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Posted on 2/3/16 at 3:29 pm
Posted by Pigfeet
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Posted on 2/3/16 at 3:29 pm
a fresh pear slice in a jar of Apple shine is really good folks.

Edit: Forgot about 1 mint leaf















Just sayn'
This post was edited on 2/3/16 at 3:30 pm
Posted by Hogwarts
Arkansas, USA
Member since Sep 2015
18038 posts
Posted on 2/3/16 at 3:44 pm to
Arkansas has never been top notch in recruiting. We got some good talent on both sides of the ball with this class. If Bert is happy, I am happy
Posted by Person of interest
The Hill
Member since Jan 2014
1786 posts
Posted on 2/3/16 at 4:03 pm to
I need a beer and a cigarette, after the long unsatisfying frick that today was.
Posted by ocelot4ark
Dallas, TX
Member since Oct 2009
12458 posts
Posted on 2/3/16 at 4:03 pm to
quote:

Arkansas has never been top notch in recruiting


Which is why we don't compete for SEC championships. Obviously, you can be happy with where we are (I'm mostly bummed about only signing 19 or 20 kids and depth issues), but just don't expect (barring unprecedented success) a reversal of the trend.
Posted by ocelot4ark
Dallas, TX
Member since Oct 2009
12458 posts
Posted on 2/3/16 at 4:03 pm to
cali
Posted by TejasPete
Member since Dec 2013
1425 posts
Posted on 2/3/16 at 4:14 pm to
On the bright side we get to see in person our basketball recruiting failures when Kevaughn Allen plays tonight.
Posted by Hogwarts
Arkansas, USA
Member since Sep 2015
18038 posts
Posted on 2/3/16 at 4:16 pm to
quote:

Obviously, you can be happy with where we are


When I think about it, it ticks me off especially when you see programs like Ole Miss killing it in recruiting. We have never been a recruiting juggernaut for reasons that I cant explain.
Posted by oklahogjr
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Posted on 2/3/16 at 5:27 pm to
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On the bright side we get to see in person our basketball recruiting failures when Kevaughn Allen plays tonight.



no matter how bad bert fricked up no way in hell this basketball team is going to outshine our football team.
Posted by Kilgore Snout
Ilium, NY
Member since Jul 2012
844 posts
Posted on 2/3/16 at 5:35 pm to
I think the reasons are pretty easy. Look at demographics between Mississippi and Arkansas.

Comparable population size:
Mississippi: 2,992,333
Arkansas: 2,978,204

Racial make up:
Mississippi: 37.5% black => 1,122,125 black population
Arkansas: 15.6% black => 464,599 black population


MIssissippi has 10 ESPN Top 300 football recruits in 2016, 6 signed with Ole Miss.
Arkansas has 2 ESPN Top 300 football recruits in 2016, both signed with Arkansas


When you're talking "recruiting rankings", just a couple of kids can swing the "final ranking" wildly. If you have 8 more "Top 300 and can convince half to stay, you'll probably finish 10-20 places higher than the state school that has only 2 in the top 300.



Edit: And before this sounds racist since I mentioned race, all 12 players mentioned (10 from MS, 2 from AR) in the Top 300 were black. A large percentage of the Top 300 was black. Far higher than the average population size of the United States. So I think it's a fair point of logic to say "If the United States is 13% black, but 90%+ of the Top 300 recruits are black, then it's fair to look at racial demographics when determining recruiting hot beds"
This post was edited on 2/3/16 at 5:38 pm
Posted by Pigfeet
Ark Mods are Fascists
Member since Mar 2010
19783 posts
Posted on 2/3/16 at 6:45 pm to
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Kilgore Snout



all of that stuff you posted sounds good for athletics, but bad for athletics

#FreeCtotheVrzrbck
Posted by Kilgore Snout
Ilium, NY
Member since Jul 2012
844 posts
Posted on 2/3/16 at 7:31 pm to
Perhaps.

Percentage wise, we're performing at a similar level in recruiting relative to in-state demographics. We're both pulling the same out of state talent levels, we may even have the edge.

It's harder to make recruits leave their home state and possibly the team they grew up watching and rooting for than couch sitters like us believe.
Posted by Pigfeet
Ark Mods are Fascists
Member since Mar 2010
19783 posts
Posted on 2/3/16 at 8:24 pm to
Too much shine, I'm out.



looking forward to NSD 2017
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