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So Petrino lost to Kentucky
Posted on 11/26/16 at 3:16 pm
Posted on 11/26/16 at 3:16 pm
BMFP, arguably top 5 coach in college football, lost to lowly Kentucky. with his heisman QB, at home, lost to Kentucky. finishing the season at 9-3. two more wins than Arkansas with a weaker schedule.
let's say we fire bert right now. petrino is never coming back to Arkansas. but if bobby 'top 5 coach' petrino can only manage 9-3 with a heisman QB, what hope is there for finding a coach that can do better?
I'll hang up and listen
let's say we fire bert right now. petrino is never coming back to Arkansas. but if bobby 'top 5 coach' petrino can only manage 9-3 with a heisman QB, what hope is there for finding a coach that can do better?
I'll hang up and listen
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Posted on 11/26/16 at 3:23 pm to hawgfaninc
Is that you Bo?
Posted on 11/26/16 at 3:27 pm to hawgfaninc
Losing to Kentucky puts some spice on it (oh, how I love he lost)!!!
But we lost to Mizzou. I think I may try heroine.
But we lost to Mizzou. I think I may try heroine.
Posted on 11/26/16 at 3:27 pm to hawgfaninc
This doesn't make me feel better
Posted on 11/26/16 at 3:35 pm to BarkRuffalo
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This doesn't make me feel better
it's a cold dose of reality
there's only one Saban and that small fricker is the best college football has ever seen. the rest of us can only hope to string together enough 7, 8, 9, 10, 11 win seasons together to improve our prestige and raise our perceived ceiling. do that while building our program the right way is what it's all about.
Posted on 11/26/16 at 3:35 pm to hawgfaninc
Missouri is way worse than Kentucky and Kentucky is a lot better than they wore at the beginning of the season but I see your point. Louisville fans are probably melting about as hard as we are because they just lost to a 7 win Kentucky team where as we lost to a 4 win mizzou team. Shows different level of expectations
Posted on 11/26/16 at 3:36 pm to Porcine Human
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Is that you Bo?
I never listen to Bo, what I said was just common sense with a question mixed in.
is that what Bo's known for?
Posted on 11/26/16 at 4:04 pm to hawgfaninc
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BMFP, arguably top 5 coach in college football, lost to lowly Kentucky. with his heisman QB, at home, lost to Kentucky. finishing the season at 9-3. two more wins than Arkansas with a weaker schedule.
let's say we fire bert right now. petrino is never coming back to Arkansas. but if bobby 'top 5 coach' petrino can only manage 9-3 with a heisman QB, what hope is there for finding a coach that can do better?
I'll hang up and listen
Meh, the devil is in the details. Kentucky is better than Mizzou. Apart from Houston, Louisville wasn't blown out in any game this year, and even still, the Houston game was far less embarrassing for Louisville than the Auburn game was for us. Louisville has holes, but they aren't nearly as gaping as ours. For us, this isn't a matter of getting over the hump in a few games or the ball not bouncing our way. Each loss we had was decisive and showed HUGE weaknesses.
We've shown that as a program, we can get a top 5 coach to come here. So if Bert doesn't get it done, it's time to move on.
At this point, I'm done melting. Bert is sticking around because of his huge buyout, so to me, there is no point being in a continuous rage for three consecutive years. So I'm going to sit back with arms folded and wait him out. Hopefully he's smart enough to use this extra time to right the ship. If he hasn't fixed anything by the time his buyout amount drops, give him the boot. While it's going to be shitty to sit around and watch us suck, if he hasn't righted the ship by then, it means that he wasn't able to get it done in 6 years. That's VERY generous by Power 5 standards, and won't scare off any potential candidates.
Posted on 11/26/16 at 4:12 pm to DiafGtfo
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We've shown that as a program, we can get a top 5 coach to come here.
When did we do that?
If you're talking about Petrino, he's a great offensive coach, but top 5 overall - personally I don't think so.
And we lucked into him in the first place.
Posted on 11/26/16 at 4:14 pm to WonderWartHawg
well we are a top 20 program in the country just based off of how much we can pay facilities and the conference were in so we should be able to get a good coach.
Posted on 11/26/16 at 4:24 pm to WonderWartHawg
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When did we do that?
If you're talking about Petrino, he's a great offensive coach, but top 5 overall - personally I don't think so.
And we lucked into him in the first place.
You can quibble about the rankings. Fine, perhaps Petrino isn't a top 5 coach, but he's certainly in the top 15. I'd be happy with consistent top 15 finishes every year.
Posted on 11/26/16 at 4:24 pm to WonderWartHawg
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When did we do that?
If you're talking about Petrino, he's a great offensive coach, but top 5 overall - personally I don't think so.
And we lucked into him in the first place.
You can quibble about the rankings. Fine, perhaps Petrino isn't a top 5 coach, but he's certainly in the top 15. I'd be happy with consistent top 15 finishes every year.
Posted on 11/26/16 at 4:26 pm to Hawgnsincebirth55
We were right there with Petrino. He's only in his 3rd year there. They'll be back.
We haven't even come close to sniffing a chunky SEC CG fart while Fat frick has been here in 4 years.
Our recruiting class is a pile of dog shite too.
We haven't even come close to sniffing a chunky SEC CG fart while Fat frick has been here in 4 years.
Our recruiting class is a pile of dog shite too.
Posted on 11/26/16 at 4:30 pm to STLhog
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We were right there with Petrino. He's only in his 3rd year there. They'll be back.
He won 10 games in his third year here.
He didn't have a Strong defense and a weak schedule aiding in that win total either.
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We haven't even come close to sniffing a chunky SEC CG fart while Fat frick has been here in 4 years.
We were never close with Petrino either.
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Our recruiting class is a pile of dog shite too.
Its better than either class after Petrinos 10 or 11 win season.
Posted on 11/26/16 at 4:31 pm to hawgfaninc
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but if bobby 'top 5 coach' petrino can only manage 9-3 with a heisman QB, what hope is there for finding a coach that can do better?
This OP is just dumb, he's made a true freshman into a Heisman trophy contender. We lost to a pathetic team that had their 2nd best player suspended.
Posted on 11/26/16 at 4:33 pm to Pigfeet
Kentucky got boat raced by Southern Miss.
Posted on 11/26/16 at 4:34 pm to DaleDenton
and Mizzou got rekt by Middle Tennessee
Posted on 11/26/16 at 5:10 pm to DaleDenton
Well what's berts excuse this year because the sec has been Down this year more than it has been in the past decade. There's only gonna be 1 team that will have less than 4 losses and that's bama. I'm pretty sure Bobby faced a tougher sec than this year. Maybe not the past 2 years but this year there was no excuse. And you said petrino never sniffed a championship game. He was 1 win away in 2010 and 2011. You don't think that's sniffing it?
This post was edited on 11/26/16 at 5:13 pm
Posted on 11/26/16 at 5:14 pm to DaleDenton
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We were never close with Petrino either.
We weren't? 2010?
Posted on 11/26/16 at 5:33 pm to STLhog
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Herman is anything but proven, yet reading this board you would swear he's the next belichick when he's just as likely to be the next Rich Rod, Charlie Strong, Sumlin, Sarkesian, Kingsbury, etc. Hell jimbo lost 4 games at florida state back to back seasons before getting thins right and winning a title. Shocking as it may be to some of you, Saban lost 4 games including 1 to ULM his first year at Bama.
A lot more goes into a coaches success than just "hire this guy and you win and if you hire this guy you lose" ultimately we didnt execute vs florida and bama and it goes on the coach but i have confidence that with a full offseason to prepare coach O can change that. We've had some amazingly successful games against good A&M and Arkansas teams that prove hiring O isnt the end of the world
I hate to kinda stick up for the hire that lsu just made, but this guy kinda has a point. if we fired bert we'd be going through the same thing. trying to find a coach that can progress every year while building the program the right way while at the same time being a good fit for the school. lsu is taking a lot of heat for their hire and his background looks questionable at best, but he appears to be able to do all three of those things I listed.
coach O fits LSU. kinda like bert fits Arkansas. he was a pig farmer for petes sake
bert just needs to do better hiring assistants or adjusting those assistants styles
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