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re: NWA Tea Party POS Sen. Bart Hester
Posted on 4/18/16 at 1:00 pm to Porker Face
Posted on 4/18/16 at 1:00 pm to Porker Face
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Understanding procedure is "establishment".
Its a farce, just so politicians can say to their Republican constituents that they voted against expansion, but it actually expands it.
Politicians do this, because the voting base is so uneducated and bite on their sound bites.
So yes, understanding procedure is establishment, just more of the same from the GOP and Dems. Procedures are used to accomplish precisely the opposite of their advertised goals, this behavior fails to meet fundamental ethical standards of public service.
This post was edited on 4/18/16 at 1:07 pm
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Posted on 4/18/16 at 1:02 pm to PygmalionEffect
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Obamacare part 2 needs to be capped. What do you even mean by this?
enrollment cap
Posted on 4/18/16 at 1:07 pm to Pigfeet
So the only way you can be a good "outsider" politician is by not understanding procedure
Posted on 4/18/16 at 1:11 pm to Porker Face
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So the only way you can be a good "outsider" politician is by not understanding procedure
Try harder, kid.
False dichotomy
Posted on 4/18/16 at 2:43 pm to beebefootballfan
Lots of tax and spenders here, I see. You folks do realize that Arkansas routinely falls in the top 10 for taxes in the US right? What do we get for paying the same or more by percentage as Oregon, Illinois, and Massachusetts?
Some of you kill me. All someone has to do is put out a chicken little story about how they are going to have to adopt draconian policies if any cuts get through, and you guys are ready to cede some more of your freedom and money. Hook, line, sinker.
Next time your wife tells you money is tight, try buying cheaper beer, pack your lunch, and put off that vacation, before you trade your car for a bicycle and turn your daughter out.
Some of you kill me. All someone has to do is put out a chicken little story about how they are going to have to adopt draconian policies if any cuts get through, and you guys are ready to cede some more of your freedom and money. Hook, line, sinker.
Next time your wife tells you money is tight, try buying cheaper beer, pack your lunch, and put off that vacation, before you trade your car for a bicycle and turn your daughter out.
Posted on 4/18/16 at 2:59 pm to troyt37
You sir are obviously a man who is entirely reasonable and not prone to hyperbole at all.
Posted on 4/18/16 at 3:12 pm to Pigfeet
Procedure is procedure. It's an arbitrary bright line agreed upon to enable things get done
Only the whiniest little bitches complain when people do things they don't like but are perfectly within the rules
Toughen up. You sound like a overly sensitive petulant kid. Someone did something entirely within the rules that you don't like. Stop the presses. Normally it's news when people break rules. Pigfeet wants us to get outraged over people who follow rules. Maybe you need a safe space away from politics if doing things entirely within the rules rustled your jimmies
Only the whiniest little bitches complain when people do things they don't like but are perfectly within the rules
Toughen up. You sound like a overly sensitive petulant kid. Someone did something entirely within the rules that you don't like. Stop the presses. Normally it's news when people break rules. Pigfeet wants us to get outraged over people who follow rules. Maybe you need a safe space away from politics if doing things entirely within the rules rustled your jimmies
Posted on 4/18/16 at 3:44 pm to Killean
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You sir are obviously a man who is entirely reasonable and not prone to hyperbole at all.
Well, I'm not the one birthing a calf because some government agency has declared they cannot do with less. Does it ever occur to folks that this means that by definition this means that THEY will always be the ones doing with less?
I guess the good thing is, we'll know when it's really important. They will tell us they have to shut down football in Fayetteville if the cuts go through.
Posted on 4/18/16 at 5:52 pm to Porker Face
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Only the whiniest little bitches complain when people do things they don't like but are perfectly within the rules
Toughen up.
and yet, you are in here whining about the weasel procedure getting shut.. the... frick... down.
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Toughen up. You sound like a overly sensitive petulant kid. Someone did something entirely within the rules that you don't like. Stop the presses. Normally it's news when people break rules. Pigfeet wants us to get outraged over people who follow rules. Maybe you need a safe space away from politics if doing things entirely within the rules rustled your jimmies
You sound worked up
Posted on 4/18/16 at 5:53 pm to troyt37
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chicken little story
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draconian policies
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cede some more of your freedom and money
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Hook, line, sinker.
BOSS
Posted on 4/18/16 at 7:00 pm to Pigfeet
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Senators Alan Clark of Lonsdale, Bart Hester of Cave Springs, Terry Rice of Waldron, Scott Flippo of Bull Shoals, Blake Johnson of Corning, Gary Stubblefield of Branch and other members of the Senate and House of representatives who oppose the Arkansas Works expansion of Medicaid will hold a press conference at 8:30 a.m. Tuesday, April 19, in the Old Supreme Court Room of the state Capitol to discuss their proposed compromise
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Senators Alan Clark, Bart Hester, Terry Rice, Scott Flippo, Blake Johnson, and Gary Stubblefield will present their latest proposal in a press conference tomorrow morning. Two of those six have already agreed to surrender and go along with the governor's line-item-veto plan to continue the Medicaid expansion. All indications are that those two (Hester and Johnson) as well as one more are still on board with the line-item-veto scheme regardless of this presser tomorrow.
Clark declined to provide any details at all on the proposal but said that he thought that I might be surprised. "It will be a compromise proposal and it will show which side are actually the extremists," Clark told me. "And [it will show] whether this is about the poor and hospitals or about money and specials interests."
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For someone like Bart Hester, who plans to surrender, this will allow him to argue that he did everything to stop the Medicaid expansion (including offering compromises!) but was thwarted by the governor. Hester and co., in other words, may try to pin all the blame on the governor for continuing the Medicaid expansion.
From the liberal rag, Arkansas Times
Asa and the Dems shove it down the 10's throat and the Arkansans.
Posted on 4/19/16 at 6:50 am to Pigfeet
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WHAT HAPPENS IF MEDICAID EXPANSION IS DEFUNDED
There is now a reasonable possibility that Arkansas will defund Medicaid
expansion. Dire predictions are being made about what happens then, just as there
are dire predictions about any political outcome some people do not want. In
reality, the negative consequences of ending Medicaid expansion are almost
certainly vastly overstated.
Consider Tennessee, which disenrolled 200,000 residents from Medicaid in
2005 after budget cuts. In the aftermath, 63% of these former recipients – about
125,000 people – increased their employment, meaning they (for instance) became
employed or increased the number of hours they worked. Job-search behavior
increased and disability applications fell. Perhaps most importantly, nine out of ten
of these 125,000 disenrolled recipients obtained employer-sponsored health
insurance.
Posted on 4/19/16 at 7:13 am to Pigfeet
So fund ARKids and foster care, and disability helps and kick the others to the curb. Bart is just political grandstanding like a tea party idiot who can't provide any other options
Posted on 4/19/16 at 9:02 am to Pigfeet
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and yet, you are in here whining about the weasel procedure getting shut.. the... frick... down.
Wrong. I'm don't have a problem with the vote.
I have a feeling the line item veto idea will pass on another vote, possibly today
Bart himself may even give in. From what I hear, his wife even thinks he needs to give in
This post was edited on 4/19/16 at 9:03 am
Posted on 4/19/16 at 10:43 am to Pigfeet
For everyone of these
I can find one of these.
LINK
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WHAT HAPPENS IF MEDICAID EXPANSION IS DEFUNDED
There is now a reasonable possibility that Arkansas will defund Medicaid
expansion. Dire predictions are being made about what happens then, just as there
are dire predictions about any political outcome some people do not want. In
reality, the negative consequences of ending Medicaid expansion are almost
certainly vastly overstated.
Consider Tennessee, which disenrolled 200,000 residents from Medicaid in
2005 after budget cuts. In the aftermath, 63% of these former recipients – about
125,000 people – increased their employment, meaning they (for instance) became
employed or increased the number of hours they worked. Job-search behavior
increased and disability applications fell. Perhaps most importantly, nine out of ten
of these 125,000 disenrolled recipients obtained employer-sponsored health
insurance.
I can find one of these.
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77% of Rural Hospital Closures Have Occurred in States That Have Not Expanded Medicaid
LINK
Posted on 4/23/16 at 6:06 am to beebefootballfan
Typical liberal mo money whiner bringing this shite into a SPORTS board
Posted on 4/23/16 at 10:43 am to gthog61
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Typical liberal mo money whiner bringing this shite into a SPORTS board
No joke, can we get this shite out of here? I mean I know you are all experts on how other people's money can best be spent but there is a board for this.
Posted on 4/23/16 at 3:32 pm to The Sultan of Swine
There are also other threads for you to click on
Yall are a bunch of sensitive bitches. Grow a pair, or just go to your safe space and leave the rest of us alone
Yall are a bunch of sensitive bitches. Grow a pair, or just go to your safe space and leave the rest of us alone
This post was edited on 4/23/16 at 3:34 pm
Posted on 4/23/16 at 4:25 pm to Porker Face
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leave the rest of us alone
Will do, as soon as you liberals build your own communes to care for the young and elderly and leave the rest of us alone, instead of attacking anyone who doesn't agree with your nanny-state programs.
What's more invasive: some of us commenting that this topic doesn't belong on a sports board? Or you fricks lobbying the government to literally take money from other people to do what you arbitrarily deem as the right thing to do?
Take your own advice.
Posted on 4/23/16 at 4:28 pm to The Sultan of Swine
This is a message board, to discuss things. Sorry if that discussion offends the weak of heart (or mind)
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