game in BA's hands for example), so I'm not going to find fault in their willingness to explore other creative options to seal a victory.
It is being aggressive, trying to win instead of playing not to lose.
How many times have we seen LSU and Les Miles pull that off to win a game? It is a brilliant call when it works, receives way to much criticism when it doesn't, thanks hindsight.
I agree with the play call more when you examine 4th down situations and the olines inability to block/get a push in the run game, BA and the receivers inability to pick the yardage up through the air, some of the biggest bitch fests I see last week all hinged around the staff doing the same thing over and over (putting the game in BA's hands for example), so I'm not going to find fault in their willingness to explore other creative options to seal a victory.
Posted on 10/4/15 at 11:13 am to Hawgeye
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No, it wasn't a bad call. It was TERRIBLE.
well yea, since it didn't work.
but if we had got the first down or scored a touchdown with it, it would be called brilliant and a bold play call.
the field goal could have also been blocked again or something else could have gone wrong. which was a higher chance of happening than usual because of the wet field conditions. the fake field goal also showed we were there to win, not just play it safe. if we had played it safe, people would be griping that bert wasn't more aggressive and he didn't play to win
Posted on 10/4/15 at 11:14 am to DaleDenton
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Personally I don't mind the fake FG at that point in the game in that situation.
It is being aggressive, trying to win instead of playing not to lose.
How many times have we seen LSU and Les Miles pull that off to win a game? It is a brilliant call when it works, receives way to much criticism when it doesn't, thanks hindsight.
Posted on 10/4/15 at 11:20 am to hawgfaninc
Yeah, had we made a FG and Tennessee tied it up, I would have had 0 confidence in us winning in OT.
Posted on 10/4/15 at 11:43 am to DaleDenton
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I agree with the play call more when you examine 4th down situations and the olines inability to block/get a push in the run game, BA and the receivers inability to pick the yardage up through the air, some of the biggest bitch fests I see last week all hinged around the staff doing the same thing over and over (putting the game in BA's hands for example), so I'm not going to find fault in their willingness to explore other creative options to seal a victory.
True.
Posted on 10/4/15 at 11:58 am to SmackoverHawg
If you really wanted to run that trick play to get 4 yards.
Then trotting McFain out there isn't the way.
Do something exotic, show a super funky formation, put duwop out there as the FG kicker, have him go through all the motions as if he's going to kick, put Brandon Allen as the holder, or Austin, or Rafe... Rafe might be the best in this situation as he's got wheels too.
Maybe an option play to the left where the holder (Peavey) just takes off and catches the snap on the fly and the kicker (duwop) sprints to the edge giving us a read option look catching their kick block team with their pants down.
If we're gonna try trickery then it needs to be exotic and pure trickeration that could cause the opponent to burn a timeout in a panic.
There's a good football team in there somewhere, it just shouldn't take half a season for everyone else's attrition through injury to affect them bringing them down to our level.
Then trotting McFain out there isn't the way.
Do something exotic, show a super funky formation, put duwop out there as the FG kicker, have him go through all the motions as if he's going to kick, put Brandon Allen as the holder, or Austin, or Rafe... Rafe might be the best in this situation as he's got wheels too.
Maybe an option play to the left where the holder (Peavey) just takes off and catches the snap on the fly and the kicker (duwop) sprints to the edge giving us a read option look catching their kick block team with their pants down.
If we're gonna try trickery then it needs to be exotic and pure trickeration that could cause the opponent to burn a timeout in a panic.
There's a good football team in there somewhere, it just shouldn't take half a season for everyone else's attrition through injury to affect them bringing them down to our level.
Posted on 10/4/15 at 12:18 pm to dbeck
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Defense played extremely well this game.
Played better, but was greatly helped by a truly shitastic Tenner offense.
Posted on 10/4/15 at 12:21 pm to CtotheVrzrbck
It think it was brilliant and designed to fail. Bert knows our team. But apparently he knows Butch. If we kick and go up by seven, they not only have to score a touchdown, they have to make an extra point on a sloppy wet field. It also runs one more play that should take a little more time off than a kick to keep our infamous Still(not steel)Curtain defense off the field. Butch is the only coach in the business worse under pressure than Bert...BUT we didn't know that until after the fact. IF they scored the TD and the point after...OT. We lose that 100% of the time. Since we've never won an OT game under Bert, simply math tells us that our best chances are to win in regulation and avoid OT at all cost. We score a TD on that play or drive, it's over. We frick it up like we did and now it's all on them to frick up. It's one kinda pressure to tie up a game and go to OT for a maybe win. It's a whole 'nother, to be able to win that bitch in regulation. The theory being that a dumbass, conservative opponent with a choke arse QB will play more loose with a bigger deficit than with a smaller. They can blame the D and say "at best, it would've gone to OT...and we'd still have to make an extra point against 8 ft tall Dan "offsides" Skipper. But being down by just FOUR?!!!! Sphincter tone hit "pretty white boy's first night in prison" levels. Pretty much locked down a win. Motherfricking BRILLIANT!!!!!!
I think oftentimes fans don't understand all that goes into making ONE call. This proves to me more than anything else that Bert is playing chess while these other mf'ers are playing checkers.
Botched fake FG? You think WE screwed up? CHECKMATE MOTHERfrickERS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I think oftentimes fans don't understand all that goes into making ONE call. This proves to me more than anything else that Bert is playing chess while these other mf'ers are playing checkers.
Botched fake FG? You think WE screwed up? CHECKMATE MOTHERfrickERS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Posted on 10/4/15 at 12:38 pm to SmackoverHawg
I didn't mind the fake field goal either. We had already had one blocked, and the one before half should have been blocked. I really don't think BERT has much faith in the kicking game.
A few other takeaways from my seats in section A:
-BA had a pretty ineffective night. A couple incompletions were due to receivers slipping, some were thrown away, but he didn't seem to have the confidence that he has had in the first 4 games. One thing that did impress me was his ability to avoid the sack. Pass protection broke down quite a bit and he was able to get away. Even if it resulted in an incompletion, he still avoided the negative play. In fact, the only negative play I can think of last night was the last play of the game where he was trying to waste time.
-3 penalties and no turnovers. This was by far the cleanest game we have played this year. One of those penalties was an atrocious block in the back on the punt return in the 4th. I never knew you could block someone in the back who is running side by side with you with your hands in the air. Also, Tenn got away with multiple late hits. The refs lost control of the game for a while and players knew they could get away with cheap shots.
-RW3 breaking through is huge for the health of AC3. He was not going to hold up with the amount of carries he was getting, so its nice to have another back with a different running style so give him a break.
-We still are failing to get it done in the red zone in the 4th. We left at least 6 points on the board in the 4th, and should have scored a touchdown on one of those drives. That obviously can't continue. That 3rd down pitch was a genius call on our last drive. They were fully expecting a run up the middle and Bert knew it. Well done.
-I've never seen as much dejection from home fans as I did last night. Nobody talked shite, nobody said congrats, it was just pure silence. Also, fans are fed up with Butch Jones. They were booing him in the 2nd quarter when they were still up 3. That's not good.
Go Hogs.
A few other takeaways from my seats in section A:
-BA had a pretty ineffective night. A couple incompletions were due to receivers slipping, some were thrown away, but he didn't seem to have the confidence that he has had in the first 4 games. One thing that did impress me was his ability to avoid the sack. Pass protection broke down quite a bit and he was able to get away. Even if it resulted in an incompletion, he still avoided the negative play. In fact, the only negative play I can think of last night was the last play of the game where he was trying to waste time.
-3 penalties and no turnovers. This was by far the cleanest game we have played this year. One of those penalties was an atrocious block in the back on the punt return in the 4th. I never knew you could block someone in the back who is running side by side with you with your hands in the air. Also, Tenn got away with multiple late hits. The refs lost control of the game for a while and players knew they could get away with cheap shots.
-RW3 breaking through is huge for the health of AC3. He was not going to hold up with the amount of carries he was getting, so its nice to have another back with a different running style so give him a break.
-We still are failing to get it done in the red zone in the 4th. We left at least 6 points on the board in the 4th, and should have scored a touchdown on one of those drives. That obviously can't continue. That 3rd down pitch was a genius call on our last drive. They were fully expecting a run up the middle and Bert knew it. Well done.
-I've never seen as much dejection from home fans as I did last night. Nobody talked shite, nobody said congrats, it was just pure silence. Also, fans are fed up with Butch Jones. They were booing him in the 2nd quarter when they were still up 3. That's not good.
Go Hogs.
Posted on 10/4/15 at 1:22 pm to dbeck
Drew Morgan is the GOAT
Posted on 10/4/15 at 1:24 pm to LAHog124
Just another great from the feeder program Greenwood which has supplied more talent to the program in recent years than all of Central Arkansas combined.
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