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NY Times article on an additional space in Bentonville for Crystal Bridges art

Posted on 3/29/16 at 5:05 pm
Posted by wmr
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Posted on 3/29/16 at 5:05 pm
I wish I had bought real estate in downtown Bentonville 10 years ago.

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It is expected to open in 2018, Crystal Bridges officials said, and the location, in downtown Bentonville, would not only provide a place to show more contemporary art but would also continue a transformation of the small city and the surrounding region into a cultural alternative to cities like New York and Los Angeles.


That's right, NWA is becoming a high culture alternative to cities like NY and LA.

Posted by Hog on the Hill
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Posted on 3/29/16 at 5:09 pm to
Haha that's wishful thinking, but what Bentonville is building is certainly impressive. Crystal Bridges is top notch and would easily surpass some respected museums here in NYC if it suddenly transported up here.
Posted by wmr
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Posted on 3/29/16 at 5:13 pm to


Well, I think they meant a place besides NY and LA where you can experience high culture.

I agree that Crystal Bridges outclasses very many "major" art museums in the nation already. It isn't even 5 years old at this point.

This post was edited on 3/29/16 at 5:13 pm
Posted by CtotheVrzrbck
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Posted on 3/29/16 at 5:15 pm to
NWA is a faux art community.

Springfield actually has multiple galleries and a thriving art market.

NWA not so much.

I'm all for progress and having options but there's some bad art being lauded in NWA. Critical thinking is giving way to keeping the Walton teet producing.
Posted by wmr
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Posted on 3/29/16 at 5:51 pm to
quote:

NWA is a faux art community. Springfield actually has multiple galleries and a thriving art market. NWA not so much.


Fayetteville has several 'real' art galleries and thriving visual arts community.

I'll put them up against whatever SGF has.

"NWA" already had that prior to the Walton Art Bomb going off.
Posted by wmr
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Posted on 3/29/16 at 5:57 pm to
Posted by WonderWartHawg
Member since Dec 2010
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Posted on 3/29/16 at 6:40 pm to
That's a shame. All the people and buildings are ruining what was NWA's strong point - the natural beauty.

"They tore down paradise and put up a parking lot."
Posted by I Ham That I Ham
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Posted on 3/29/16 at 7:03 pm to
quote:

That's a shame. All the people and buildings are ruining what was NWA's strong point - the natural beauty.



Transforming a Kraft plant into an art attraction won't ruin any natural beauty
Posted by hogfly
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Member since May 2014
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Posted on 3/29/16 at 7:14 pm to
quote:

That's a shame. All the people and buildings are ruining what was NWA's strong point - the natural beauty.

"They tore down paradise and put up a parking lot."



Yes. Goodness. That paradise known as the abandoned Kraft Plant.
Posted by hogfly
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Posted on 3/29/16 at 7:17 pm to
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Posted by hogfly
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Posted on 3/29/16 at 7:19 pm to
quote:

NWA is a faux art community.

Springfield actually has multiple galleries and a thriving art market.

NWA not so much.

I'm all for progress and having options but there's some bad art being lauded in NWA. Critical thinking is giving way to keeping the Walton teet producing.



I agree and disagree with you. It's definitely "Field of Dreams" in Bentonville at the moment with regards to art. That being said, the scene is starting to develop, and there's undeniable attractions being built. I can definitely see the neighbors to the south, especially Rogers and Springdale with lower costs of living, having an organic upswelling of a creative class.

IN all honesty, I'm pretty impressed with Fort Smith lately. It has a lot of the great markers of a good creative class:

Powerful and generous patrons promoting the arts really low real estate costs, plenty of downtown area where a person can settle cheaply. tons of cultural diversity.
Posted by wmr
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Posted on 3/29/16 at 9:45 pm to
The arts community here is healthy, even without the Waltons. Of course, they've helped it along immensely, but that's the case for every city that has ever had an art museum or a performing arts center funded by philanthropy.

Fayetteville is about to get a new building for its organic, local, top notch theater company, too.

Posted by CtotheVrzrbck
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Posted on 3/29/16 at 10:12 pm to
I'm not interested in tax funded "galleries" like Fayetteville Underground or Jane Garrison campus paintings.

Facts are that there are more frame shops than art galleries in NWA.

I'm talking about a legitimate market. I don't count Eureka Springs either as it's pretty much it's own thing over there.

Fort Fresh is lapping NWA in the art category. I know Fayetteville just released funds for murals, but get the Mountain Inn eyesore together and fill in that lot that was cleared for that condo project before slapping some paint on some shitty buildings and calling it culture or whatever.
Posted by wmr
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Posted on 3/29/16 at 10:38 pm to
quote:

I'm not interested in tax funded "galleries" like Fayetteville Underground or Jane Garrison campus paintings. Facts are that there are more frame shops than art galleries in NWA. I'm talking about a legitimate market. I don't count Eureka Springs either as it's pretty much it's own thing over there. Fort Fresh is lapping NWA in the art category.


Most of this is bullshite. Not sure if you just haven't spent much time in NWA or what. Fort Smith had a mural festival last year. It was cool, but totally out of character for the area. That's nothing compared to the visual art community that exists and has existed in Fayetteville for decades.

There are more "frame shops" than art galleries in pretty much every city in America, fyi.

If all you know about Fayetteville "art" is Jane Garrison prints, then, yeah, you don't know dick about it.
Posted by CtotheVrzrbck
WeWaCo
Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 3/29/16 at 10:48 pm to
ummmm Dana Idlet's painting tree rings on slices of felled trees isn't anything to crow about either.

U. of A's fine arts program is a glorified summer camp. I've seen some talented people come out of there but I've see way more crap than anything that could win a juried show or find it's way into a Sotheby's auction and a Sotheby's auction has a lot of bullshite too.

There's a real chance to stake a flag here I just think people will miss the window with a quantity over quality mindset. By the time the community gets educated it's usually a bit too little too late.

If you have suggestions for me to check out I'm more than willing to publicize some bad arse artists.
Posted by wmr
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Member since Mar 2009
32518 posts
Posted on 3/29/16 at 10:50 pm to
As for the Underground being "govt funded", well, yeah most arts collectives are in one way or another. Ever heard of the NEA? Or MacArthur Fellows/grants?

For something like the Underground to exist, you first have to have artists to support with it. Being a painter doesn't generally pay the bills for anybody. You aren't "interested" in it because I just linked you to a page showcasing dozens of very talented local visual artists you'd never even heard of because you don't know much about Fayetteville.

Ever heard of the Little Craft Show? You probably haven't. It is a huge event of local artists and makers, selling their goods twice per year. Every type of visual art you can imagine is featured there. It is one of the premier events of its kind in the nation.
Posted by wmr
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Member since Mar 2009
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Posted on 3/29/16 at 11:01 pm to
I don't have any idea what you consider to be bad arse art.

Look up William Mayes Flanagan.

Hank Kaminsky

Joelle

Nick Shoulders

Matt Miller

Those are just a few I know their work, just off the top of my head.

I think several of the artists at Heartwood are heartbreakingly talented.

Posted by CtotheVrzrbck
WeWaCo
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Posted on 3/29/16 at 11:22 pm to
Haven't checked your links out yet. Will do eventually
Posted by dbeck
Member since Nov 2014
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Posted on 3/30/16 at 5:16 am to
The art scene here in Fort Smith sucks arse compared to NWA. It's not even close.

The only thing that hasn't sucked is the murals.
Posted by wmr
North of Dickson, South of Herman's
Member since Mar 2009
32518 posts
Posted on 3/30/16 at 8:23 am to
Sorry to get up in your e-shite defending the local art scene.

It is quite good, in my opinion, and I'm not just being a Fayetteville homer. I took offense to you characterizing it as byproduct of Waltons only.

I see the U of A investing in the art dept, with the new gallery space south of MLK. I'd like to see a giant Walton grant to the Fine Arts dept. The facilities are shite.
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